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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 25 2012 16:41 GMT
#461
On October 26 2012 01:28 smOOthMayDie wrote:
What armor pen change?


Phreak posted on the forums that for S3 they're going to make % pen apply before flat pen.

So Last Whisperer+Masteries+Runes = true damage to everything
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 25 2012 16:41 GMT
#462
That means... Brutalizer and Last Whisper rushing champs like Pant, Talon, Rengar/KhaZix going to be so strong now T____T
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11933 Posts
October 25 2012 16:41 GMT
#463
On October 26 2012 01:25 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 01:21 Requizen wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:18 Morfildur wrote:
Looks like they want to reduce the Time-To-Kill for everything, not that big of a fan of that.

Also, i'm reaching 1250 ELO again, next 100 ELO drop incoming
(Yes, i'm bad)

That feel, I know it.

I'm honestly at the point where I'm like, I'm not reaching Gold by the 6th, and my highest is Silver, so I don't care about the skin anymore. Just playing ranked to improve and prepare for next season, hopefully placement will be more intuitive and there will be less playing with the types of "gamers" that have plagued my games for the previous weeks.

Yeah just lost 200 elo too (1450 to 1270ish), do you guys have an idea why you drop that much ? Did you try out new things, play other roles ? I'm wondering, is it because I left my comfort zone ?


I might sound insane here, but i noticed a pattern. I lose elo when i am hungry. A lot. I win after i ate something.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
October 25 2012 16:42 GMT
#464
Wait, so I get to actually try and play Wukong now? Holy shit, awesome.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 16:45:07
October 25 2012 16:43 GMT
#465
In other news, MonteCristo replaces Moletrap as a caster for OGN.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 16:44:21
October 25 2012 16:43 GMT
#466
On October 26 2012 01:34 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 01:32 Cloud9157 wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:21 Cloud9157 wrote:
So I'm going to ask for everyone's opinion on something: slow.

I have had numerous discussions with a friend of mine about it. It honestly is a terrible form of cc that doesn't even affect most of the champs nowadays. Try to slow Riven? Nah, she gets 3 bunny hops and a dash to keep moving. Try to slow an Ahri? No, three flashes and shes outta there. Hell, try slowing an ad carry with a blink? Nope, can't catch them.

Now, its great against some champs like Udyr that lack a dash, but it really ruins some junglers. Trundle, for instance, can't gank half the champs these days since they just dash right around his pillar. Basically, he suggested that it MIGHT be worth looking into to have slow affect skills like Ahri ult. Basically when slowed, you don't get to teleport/blink/dash as far.

inb4 everyones mad and isuck

I don't think it's as bad as you think it is. There are quite a few strong counters that work well against "Dashers". Ryze was a popular anti-ahri pick, during the height of her pick, because rune prison completely wrecked her hard. Also, remember with these types of "dashes", if they're using them to escape, they can't use them to do damage.


I mean, yeah Ryze works well against her, but snare works against everyone frankly. Not saying to nerf dashes, merely suggesting to "buff" slows a bit.

Eh, I don't think slows need to "counter" high mobility. Slows counter sprints in the way that hard CC (including snares, stuns, and supresses) counters dashes/blinks. The issue is, there are less sprints, and the champions that have them are underplayed or not played at all, so slows are less useful.

More often than not Slows are on a much shorter cooldown than sprints are, too. So it's also the reapplication of slows are up to the player to force sprints/dashes on cd, and reapply slows.

Also armor pen change is gunna make bruisers vs bruiser fights more awesome now.
liftlift > tsm
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 16:50:36
October 25 2012 16:48 GMT
#467
League servers were up, then went to busy. gg riot i quit dis game

no apparently im wrong they're fine
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 25 2012 16:50 GMT
#468
slows also work after they blow their abilities, work best with flanking them.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 25 2012 16:50 GMT
#469
jungle fiora is SO MUCH FUN AAAAAAAH
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 16:51:25
October 25 2012 16:51 GMT
#470
On October 26 2012 01:42 Cloud9157 wrote:
Wait, so I get to actually try and play Wukong now? Holy shit, awesome.


wukong is armor shred, same as blackcleaver which is armor reduction as well, will still apply before % armor pen afaik
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
October 25 2012 16:53 GMT
#471
Trying out the new TT!

Also, try our new one-step program for getting Honorable Opponent Badge:

Step 1: turn off cross-team chat

enjoy!
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
October 25 2012 16:57 GMT
#472
On October 26 2012 01:53 BlasiuS wrote:
Trying out the new TT!

Also, try our new one-step program for getting Honorable Opponent Badge:

Step 1: turn off cross-team chat

enjoy!

Haha i have cross team chat off and got my badge pretty quickly.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 25 2012 17:03 GMT
#473
On October 26 2012 01:42 Cloud9157 wrote:
Wait, so I get to actually try and play Wukong now? Holy shit, awesome.

