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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#5141
i'm kind of sick of people complaining about NA teams being substandard and suggesting what they should do to get better

when i see teams doing poorly, it inspires me to make my own team and compete instead of complaining on the internet about why another team sucks and armchairing it up.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 30 2012 19:22 GMT
#5142
On December 01 2012 04:17 HeroHenry wrote:
How do I land a Malzahar Q. I can't land one for the life of me unless they stand still.


Skill shots, and abilities in general, are ridiculously easy to predict when your opponent always casts them from maximum range. Malzahar's Q is simply the best example of this since it's so easy to just take one step back to dodge. Try to mix it up a bit if it isn't going to kill you.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 30 2012 19:29 GMT
#5143
Hotshot is like....zergbong.
Everyone knows his name but only because he sucks so much and yet is still a "pro" player. I guess hotshot did revolutionize the benching meme. That's kind of boxer-like....revolutionizing things and all.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
November 30 2012 19:42 GMT
#5144
On December 01 2012 04:20 kainzero wrote:
i'm kind of sick of people complaining about NA teams being substandard and suggesting what they should do to get better

when i see teams doing poorly, it inspires me to make my own team and compete instead of complaining on the internet about why another team sucks and armchairing it up.


Not that I'm a big fan of the usual NA bashing, but I can't say I don't understand it. It's really disappointing to have the team(s) that you've been rooting for and that represent your region lose because the other teams are just straight-up trying harder.
:3
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
November 30 2012 19:59 GMT
#5145
Justin Pobeiber
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 30 2012 20:00 GMT
#5146
On December 01 2012 04:20 kainzero wrote:
i'm kind of sick of people complaining about NA teams being substandard and suggesting what they should do to get better

when i see teams doing poorly, it inspires me to make my own team and compete instead of complaining on the internet about why another team sucks and armchairing it up.

You don't have to be a professional player to realize that a professional player is worse than another

People do take armchair coaching too far a lot of the time but for 99.9% of people that wish NA had a more competitive scene, getting good enough to form their own team is nowhere near a viable option. When someone says "oh man star wars episode 2 absolutely sucked" you don't respond with "why don't you make your own movie then"
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 20:15 GMT
#5147
pretty sure most of us are complaining precisely because we are frustrated that our ''idols'' aren't taking this game as seriously and are soon going to be overrun by faceless, hard working koreans who we honestly don't give a crap about.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 30 2012 20:21 GMT
#5148
On December 01 2012 05:00 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:20 kainzero wrote:
i'm kind of sick of people complaining about NA teams being substandard and suggesting what they should do to get better

when i see teams doing poorly, it inspires me to make my own team and compete instead of complaining on the internet about why another team sucks and armchairing it up.

You don't have to be a professional player to realize that a professional player is worse than another

People do take armchair coaching too far a lot of the time but for 99.9% of people that wish NA had a more competitive scene, getting good enough to form their own team is nowhere near a viable option. When someone says "oh man star wars episode 2 absolutely sucked" you don't respond with "why don't you make your own movie then"

atleast it had that really cool battle scene
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 30 2012 20:27 GMT
#5149
On December 01 2012 05:21 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 05:00 thenexusp wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:20 kainzero wrote:
i'm kind of sick of people complaining about NA teams being substandard and suggesting what they should do to get better

when i see teams doing poorly, it inspires me to make my own team and compete instead of complaining on the internet about why another team sucks and armchairing it up.

You don't have to be a professional player to realize that a professional player is worse than another

People do take armchair coaching too far a lot of the time but for 99.9% of people that wish NA had a more competitive scene, getting good enough to form their own team is nowhere near a viable option. When someone says "oh man star wars episode 2 absolutely sucked" you don't respond with "why don't you make your own movie then"

atleast it had that really cool battle scene


Do you mean 500 jedi who can cut through droids like butter, when in episode 1 we were shown just how useless the droids are against jedi? Or do you mean the completely expendable droids vs the completely expendable clone troopers, both of which are shown to be mass produced so we feel nothing for their loss?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
November 30 2012 20:28 GMT
#5150
On December 01 2012 04:20 kainzero wrote:
i'm kind of sick of people complaining about NA teams being substandard and suggesting what they should do to get better

when i see teams doing poorly, it inspires me to make my own team and compete instead of complaining on the internet about why another team sucks and armchairing it up.


I see you must have football basketball lol dota baseball teams.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 20:29 GMT
#5151
On December 01 2012 05:27 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 05:21 arb wrote:
On December 01 2012 05:00 thenexusp wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:20 kainzero wrote:
i'm kind of sick of people complaining about NA teams being substandard and suggesting what they should do to get better

when i see teams doing poorly, it inspires me to make my own team and compete instead of complaining on the internet about why another team sucks and armchairing it up.

You don't have to be a professional player to realize that a professional player is worse than another

People do take armchair coaching too far a lot of the time but for 99.9% of people that wish NA had a more competitive scene, getting good enough to form their own team is nowhere near a viable option. When someone says "oh man star wars episode 2 absolutely sucked" you don't respond with "why don't you make your own movie then"

atleast it had that really cool battle scene


Do you mean 500 jedi who can cut through droids like butter, when in episode 1 we were shown just how useless the droids are against jedi? Or do you mean the completely expendable droids vs the completely expendable clone troopers, both of which are shown to be mass produced so we feel nothing for their loss?

i guess he means either the dooku fight or the animal fight
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 30 2012 20:31 GMT
#5152
Don't forget the jango fett vs obi wan fight!
3.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2012 20:34 GMT
#5153
On December 01 2012 03:31 obesechicken13 wrote:
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On December 01 2012 03:17 SoulSever wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:40 TheYango wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:25 Sandster wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:14 Pooshlmer wrote:
I'm saying that people are deluding themselves into thinking that, for example, Lustboy is godlike just because he practices SO much harder than all the other supports.

