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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 25 2012 04:20 GMT
#3901
On November 25 2012 13:16 Requizen wrote:
I want to go back a few GDs to find people talking about how trash Ez is compared to every AD.


High skillcap.
People always building triforce on him even when behind.

yeah....
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 25 2012 04:21 GMT
#3902
On November 25 2012 13:16 Requizen wrote:
I want to go back a few GDs to find people talking about how trash Ez is compared to every AD.

Lets go back a few GD's to when he was nerfed and people were like, NO ONES GOING TO PLAY EZREAL HE'S SO BAD THIS IS WORST NERF SINCE HEART OF GOLD111!!!1
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 25 2012 04:26 GMT
#3903
On November 25 2012 13:21 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:16 Requizen wrote:
I want to go back a few GDs to find people talking about how trash Ez is compared to every AD.

Lets go back a few GD's to when he was nerfed and people were like, NO ONES GOING TO PLAY EZREAL HE'S SO BAD THIS IS WORST NERF SINCE HEART OF GOLD111!!!1

I think we said that in the last GD with the W nerf. Trist is seeing a lot of play in pro games now and she always seems very strong.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 25 2012 04:28 GMT
#3904
On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff.

Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that.


there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 25 2012 04:34 GMT
#3905
On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff.

Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that.


there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape

ezreal's is about 75% of corki's range which is just enough
most importantly it's A. instant, allowing more time for hitting, and B. it overrides shit like blitz hooks and if timed properly can E you even as you're stunned
In pro level play, valk has the big weakness of being interruptible, as some korean Lulu showed when he consistently stopped qtpie's valk with his ulti to win fights.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 25 2012 04:36 GMT
#3906
Meanwhile, Tristana has an escape that is purely based on only looking like an escape when it acts like a dash. *mutter mutter* I'll never forgive riot for the times I've had volibears flip'd me out of the sky because he can do that somehow. Freakin bears are jerks.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
November 25 2012 04:37 GMT
#3907
On November 25 2012 13:17 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff.


3 months of all AD's playing nothing but ez means AD's are pretty good at playing ez now and not much else.

EDIT: to be fair ez was trash until max W first was discovered to be OP. Then they buffed his Q to discourage W first... riot logic


This is simply not true. He was good even when maxing Q, people just didn't play him. Then that Taiwanese guy came and really popularized the shit out of him.

Anyways I remember posting that Ezreal would still be good after W nerf.
Retvrn to Forvms
Celestia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico376 Posts
November 25 2012 04:43 GMT
#3908
On November 25 2012 13:36 Parnage wrote:
Meanwhile, Tristana has an escape that is purely based on only looking like an escape when it acts like a dash. *mutter mutter* I'll never forgive riot for the times I've had volibears flip'd me out of the sky because he can do that somehow. Freakin bears are jerks.

Or Singed. If we were using Ezreal instead of Tristana in those scenarios... Yeah.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9824 Posts
November 25 2012 04:45 GMT
#3909
On November 25 2012 13:36 Parnage wrote:
Meanwhile, Tristana has an escape that is purely based on only looking like an escape when it acts like a dash. *mutter mutter* I'll never forgive riot for the times I've had volibears flip'd me out of the sky because he can do that somehow. Freakin bears are jerks.

getting blitz grabbed or snared from the side really makes you want to rage at the game sometimes

i don't play grasshopper but i can feel people's pain about that too
boomer hands
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 04:51:19
November 25 2012 04:51 GMT
#3910
It's not actually a dash. Dashes don't go over thick walls when the thick walls are facing you.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
November 25 2012 04:55 GMT
#3911
On November 25 2012 13:37 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:17 TheLink wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff.


3 months of all AD's playing nothing but ez means AD's are pretty good at playing ez now and not much else.

EDIT: to be fair ez was trash until max W first was discovered to be OP. Then they buffed his Q to discourage W first... riot logic


This is simply not true. He was good even when maxing Q, people just didn't play him. Then that Taiwanese guy came and really popularized the shit out of him.

Anyways I remember posting that Ezreal would still be good after W nerf.

This is not true, the reasons for Ez explosion is not about people sucked at him Graves was nerfed, Ez W was buffed, Q was buffed, Urgot was nerfed, Double support was nerfed. Graves and Urgot were just plain better carries than Ez in lane and mid game.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 25 2012 05:00 GMT
#3912
On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff.

Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that.


there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape

Valk is no where near Arcane shift.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 05:08:13
November 25 2012 05:01 GMT
#3913
http://clgaming.net/live/3-clg-bigfatjiji
exclusive shake (hazmat) footage about to happen
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 25 2012 05:17 GMT
#3914
On November 25 2012 14:01 OutlaW- wrote:
http://clgaming.net/live/3-clg-bigfatjiji
exclusive shake (hazmat) footage about to happen

exclusive 4v5 action.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 25 2012 05:21 GMT
#3915
go back 2 playing
also you dying when cho dc was your fault nice whining
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 05:31:07
November 25 2012 05:30 GMT
#3916
On November 25 2012 14:00 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff.

Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that.


there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape

Valk is no where near Arcane shift.


why
oh the other guy listed some reasons
does valk not override blitz hooks? because it works the exact same as ez e vs say, a taric stun
just goes farther
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 25 2012 05:33 GMT
#3917
On November 25 2012 14:21 OutlaW- wrote:
go back 2 playing
also you dying when cho dc was your fault nice whining

gtfo. I died to 3 yeti autoattacks. All he had to do was walk up and look at nunu to make him back off but he started to blue pill in front of my face with full hp.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
November 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#3918
On November 25 2012 14:30 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 14:00 arb wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff.

Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that.


there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape

Valk is no where near Arcane shift.


why
oh the other guy listed some reasons
does valk not override blitz hooks? because it works the exact same as ez e vs say, a taric stun
just goes farther


no the grab still grabs you and destroys all your hope that you could escape
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#3919
SHOULD HAVE NOTICED EARLIER lolz
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#3920
On November 25 2012 14:30 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 14:00 arb wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff.

Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that.


there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape

Valk is no where near Arcane shift.


why
oh the other guy listed some reasons
does valk not override blitz hooks? because it works the exact same as ez e vs say, a taric stun
just goes farther

Ezreal Arcane is a blink and as such is treated as an instant movement displacement. Therefore, like Kassadin's blink, the timing to interrupt it is extremely small (generally cast animation which is short). Corki Valk is a dash move and is treated as such. That makes it much easier to interrupt as he is a valid target during the entire cast animation (ie when he is moving) and can be interrupted mid-move although it's not as bad as Trist's jump.
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