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Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
October 18 2012 11:28 GMT
#581
Is that a new nidalee skin? If so, first day buy 10x over.


Looks like fiora to me, it's her hairstyle/colour and fits her build. The ruler fits her weapon style as well.

Preppy Fiora, what will they think of next XD, that one is rather risque, I'd actually be quite surprised if it was an official skin...
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
October 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#582
On October 18 2012 20:28 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is that a new nidalee skin? If so, first day buy 10x over.



Preppy Fiora, what will they think of next XD


My money is on a magic-mikeish skin for wukong.
KCCO!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 18 2012 12:02 GMT
#583
On October 18 2012 17:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 17:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
HAHAHA oh man, real Eve nerf:
Ult goes from 0.02% AP ratio to 0.01%.
Also WTF these new items....


Even without that nerf Eve is screwed. The DFG nerf is really harsh for Eve.

I wonder what I will build on Morde with the DFG nerf... hmm....

EDIT: Diana is kind of screwed too.

K.
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 12:15:31
October 18 2012 12:10 GMT
#584
.01% nerfs it in half...

it is pretty big to nerf something to 50% of its former ability power.

DFG being 15% base with 5% every 100AP kills Eve's burst as well.

Her level 8 burst went from 40%+ in 2 clicks to 30%+ in 2 clicks.

at level 16 she will still have good burst assuming Dcap and Abyssal but early on it will be much harder to gib something.

Which is a change I agree with

Got my first bugsplat... and it wont go away.

Cannot load the game AWESOME
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 12:17:04
October 18 2012 12:16 GMT
#585
On October 18 2012 19:59 Chexx wrote:
Dont get the hate about the ezreal nerfs. Just wait and see and always remember even if it is on the pbe does not mean it will be ingame.


I think the hate is because it's not just a nerf but it's removing an interesting dynamic from the spell. Now it's just a Q that doesn't go through creeps it seems. It's almost a redesign more than a balance change. The whole do I go Q for poke or W for trading autos dynamic gets completely removed which seems silly. Having choice in how you level is a good thing.
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
October 18 2012 12:16 GMT
#586
Holy Shit, that Brand skin!
Best skin so far imo.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 18 2012 12:18 GMT
#587
On October 18 2012 21:10 Bladeorade wrote:
.01% nerfs it in half...

it is pretty big to nerf something to 50% of its former ability power.

DFG being 15% base with 5% every 100AP kills Eve's burst as well.

Her level 8 burst went from 40%+ in 2 clicks to 30%+ in 2 clicks.

at level 16 she will still have good burst assuming Dcap and Abyssal but early on it will be much harder to gib something.

Which is a change I agree with

Got my first bugsplat... and it wont go away.

Cannot load the game AWESOME

Not going to attempt to argue this much, because I'm honestly hoping this is the prevailing opinion, but when did you ever have DFG at level 8 anyway?

In other news, holy FUCK THAT ZOMBIE BRAND DANCE
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 18 2012 12:26 GMT
#588
dfg is pretty much dead if they change it like it's in the patchnotes, the CDR was the best stat by far imo on that item and reducing its active just hurts it even more, well time to rush grail into dcap on every ap mid with mana now.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 12:32:32
October 18 2012 12:29 GMT
#589
whenever someone writes hahaha with 4 instead of a (h4h4h4) I read it in blitzcrank voice, why? what is wrong with me?

and wow that brand skill is really really good.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 18 2012 12:30 GMT
#590
without cdr, nerfed passive i dont see a reason to build dfg now, maybe except as a 6th item but then there are other great alternatives like lich bane, GA etc
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 18 2012 12:33 GMT
#591
DFG is useless now.

It's now an item that's only buyable on Veigar, and then only in laaategame, when you have Void and >600 AP, to chunk down tanks.
That's literally the only situation where it'll be useful.

Well, I guess that means I'mma abuse Athene's some more instead. Luckily there's enough OP caster items to go around.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 18 2012 12:33 GMT
#592
I bought jayce and decided to play my first game with him in ranked. I went 9/2/8 vs Lee Sin top lane. We still lost though. I'm not sure if its how I built him or if I was doing team fights wrong, or my team just failed me. Orianna got pretty fed mid.

My items went something like:
boots pots -> phage -> sheen -> merc treads -> triforce -> hex drinker -> GA -> Maw -> Blood thirster

In team fights I just would do the blasty poke thing, then in the actual engagement I would jump in hammer style on either graves or ori, put on my shield, and E them away from the fight.

Am I doing it wrong or do I just need more experience playing jayce.

1300 top ELO
only 1150 now, trying to pick an OP champ that might help me get back.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 18 2012 12:35 GMT
#593
In the upcoming patch, we’re removing the Attack Speed debuff on Essence Flux


What the hell? This is the most heavy-handed nerf I've ever heard of. 5 second 40% AS debuff that does 250 damage on a 9 second cooldown, at 900 range for only 90 mana. Yeah, sounds too strong. What should we do, maybe reduce the duration? Weaken the debuff? Increase the cooldown? Double the mana cost? Decrease the range?

