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On November 25 2012 13:36 Parnage wrote:
Meanwhile, Tristana has an escape that is purely based on only looking like an escape when it acts like a dash. *mutter mutter* I'll never forgive riot for the times I've had volibears flip'd me out of the sky because he can do that somehow. Freakin bears are jerks.
Yo Trist can ult you backwards when she's in front of you mid jump. Das op no one else can do it.
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You can valk out of Blitz hook, but it requires extremely specific timing. Most of the time you'll just get reeled back in.
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Is there any way to tell if you have a ribbon other than champ select and the load screen?
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Ez E is 100% you press it you will get there.
Corki W is like if something sneezes you get stopped.
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On November 25 2012 13:51 obesechicken13 wrote:
It's not actually a dash. Dashes don't go over thick walls when the thick walls are facing you.
Malphite ulti?
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On November 25 2012 14:53 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:51 obesechicken13 wrote:
It's not actually a dash. Dashes don't go over thick walls when the thick walls are facing you. Malphite ulti?
Dashes can go through any wall, but unlike blinks they have to go completely through the wall (blinks only need to go halfway through the wall). That's basically why most dashes can't get through thick walls but most blinks can.
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On November 25 2012 14:55 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 14:53 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2012 13:51 obesechicken13 wrote:
It's not actually a dash. Dashes don't go over thick walls when the thick walls are facing you. Malphite ulti? Dashes can go through any wall, but unlike blinks they have to go completely through the wall (blinks only need to go halfway through the wall). That's basically why most dashes can't get through thick walls but most blinks can.
But wait. You can definitely dash one way if the wall is not thick on one side but not thick on the other.
Nidalee, even though she doesn't dash, can jump a wall when there's no thick wall facing her, but she can't do it to the same wall the other way around.
You know what? I'm just wrong about everything.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Dash
Trist's jump is a dash. TIL.
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On November 25 2012 14:30 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 14:00 arb wrote:On November 25 2012 13:28 travis wrote:On November 25 2012 13:14 thenexusp wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. Yeah it turns out having the best escape of any AD carry will keep you high like that. there is this one guy named corki and he has a pretty good escape Valk is no where near Arcane shift. why oh the other guy listed some reasons does valk not override blitz hooks? because it works the exact same as ez e vs say, a taric stun just goes farther
Only reason it works so well vs. taric stun is because of how damn slow that gem projectile is. Pretty sure corki just outruns the thing.
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On November 25 2012 15:11 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 14:55 thenexusp wrote:On November 25 2012 14:53 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2012 13:51 obesechicken13 wrote:
It's not actually a dash. Dashes don't go over thick walls when the thick walls are facing you. Malphite ulti? Dashes can go through any wall, but unlike blinks they have to go completely through the wall (blinks only need to go halfway through the wall). That's basically why most dashes can't get through thick walls but most blinks can. But wait. You can definitely dash one way if the wall is not thick on one side but not thick on the other. Nidalee, even though she doesn't dash, can jump a wall when there's no thick wall facing her, but she can't do it to the same wall the other way around. You know what? I'm just wrong about everything. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/DashTrist's jump is a dash. TIL.
Isn't nidalee's dash special somehow? Given riot's coding practices, I would be surprised if half of those dashes in the same grouping in that wiki page were actually programmed the same way. Like I've seen multiple videos of amumu glitching across the map with his bandage toss, but yet to see a leona video do the same.
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On November 25 2012 13:55 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:37 Chrispy wrote:On November 25 2012 13:17 TheLink wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. 3 months of all AD's playing nothing but ez means AD's are pretty good at playing ez now and not much else.  EDIT: to be fair ez was trash until max W first was discovered to be OP. Then they buffed his Q to discourage W first... riot logic This is simply not true. He was good even when maxing Q, people just didn't play him. Then that Taiwanese guy came and really popularized the shit out of him. Anyways I remember posting that Ezreal would still be good after W nerf. This is not true, the reasons for Ez explosion is not about people sucked at him Graves was nerfed, Ez W was buffed, Q was buffed, Urgot was nerfed, Double support was nerfed. Graves and Urgot were just plain better carries than Ez in lane and mid game.