Well, Wukong actually is good. But he gets wrecked by (a good, bads are trashed hilariously) Rengar and Darius is probably one of the worst match-up I have ever experimented, along with playing against Jayce/Yorick.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 25 2012 17:06 GMT
#474
is the penetration change coming next season just reverting it back to pre season 1 or am i missing something?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 25 2012 17:07 GMT
#475
On October 26 2012 01:50 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
jungle fiora is SO MUCH FUN AAAAAAAH


Isn't it also broken as all heck right now due to Riposte selfcasting?
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 17:23:30
October 25 2012 17:10 GMT
#476
On October 26 2012 01:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 01:34 Requizen wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:32 Cloud9157 wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:21 Cloud9157 wrote:
So I'm going to ask for everyone's opinion on something: slow.

I have had numerous discussions with a friend of mine about it. It honestly is a terrible form of cc that doesn't even affect most of the champs nowadays. Try to slow Riven? Nah, she gets 3 bunny hops and a dash to keep moving. Try to slow an Ahri? No, three flashes and shes outta there. Hell, try slowing an ad carry with a blink? Nope, can't catch them.

Now, its great against some champs like Udyr that lack a dash, but it really ruins some junglers. Trundle, for instance, can't gank half the champs these days since they just dash right around his pillar. Basically, he suggested that it MIGHT be worth looking into to have slow affect skills like Ahri ult. Basically when slowed, you don't get to teleport/blink/dash as far.

inb4 everyones mad and isuck

I don't think it's as bad as you think it is. There are quite a few strong counters that work well against "Dashers". Ryze was a popular anti-ahri pick, during the height of her pick, because rune prison completely wrecked her hard. Also, remember with these types of "dashes", if they're using them to escape, they can't use them to do damage.


I mean, yeah Ryze works well against her, but snare works against everyone frankly. Not saying to nerf dashes, merely suggesting to "buff" slows a bit.

Eh, I don't think slows need to "counter" high mobility. Slows counter sprints in the way that hard CC (including snares, stuns, and supresses) counters dashes/blinks. The issue is, there are less sprints, and the champions that have them are underplayed or not played at all, so slows are less useful.

More often than not Slows are on a much shorter cooldown than sprints are, too. So it's also the reapplication of slows are up to the player to force sprints/dashes on cd, and reapply slows.

Also armor pen change is gunna make bruisers vs bruiser fights more awesome now.


Play skarner and never again think slow is useless
Yeah, slow is not as good as a full stun but usually it can be applied constantly or at least for longer periods of time, so it's actually awesome.


On October 26 2012 01:25 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 01:21 Requizen wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:18 Morfildur wrote:
Looks like they want to reduce the Time-To-Kill for everything, not that big of a fan of that.

Also, i'm reaching 1250 ELO again, next 100 ELO drop incoming
(Yes, i'm bad)

That feel, I know it.

I'm honestly at the point where I'm like, I'm not reaching Gold by the 6th, and my highest is Silver, so I don't care about the skin anymore. Just playing ranked to improve and prepare for next season, hopefully placement will be more intuitive and there will be less playing with the types of "gamers" that have plagued my games for the previous weeks.

Yeah just lost 200 elo too (1450 to 1270ish), do you guys have an idea why you drop that much ? Did you try out new things, play other roles ? I'm wondering, is it because I left my comfort zone ?


I drop everytime i reach the 1250 mark because the next 6-7 games it's either me failing completely to do any basic action right or my teammates manage to be completely uncarryable. It's a curse!

EDIT:
The curse is showing it's first signs.
My team is now speaking in extremely broken english, the name of the firstpick starts with "fuck" and the bans were Lulu, Morgana and Mordekaiser (because "Morde is the only counter to Diana").
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 25 2012 17:13 GMT
#477
WTF where are the costumes????
Carrilord has arrived.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 17:21:34
October 25 2012 17:19 GMT
#478
On October 26 2012 02:03 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 01:42 Cloud9157 wrote:
Wait, so I get to actually try and play Wukong now? Holy shit, awesome.

Well, Wukong actually is good. But he gets wrecked by (a good, bads are trashed hilariously) Rengar and Darius is probably one of the worst match-up I have ever experimented, along with playing against Jayce/Yorick.


Ugh, Darius is terrifying. If you're good, apparently you can w as he ultis you and then keep fighting him. Pretty sure he still outdamages you with his retarded passive though. I always heard speculations that Wukong was good against Rengar since you can w when he leaps at you, but never tried it myself.

I still believe Lee is his worst matchup. Reveal+sustain+AS debuff. GG Monkey king.

I just don't have the confidence to play him in ranked. Really wish everybody played Riven and started boots against him. Somehow I always seem to beat those kind of Rivens in lane, when she should probably still stomp him.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 25 2012 17:25 GMT
#479
So what's up with Fiora Jungle? How to build and what to abuse I'm desperate for some freelo right now
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
October 25 2012 17:26 GMT
#480
I'm only 1600 but I was playing on my friends 1050 account while mine was banned (damn me being an asshole!) and i duo'd with my other 1100~ friend and just played nidalee top and completely won every game by just pushing top and outplaying the other top so hard their team just raged at him. No one could farm at all, I was the only person ever over 200 cs.

A lot of the people around that level really just need to farm better so they can afford items at the same timings and not fall behind
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