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On November 25 2012 13:16 Requizen wrote: I want to go back a few GDs to find people talking about how trash Ez is compared to every AD.
High skillcap. People always building triforce on him even when behind.
yeah....
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On November 25 2012 13:16 Requizen wrote: I want to go back a few GDs to find people talking about how trash Ez is compared to every AD. Lets go back a few GD's to when he was nerfed and people were like, NO ONES GOING TO PLAY EZREAL HE'S SO BAD THIS IS WORST NERF SINCE HEART OF GOLD111!!!1
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On November 25 2012 13:21 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:16 Requizen wrote: I want to go back a few GDs to find people talking about how trash Ez is compared to every AD. Lets go back a few GD's to when he was nerfed and people were like, NO ONES GOING TO PLAY EZREAL HE'S SO BAD THIS IS WORST NERF SINCE HEART OF GOLD111!!!1 I think we said that in the last GD with the W nerf. Trist is seeing a lot of play in pro games now and she always seems very strong.
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On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote: One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that.
there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape
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On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote: One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that. there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape ezreal's is about 75% of corki's range which is just enough most importantly it's A. instant, allowing more time for hitting, and B. it overrides shit like blitz hooks and if timed properly can E you even as you're stunned In pro level play, valk has the big weakness of being interruptible, as some korean Lulu showed when he consistently stopped qtpie's valk with his ulti to win fights.
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Meanwhile, Tristana has an escape that is purely based on only looking like an escape when it acts like a dash. *mutter mutter* I'll never forgive riot for the times I've had volibears flip'd me out of the sky because he can do that somehow. Freakin bears are jerks.
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On November 25 2012 13:17 TheLink wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote: One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. 3 months of all AD's playing nothing but ez means AD's are pretty good at playing ez now and not much else. EDIT: to be fair ez was trash until max W first was discovered to be OP. Then they buffed his Q to discourage W first... riot logic
This is simply not true. He was good even when maxing Q, people just didn't play him. Then that Taiwanese guy came and really popularized the shit out of him.
Anyways I remember posting that Ezreal would still be good after W nerf.
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On November 25 2012 13:36 Parnage wrote: Meanwhile, Tristana has an escape that is purely based on only looking like an escape when it acts like a dash. *mutter mutter* I'll never forgive riot for the times I've had volibears flip'd me out of the sky because he can do that somehow. Freakin bears are jerks. Or Singed. If we were using Ezreal instead of Tristana in those scenarios... Yeah.
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On November 25 2012 13:36 Parnage wrote: Meanwhile, Tristana has an escape that is purely based on only looking like an escape when it acts like a dash. *mutter mutter* I'll never forgive riot for the times I've had volibears flip'd me out of the sky because he can do that somehow. Freakin bears are jerks. getting blitz grabbed or snared from the side really makes you want to rage at the game sometimes
i don't play grasshopper but i can feel people's pain about that too
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It's not actually a dash. Dashes don't go over thick walls when the thick walls are facing you.
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On November 25 2012 13:37 Chrispy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:17 TheLink wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote: One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. 3 months of all AD's playing nothing but ez means AD's are pretty good at playing ez now and not much else. EDIT: to be fair ez was trash until max W first was discovered to be OP. Then they buffed his Q to discourage W first... riot logic This is simply not true. He was good even when maxing Q, people just didn't play him. Then that Taiwanese guy came and really popularized the shit out of him. Anyways I remember posting that Ezreal would still be good after W nerf. This is not true, the reasons for Ez explosion is not about people sucked at him Graves was nerfed, Ez W was buffed, Q was buffed, Urgot was nerfed, Double support was nerfed. Graves and Urgot were just plain better carries than Ez in lane and mid game.
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On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote: One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that. there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape Valk is no where near Arcane shift.
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go back 2 playing also you dying when cho dc was your fault nice whining
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On November 25 2012 14:00 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote: One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that. there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape Valk is no where near Arcane shift.
why oh the other guy listed some reasons does valk not override blitz hooks? because it works the exact same as ez e vs say, a taric stun just goes farther
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On November 25 2012 14:21 OutlaW- wrote: go back 2 playing also you dying when cho dc was your fault nice whining gtfo. I died to 3 yeti autoattacks. All he had to do was walk up and look at nunu to make him back off but he started to blue pill in front of my face with full hp.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On November 25 2012 14:30 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 14:00 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote: One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that. there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape Valk is no where near Arcane shift. why oh the other guy listed some reasons does valk not override blitz hooks? because it works the exact same as ez e vs say, a taric stun just goes farther
no the grab still grabs you and destroys all your hope that you could escape
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SHOULD HAVE NOTICED EARLIER lolz
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On November 25 2012 14:30 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 14:00 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote: One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that. there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape Valk is no where near Arcane shift. why oh the other guy listed some reasons does valk not override blitz hooks? because it works the exact same as ez e vs say, a taric stun just goes farther Ezreal Arcane is a blink and as such is treated as an instant movement displacement. Therefore, like Kassadin's blink, the timing to interrupt it is extremely small (generally cast animation which is short). Corki Valk is a dash move and is treated as such. That makes it much easier to interrupt as he is a valid target during the entire cast animation (ie when he is moving) and can be interrupted mid-move although it's not as bad as Trist's jump.
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