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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 10:29 GMT
#5101
You can do both. The new way to play lee jungle is E>W>Q anyway (chauster does it). W not only makes you tankier, but the shield increase is pretty huge as well. You have to note that jungle Lee doesn't get a lot of experience usually. By the time you're done maxing your second spell, ganks become quite a rarity, so you probably want to be maxing W for the shield increase which loses relevancy as time goes on, while the E slow is powerful even in the late late game. I think both is viable, though.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 30 2012 11:12 GMT
#5102
On November 30 2012 19:29 OutlaW- wrote:
You can do both. The new way to play lee jungle is E>W>Q anyway (chauster does it). W not only makes you tankier, but the shield increase is pretty huge as well. You have to note that jungle Lee doesn't get a lot of experience usually. By the time you're done maxing your second spell, ganks become quite a rarity, so you probably want to be maxing W for the shield increase which loses relevancy as time goes on, while the E slow is powerful even in the late late game. I think both is viable, though.


I will alternate points and get the best of both worlds!
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 30 2012 11:59 GMT
#5103
On November 30 2012 13:54 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 11:26 Sufficiency wrote:
That's her classic splash. She should also come with a skin, but that skin nor its splash are released on PBE yet.

Remember when they used to release champions with 2 extra skins? Cutbacks man! (Actually, it wouldn't entirely surprise me considering all the work going into the S3 changes... but I'll give you the odds this time)

They said sometime ago they were only releasing them with 1 skin now to ensure the skin has more quality than 2 shitty recolors.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
November 30 2012 12:30 GMT
#5104
On November 30 2012 20:59 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 13:54 Inschato wrote:
On November 30 2012 11:26 Sufficiency wrote:
That's her classic splash. She should also come with a skin, but that skin nor its splash are released on PBE yet.

Remember when they used to release champions with 2 extra skins? Cutbacks man! (Actually, it wouldn't entirely surprise me considering all the work going into the S3 changes... but I'll give you the odds this time)

They said sometime ago they were only releasing them with 1 skin now to ensure the skin has more quality than 2 shitty recolors.


This makes me sad. Old Soraka had two distinct skins (at least in splash), now Dryad is just a green original
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 30 2012 12:59 GMT
#5105
Regarding Rengar, is there any decent guide on the now standard Tanky+CDR build ? I would like to read a little bit about it since I don't really have time to experiment with it !
The legend of Darien lives on
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 30 2012 13:08 GMT
#5106
Is shen good or bad vs Darius?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 13:11 GMT
#5107
It's fine. Maxing shield is really strong in the laning phase, you can negate most of his Q damage while you force him to push the lane. You can then freeze and wait for your jungler to gank. Remember, taunt is pretty fucking OP for ganks. You can't beat him 1v1 I think but then again who can? Consider rushing 2 doran shields or sunfire cape.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 30 2012 14:15 GMT
#5108
watching PL play Syndra just validates my impression of her

He's actually really good at her, its impressive, but he still can't get shit done, damage is piddly, effective range is poor.

The worst part about syndra is that even if you land a ton of shit in a teamfight (which is ungodly hard), your damage will probably be spread all over 3-5 people because you just have to hit whoever is safe, so you can't pick off an actual important target quickly (you will NEVER get into ult range of a squishy), which is basically the role of the AP.

She basically plays like an AP AD carry, except you have to land really difficult skillshots in place of every auto attack, and her damage peaks in midgame and then does nothing. Also she has no escapes.

In reality I would never ever play her in a serious game. You would achieve better results just running Corki or Ezreal mid. If you wanted utility you could build frozen mallet on them and still do more damage than she does, plus be a million times more consistent.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
November 30 2012 15:18 GMT
#5109
Okay, so I took a break and let someone use my acc after the rankings change (was gold before). Then ended up silver cuz my friend got me pretty low. Now i'm playing with 1800 elo players and whenever they do something wrong, they blame the silver player. wtf??
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 30 2012 15:21 GMT
#5110
On December 01 2012 00:18 billy5000 wrote:
Okay, so I took a break and let someone use my acc after the rankings change (was gold before). Then ended up silver cuz my friend got me pretty low. Now i'm playing with 1800 elo players and whenever they do something wrong, they blame the silver player. wtf??