Ez was still popular before the Graves and Corki nerfs, that was when the Holy ADC Trinity was in full force. After the nerfs to the other two Ez became the obvious go to choice.
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oh god i cant stand bischu so much
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On November 25 2012 13:55 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:37 Chrispy wrote:On November 25 2012 13:17 TheLink wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. 3 months of all AD's playing nothing but ez means AD's are pretty good at playing ez now and not much else. EDIT: to be fair ez was trash until max W first was discovered to be OP. Then they buffed his Q to discourage W first... riot logic This is simply not true. He was good even when maxing Q, people just didn't play him. Then that Taiwanese guy came and really popularized the shit out of him. Anyways I remember posting that Ezreal would still be good after W nerf. This is not true, the reasons for Ez explosion is not about people sucked at him Graves was nerfed, Ez W was buffed, Q was buffed, Urgot was nerfed, Double support was nerfed. Graves and Urgot were just plain better carries than Ez in lane and mid game.
Asian teams were using Ezzy well before the buffs and the Graves/Urgot nerfs, and Doublelift basically brought Ezreal to the west after playing with/against Chinese and Korean teams.
The west was basically blind to how strong Ezzy was until Doublelift brought it back, but that doesn't mean Ezreal was bad.
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On November 25 2012 15:19 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 15:11 obesechicken13 wrote:On November 25 2012 14:55 thenexusp wrote:On November 25 2012 14:53 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2012 13:51 obesechicken13 wrote:
It's not actually a dash. Dashes don't go over thick walls when the thick walls are facing you. Malphite ulti? Dashes can go through any wall, but unlike blinks they have to go completely through the wall (blinks only need to go halfway through the wall). That's basically why most dashes can't get through thick walls but most blinks can. But wait. You can definitely dash one way if the wall is not thick on one side but not thick on the other. Nidalee, even though she doesn't dash, can jump a wall when there's no thick wall facing her, but she can't do it to the same wall the other way around. You know what? I'm just wrong about everything. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/DashTrist's jump is a dash. TIL. Isn't nidalee's dash special somehow? Given riot's coding practices, I would be surprised if half of those dashes in the same grouping in that wiki page were actually programmed the same way. Like I've seen multiple videos of amumu glitching across the map with his bandage toss, but yet to see a leona video do the same.
Thing about Amumu is that his bandage toss will always move his model through the terrain. So if his final model position ends up in a place where he can't be (ie. inside a wall) the game will glitch. Difference with Leona is that when she uses her E, her model disappears for the duration; in other words, Leona's E acts more similar to Ez E whereas Amumu bandage toss is more similar to dashes.
On November 25 2012 15:32 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:55 Eppa! wrote:On November 25 2012 13:37 Chrispy wrote:On November 25 2012 13:17 TheLink wrote:On November 25 2012 13:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
One strange thing I noticed is that Ezreal has a great win rate even after the attack speed debuff. 3 months of all AD's playing nothing but ez means AD's are pretty good at playing ez now and not much else. EDIT: to be fair ez was trash until max W first was discovered to be OP. Then they buffed his Q to discourage W first... riot logic This is simply not true. He was good even when maxing Q, people just didn't play him. Then that Taiwanese guy came and really popularized the shit out of him. Anyways I remember posting that Ezreal would still be good after W nerf. This is not true, the reasons for Ez explosion is not about people sucked at him Graves was nerfed, Ez W was buffed, Q was buffed, Urgot was nerfed, Double support was nerfed. Graves and Urgot were just plain better carries than Ez in lane and mid game. Asian teams were using Ezzy well before the buffs and the Graves/Urgot nerfs, and Doublelift basically brought Ezreal to the west after playing with/against Chinese and Korean teams. The west was basically blind to how strong Ezzy was until Doublelift brought it back, but that doesn't mean Ezreal was bad.
Ez was thought to be terrible for a long time in part because his mana costs used to be prohibitively high. After Riot lowered his mana costs Ez was in a very good place, but the West didn't catch on to that and still operated under the assumption that he sucked.