....? that IS why he's so good. because he works so hard at it? he didn't just decide to play LoL one day and win a tournament. all genetics does for LoL it set you at a different starting level. your individual skill cap isn't the limiting factor in LoL.


I'd argue that genetics affects the *rate* as which you improve with practice. The best practice really really hard, and improves just a bit more than the really good people who practice really really hard.

But the overall level of LoL play isn't so high that is a limiting factor yet.

BW only really hit that point after like 7-8 years (at the point where you could say TBLS were dominating on the basis of their talent AND their practice). LoL isn't anywhere close to that yet.


The day we have anything comparable to TBLS is the day I'll have t find an easier game to feel good about

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 00:38 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
On March 10 2011 00:32 Krallin wrote:
Thanks a lot for that translation!

On a sidenote, could anyone tell me what TBLS means?

TBLS = Taekbangleessang

Taek = Bisu
Bang = Stork
Leessang = Jaedong/Flash

On topic: Thanks for the translation. Pretty cool interview. Looking forward to more hive tech ZvZs.

We have Froggen.

And hotshot is a mini boxer?

Absolutely laughable that you'd compare Froggen to TBLS.

On form, TBLS basically don't lose series games to anyone except each other. Froggen's nowhere near that good at AP given the significant number of world class APs at the moment that can all win or lose against each other. The only players you could even make an argument for having that level of mastery over their role are Weixiao on AD or Maknoon/Lilac on top lane.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 20:36 GMT
#5154
You still think maknoon is the best? And how does doublelift compare to weixiao?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 20:42:26
November 30 2012 20:41 GMT
#5155
On December 01 2012 05:36 OutlaW- wrote:
You still think maknoon is the best? And how does doublelift compare to weixiao?

Lilac is better, but Maknoon deserves a certain amount of credit for how he plays top lane in a way that directs the tempo of the game in a way unlike most other top laners.

Doublelift has flashy plays, but Weixiao's fundamentals are simply unmatched.

Go back and look at the way Weixiao lasthits and harasses in lane. He's never waiting for a lasthit. He's making use of every autoattack CD but he's still getting every lasthit, while getting off every autoattack virtually on CD (often on enemy champs). He doesn't wait for lasthits--he makes it seem like the lasthits are just coming to him.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 20:43:06
November 30 2012 20:42 GMT
#5156
On December 01 2012 04:29 BlackPaladin wrote:
Hotshot is like....zergbong.
Everyone knows his name but only because he sucks so much and yet is still a "pro" player. I guess hotshot did revolutionize the benching meme. That's kind of boxer-like....revolutionizing things and all.


So you're saying when they make a LoL2 Hotshot will jump ship immediately and dominate that scene for awhile before falling off.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#5157
I think i'm being retarded here but who does Lilac play for?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#5158
On December 01 2012 05:42 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:29 BlackPaladin wrote:
Hotshot is like....zergbong.
Everyone knows his name but only because he sucks so much and yet is still a "pro" player. I guess hotshot did revolutionize the benching meme. That's kind of boxer-like....revolutionizing things and all.


So you're saying when they make a LoL2 Hotshot will jump ship immediately and dominate that scene for awhile before falling off.


Probably, yeah. Hotshot has good enough mechanics to be able to be good in a new game similar to LoL. Afterall, hotshot really was top of the totem pole early on in LoL. It's when people begin to really learn the game and practice more that hotshot's natural talent fell off, and now he's mediocre at best for a pro player.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 30 2012 21:08 GMT
#5159
On December 01 2012 05:42 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:29 BlackPaladin wrote:
Hotshot is like....zergbong.
Everyone knows his name but only because he sucks so much and yet is still a "pro" player. I guess hotshot did revolutionize the benching meme. That's kind of boxer-like....revolutionizing things and all.


So you're saying when they make a LoL2 Hotshot will jump ship immediately and dominate that scene for awhile before falling off.


I get what you are trying to say because of the whole SC and SC2 but he was just plainly saying Hotshot was really good at the start of the game = got lots of fans now sucks
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 30 2012 21:19 GMT
#5160
On December 01 2012 05:41 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 05:36 OutlaW- wrote:
You still think maknoon is the best? And how does doublelift compare to weixiao?

Lilac is better, but Maknoon deserves a certain amount of credit for how he plays top lane in a way that directs the tempo of the game in a way unlike most other top laners.

Doublelift has flashy plays, but Weixiao's fundamentals are simply unmatched.

Go back and look at the way Weixiao lasthits and harasses in lane. He's never waiting for a lasthit. He's making use of every autoattack CD but he's still getting every lasthit, while getting off every autoattack virtually on CD (often on enemy champs). He doesn't wait for lasthits--he makes it seem like the lasthits are just coming to him.


It is utterly scary watching him in lane. It's hard to imagine someone being THAT much better than every other player in the role, when he's using "weak" laning champs and crushing lanes with them.
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