[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 260

On December 01 2012 10:17 obesechicken13 wrote:

After some consideration, I've realized that Kayle advice about waiting for her to run out of mana needs some clarification. By the time Kayle runs out of mana throwing Q's and E's any champion will already be dead. She runs out of mana burning it on W's and R's alongside the Q's. She regens fast enough that if her mana gets low she can still farm and harass with E.

Not only that but most Kayle players are aware of Kayle's mana problems. Of the ones that max Q, many build triforce (not that uncommon according to lolking) and they build the sheen component which gives some mana. You're relying on Kayles not running ghost, not having phage, not having a ward to place in the brush, maxing Q, and not building any mana. It's reminds me of that episode where Moe tells Homer to win boxing matches by taking punches until his opponent is too tired. You give all the initiative to your opponent.

If you want to make her run out of mana get her to use W's and R's and be sure you fight with her. A Kayle that maxes E will rarely run out of mana. She will push hard though.

Off topic. I had an epiphany about AP Yi. Everyone else probably already realized this, but Yi snowballs off kills. Assume there are 5 enemies bunched up, and AP Yi can only do damage through alpha strike. The 5 enemies have 300, 600, 900, 1200, and 1500 effective magic health respectively. If Yi does 300 damage he can kill all 5 of them. If Yi does 250 damage he can't kill any of them. That's why you have to prevent Yi from getting fed, so that he won't ge that 50 damage. I don't think there's a champion in the game that can deny AP Yi his farm but several that won't die to him while getting some of their own farm.

A similar thing can be said of Katarina. Katarina relies on resets to increase her damage. She does have great damage even without any resets, but saving a silence for Kat and healing her intended target has to be the way to play. Obviously there are differences between Kat and Yi. You want to break Kat's ult asap, and unlike Yi, she doesn't have a 300armor/mr 9001 heal that will refresh on kill anyways.