Even without his W aspd debuff, he still has meets the standard for a good AD carry. He has a reliable escape/repositioning skill, good AD ratios, solid poke, and a good steroid.
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On November 25 2012 15:22 OutlaW- wrote:
oh god i cant stand bischu so much
I like him, he's a nice guy. Bit flamboyant but nice
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http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/pluTGA.htm
TGA Finals (linked the Flash restream since people were having issues with the Tencent stream yesterday). First time a Chinese event hasn't had a WE vs. IG finals in quite a while. Tabe's new team, Royal, beat IG to get to the finals. Their solo laners seem somewhat mediocre. Their bot lane is extremely strong (riding on Tabe's experience)--and it will be interesting to see how they perform against Weixiao/Fzzf (even if they lose, being able to put pressure on Weixiao+Fzzf is something most teams in the world are not capable of).
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On November 25 2012 15:47 TheYango wrote:http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/pluTGA.htmTGA Finals (linked the Flash restream since people were having issues with the Tencent stream yesterday). First time a Chinese event hasn't had a WE vs. IG finals in quite a while. Tabe's new team, Royal, beat IG to get to the finals. Their solo laners seem somewhat mediocre. Their bot lane is extremely strong (riding on Tabe's experience)--and it will be interesting to see how they perform against Weixiao/Fzzf (even if they lose, being able to put pressure on Weixiao+Fzzf is something most teams in the world are not capable of).
Thanks!
Tabe as in Mikako Tabe? As in best AD carry in China before Wx? Didn't he retire?
Also, M5 really popular in China.
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On November 25 2012 15:50 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 15:47 TheYango wrote:http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/pluTGA.htmTGA Finals (linked the Flash restream since people were having issues with the Tencent stream yesterday). First time a Chinese event hasn't had a WE vs. IG finals in quite a while. Tabe's new team, Royal, beat IG to get to the finals. Their solo laners seem somewhat mediocre. Their bot lane is extremely strong (riding on Tabe's experience)--and it will be interesting to see how they perform against Weixiao/Fzzf (even if they lose, being able to put pressure on Weixiao+Fzzf is something most teams in the world are not capable of). Thanks! Tabe as in Mikako Tabe? As in best AD carry in China before Wx? Didn't he retire? Also, M5 really popular in China.
Yes, it's MikakoTabe, though he hasn't played AD for a long time--was support on NA/OMG (and still is support on Royal), and was actually known more for his Blitzcrank in early S1 (when he was still on HKEGG and Knob HK played AD).
With Wh1t3zz' retirement, Tabe is now the most experienced LoL player in China.
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On November 25 2012 05:01 Simberto wrote:
Maybe consider thinking of them not as people, but as parts of the game you have to solve. Basically, you are not playing a 5v5, you are playing a 1 man puzzle game. The players on your team and on the enemy team are just parts of the puzzle who you have to play right to win, not actually participants of the game.
You know, this is a mentality i see more oftern now, and its troubling. I dont like it when people play without any interaction with the others. Why play a multiplayer game where you act like you are playing single? Ok, other people are better than any AI to play against, but still. I think it shouldnt be encouraged to unhumanize the game.
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On November 25 2012 15:44 HazMat wrote:I like him, he's a nice guy. Bit flamboyant but nice
if i never heard him talk it would have been fine, but he has one of the most annoying voices and laughs that i've ever heard. i just hear that voice of his whenever i see him message something in game. its hard to describe why i dislike him and i dont want to look like a douche but i just cant stand him
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On November 25 2012 15:47 TheYango wrote:http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/pluTGA.htmTGA Finals (linked the Flash restream since people were having issues with the Tencent stream yesterday). First time a Chinese event hasn't had a WE vs. IG finals in quite a while. Tabe's new team, Royal, beat IG to get to the finals. Their solo laners seem somewhat mediocre. Their bot lane is extremely strong (riding on Tabe's experience)--and it will be interesting to see how they perform against Weixiao/Fzzf (even if they lose, being able to put pressure on Weixiao+Fzzf is something most teams in the world are not capable of).
You should make a CN thread cause 99% of us are clueless as to what goes on there.
I'm serious.
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