Seems like a QQ Thread post. =)
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romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
November 30 2012 15:43 GMT
#5111
On December 01 2012 00:18 billy5000 wrote:
Okay, so I took a break and let someone use my acc after the rankings change (was gold before). Then ended up silver cuz my friend got me pretty low. Now i'm playing with 1800 elo players and whenever they do something wrong, they blame the silver player. wtf??

People that rage like that are going to do it anyway, best you can do is just keep trying your best and staying positive/constructive
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 30 2012 15:53 GMT
#5112
On November 30 2012 15:12 OutlaW- wrote:
he was only really strong in soloq because people were a bit stupid and didnt know how to deal with him. riot jumped the wagon as always and completely killed him (though thats more the result of people like kat doing his job 3x better)

They lowered his AP ratios from 1 to .9, I would hardly say that's killing it, just reigning it in slightly As everyone has already said, AP Sion is all about his early game, .1 AP didn't make his late game that much stronger.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
November 30 2012 15:55 GMT
#5113
On December 01 2012 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:12 OutlaW- wrote:
he was only really strong in soloq because people were a bit stupid and didnt know how to deal with him. riot jumped the wagon as always and completely killed him (though thats more the result of people like kat doing his job 3x better)

They lowered his AP ratios from 1 to .9, I would hardly say that's killing it, just reigning it in slightly As everyone has already said, AP Sion is all about his early game, .1 AP didn't make his late game that much stronger.

He also has a couple of really hard counters wich dosen't make him a great pick
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 16:10 GMT
#5114
On December 01 2012 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:12 OutlaW- wrote:
he was only really strong in soloq because people were a bit stupid and didnt know how to deal with him. riot jumped the wagon as always and completely killed him (though thats more the result of people like kat doing his job 3x better)

They lowered his AP ratios from 1 to .9, I would hardly say that's killing it, just reigning it in slightly As everyone has already said, AP Sion is all about his early game, .1 AP didn't make his late game that much stronger.

thats the point. it was never that good, just people were bad and kept bitching about it. riot nerfed. 0 play now. they didnt realize that releasing new op champs nerfs every old fuck like sion
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2012 16:42 GMT
#5115
On December 01 2012 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:12 OutlaW- wrote:
he was only really strong in soloq because people were a bit stupid and didnt know how to deal with him. riot jumped the wagon as always and completely killed him (though thats more the result of people like kat doing his job 3x better)

They lowered his AP ratios from 1 to .9, I would hardly say that's killing it, just reigning it in slightly As everyone has already said, AP Sion is all about his early game, .1 AP didn't make his late game that much stronger.

You forgot about the nerfed stun duration.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 30 2012 16:42 GMT
#5116
If it gets super-super-late game though, AP sion can sell all his items and build AD
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 16:44 GMT
#5117
and get killed in one stun
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 30 2012 16:56 GMT
#5118
Point and click stun and a lot of free health ain't a bad combo, especially if you have a good initiate to follow up on. I think AD Sion needs maybe a bit of resists, but he's got a decent shield on a short-ish CD (even with no AP, 300 health with resists every 8 seconds is decent) and lots of lifsteal if he smacks something once or twice. He's not the tankiest champ, but he sure isn't the squishiest.
It's your boy Guzma!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 17:04 GMT
#5119
mostly it's hilarious healing 400 hp with every hit with that crazy attackspeed
it happens that the enemy team has no hard cc and thats the time to pick it
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 30 2012 17:15 GMT
#5120
On December 01 2012 01:42 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:12 OutlaW- wrote:
he was only really strong in soloq because people were a bit stupid and didnt know how to deal with him. riot jumped the wagon as always and completely killed him (though thats more the result of people like kat doing his job 3x better)

They lowered his AP ratios from 1 to .9, I would hardly say that's killing it, just reigning it in slightly As everyone has already said, AP Sion is all about his early game, .1 AP didn't make his late game that much stronger.

You forgot about the nerfed stun duration.

That was several months before the AP ratio nerfs according to the lol-patch history, from what I understand the AP ratio nerf and the release of better champs was the final nail in the coffin.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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