No, let's fucking remove the whole thing.
I am the Town Medic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 18 2012 12:38 GMT
#594
On October 18 2012 21:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
DFG is useless now.

It's now an item that's only buyable on Veigar, and then only in laaategame, when you have Void and >600 AP, to chunk down tanks.
That's literally the only situation where it'll be useful.

Well, I guess that means I'mma abuse Athene's some more instead. Luckily there's enough OP caster items to go around.

It's still a cheap source of AP/burst considering it builds out of GP10, and Athene's on Eve is terrible. Yes the CDR removal is a hit but as far as Eve goes it's not that massive a hit (insanely low CD ult as is and Q spam is Q spam). I guarantee the ult change/DFG change did not kill her.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#595
On October 18 2012 21:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 21:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
DFG is useless now.

It's now an item that's only buyable on Veigar, and then only in laaategame, when you have Void and >600 AP, to chunk down tanks.
That's literally the only situation where it'll be useful.

Well, I guess that means I'mma abuse Athene's some more instead. Luckily there's enough OP caster items to go around.

It's still a cheap source of AP/burst considering it builds out of GP10, and Athene's on Eve is terrible. Yes the CDR removal is a hit but as far as Eve goes it's not that massive a hit (insanely low CD ult as is and Q spam is Q spam). I guarantee the ult change/DFG change did not kill her.

I don't play Eve, so I don't really care about Eve.
I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything about Eve.
She's a dumb champ anyways
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 18 2012 12:46 GMT
#596
On October 18 2012 21:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 21:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 18 2012 21:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
DFG is useless now.

It's now an item that's only buyable on Veigar, and then only in laaategame, when you have Void and >600 AP, to chunk down tanks.
That's literally the only situation where it'll be useful.

Well, I guess that means I'mma abuse Athene's some more instead. Luckily there's enough OP caster items to go around.

It's still a cheap source of AP/burst considering it builds out of GP10, and Athene's on Eve is terrible. Yes the CDR removal is a hit but as far as Eve goes it's not that massive a hit (insanely low CD ult as is and Q spam is Q spam). I guarantee the ult change/DFG change did not kill her.

I don't play Eve, so I don't really care about Eve.
I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything about Eve.
She's a dumb champ anyways

Sorry, that was the original point of conversation.
Carry on.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 18 2012 12:50 GMT
#597
yea i remember people claiming that nerf to atmas wasnt big and it still will be used, look at it now
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 18 2012 12:53 GMT
#598
On October 18 2012 19:25 wussleeQ wrote:
hmm.. no cdr on dfg anymore
no dcap on TT
the baron spider buff gives a lot of regen and attackspeed and cdr.
No wards.
Start with like 850 gold? something near that
owning one altar buff gives you +4 gold owning the 2nd gives you +10% AD and +10% AP.

I don't like it very much tbh.

Are you fucking serious? When I first heard about the TT remake I hoped they would fix the RNG spawns, strenght of mobs (fuck you black buff wraiths), and get rid of the ability to leash super creeps into the fountain and possibly make them stronger. But they complete changed the map which I'm not too happy about. I hate koth maps, jus play dominion if you're into that shit.
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
October 18 2012 12:57 GMT
#599
On October 18 2012 21:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 21:10 Bladeorade wrote:
.01% nerfs it in half...

it is pretty big to nerf something to 50% of its former ability power.

DFG being 15% base with 5% every 100AP kills Eve's burst as well.

Her level 8 burst went from 40%+ in 2 clicks to 30%+ in 2 clicks.

at level 16 she will still have good burst assuming Dcap and Abyssal but early on it will be much harder to gib something.

Which is a change I agree with

Got my first bugsplat... and it wont go away.

Cannot load the game AWESOME

Not going to attempt to argue this much, because I'm honestly hoping this is the prevailing opinion, but when did you ever have DFG at level 8 anyway?

In other news, holy FUCK THAT ZOMBIE BRAND DANCE

Ah... Level 8 was usually when I was able to afford DFG :/

Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
October 18 2012 12:57 GMT
#600
On October 18 2012 21:53 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 19:25 wussleeQ wrote:
hmm.. no cdr on dfg anymore
no dcap on TT
the baron spider buff gives a lot of regen and attackspeed and cdr.
No wards.
Start with like 850 gold? something near that
owning one altar buff gives you +4 gold owning the 2nd gives you +10% AD and +10% AP.

I don't like it very much tbh.

Are you fucking serious? When I first heard about the TT remake I hoped they would fix the RNG spawns, strenght of mobs (fuck you black buff wraiths), and get rid of the ability to leash super creeps into the fountain and possibly make them stronger. But they complete changed the map which I'm not too happy about. I hate koth maps, jus play dominion if you're into that shit.


I share similar sentiments. Reworking TT isn't a bad idea in and of itself, but adding the KoTH element to it just pisses me off. I was hoping the new TT would just play like SR but with 3 people and an entirely different meta, but now it's like a dominion/SR hybrid.

z.z
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