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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
October 22 2012 19:42 GMT
#2221
How on earth do I play ranged AD in teamfights against diana (especially when she's fed)?

Every fight she'll hit someone with her q, jump on them and that'll put her in range to jump on me, and then I get instagibbed... Should I be running the hell away from any teammates in her range or what? Because that's not easy in closed spaces
boomer hands
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
October 22 2012 19:42 GMT
#2222
I'm a low elo player trying to focus on top lane. I consider Shen my main champion, i can play a decent Irelia and a bad Malphite. I just refounded Ezreal and Nocturne (i was bored of them and they cost 6300 IP) and bought Darius and Vladimir. I'm also thinking on picking up Olaf and Singed in the future.

Is it any other important top lane champs that i should try to master? Should i ignore any of the ones i named?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 19:49:40
October 22 2012 19:46 GMT
#2223
On October 23 2012 04:34 Argoth. wrote:
There is a TL channel on EUW right?

LiquidParty

If that is what you are looking for...
Is it case sensitive? zzzzzz
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 19:47:06
October 22 2012 19:46 GMT
#2224
On October 23 2012 04:34 Argoth. wrote:
There is a TL channel on EUW right?

It's LiquidParty.

spine :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 19:51:21
October 22 2012 19:47 GMT
#2225
On October 23 2012 04:42 Yagami wrote:
I'm a low elo player trying to focus on top lane. I consider Shen my main champion, i can play a decent Irelia and a bad Malphite. I just refounded Ezreal and Nocturne (i was bored of them and they cost 6300 IP) and bought Darius and Vladimir. I'm also thinking on picking up Olaf and Singed in the future.

Is it any other important top lane champs that i should try to master? Should i ignore any of the ones i named?


Jayce/Rengar/Jax/Lee Sin/Nidalee/Riven/Wukong/Xin all can top lane. Jayce/Rengar/Jax are the strongest out of those imo.

@Seraph save your blink ability/flash for when she jumps in. If their team runs a lot of CC, try Cleanse/Flash instead of Ignite/Heal. Dodge her Q as best as you can, you don't want her to be able to reset her jump on you. Other than that, she is just hard to deal with when fed, like a lot of 'anticarries'. A bit like Akali when fed. Will always jump on your squishies, and if they are fed enough they will drop them fast. And the best tip is just to have a blink on your AD. So Ezreal/Corki or something, those abilities can make up for a mistake in positioning.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 22 2012 19:48 GMT
#2226
is twitch hella laggy for anyone else especially today? I can watch 3 hd streams normally but today i can barely watch EPS on 450+
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 22 2012 19:52 GMT
#2227
At around 8PM I had to switch to 240p to be able to watch Aphromoo without lag and freezes (at 720p and above I didn't even have sound). Happens regularly between 8PM and 10PM for me.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 19:52:50
October 22 2012 19:52 GMT
#2228
did annie always have animation problems?
i just did a game with her after not playing her for a long time and when i try to Q an enemy that is running away, it starts the animation, but then it stops and i just stand there like an idiot letting my kill escape with 10 hp. Its like wukong, but with spells :p
also, did they change tibber range? seemed so tiny.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
October 22 2012 19:54 GMT
#2229
On October 23 2012 04:42 seRapH wrote:
How on earth do I play ranged AD in teamfights against diana (especially when she's fed)?

Every fight she'll hit someone with her q, jump on them and that'll put her in range to jump on me, and then I get instagibbed... Should I be running the hell away from any teammates in her range or what? Because that's not easy in closed spaces

Pray for peels.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 22 2012 19:59 GMT
#2230
On October 23 2012 04:52 LaNague wrote:
did annie always have animation problems?
i just did a game with her after not playing her for a long time and when i try to Q an enemy that is running away, it starts the animation, but then it stops and i just stand there like an idiot letting my kill escape with 10 hp. Its like wukong, but with spells :p
also, did they change tibber range? seemed so tiny.

Try using Ryze's W. T_T

Also PBE very loaded it seems, I've been in login queue for something like 30 minutes now. Is it always that crowded, or is it the Halloween content that pulls people in?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 22 2012 20:00 GMT
#2231
I hate how this game is all about aoe ults, at least in low ELO. Can't do anything vs. an amumu + sona ult stacked, it's ridiculous. Games are basically won/lost at champ select.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 22 2012 20:04 GMT
#2232
On October 23 2012 05:00 IMoperator wrote:
Games are basically won/lost at champ select.


raised eyebrow
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 22 2012 20:04 GMT
#2233
On October 23 2012 04:54 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 04:42 seRapH wrote:
How on earth do I play ranged AD in teamfights against diana (especially when she's fed)?

Every fight she'll hit someone with her q, jump on them and that'll put her in range to jump on me, and then I get instagibbed... Should I be running the hell away from any teammates in her range or what? Because that's not easy in closed spaces

Pray for peels.

lol, i played a game yesterday when i was kogmaw, and i had a volibear and singed who would constantly throw pantheon and diana at me and then peace to go fight other ppl.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 22 2012 20:06 GMT
#2234
On October 23 2012 05:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 05:00 IMoperator wrote:
Games are basically won/lost at champ select.


raised eyebrow

I mean whoever has the better teamfighting team will win, so if you don't have as much aoe damage as the other team you lose.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 20:08:19
October 22 2012 20:08 GMT
#2235
nopenope low elo you camp one lane and make everyone rage at that guy and win the game

edit: dat post count
boomer hands
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 22 2012 20:08 GMT
#2236
On October 23 2012 05:06 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 05:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
On October 23 2012 05:00 IMoperator wrote:
Games are basically won/lost at champ select.


raised eyebrow

I mean whoever has the better teamfighting team will win, so if you don't have as much aoe damage as the other team you lose.

most, if not all mobas work like that at low levels tho; that's def not something unique to league.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 22 2012 20:09 GMT
#2237
On October 23 2012 05:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 05:00 IMoperator wrote:
Games are basically won/lost at champ select.


raised eyebrow



Its very possible that at our low level, champ select have little to no impact on the game. But at high level of competition, and assuming equal skills on both side, I wouldn't be surprised if games were won due solely to picks and counter picks.

Picking strong champions is always a smart plan in our level of play!!
This is why Morgana is one of my most successful AP. Her ultimate can probably hide the fact that your team played poorly. Same can be said about other AOE ult ^^
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11620 Posts
October 22 2012 20:10 GMT
#2238
I have always had the opposite experience, where the game is most often won or lost during laning, or depending on which team gets the better fights midgame due to catching people in the jungle, and the teamfights very rarely change anything about this. Especially considering the morale effect of people losing lane (flaming, rage, people typing and not paying attention).
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 22 2012 20:16 GMT
#2239
On October 23 2012 05:10 Simberto wrote:
I have always had the opposite experience, where the game is most often won or lost during laning, or depending on which team gets the better fights midgame due to catching people in the jungle, and the teamfights very rarely change anything about this. Especially considering the morale effect of people losing lane (flaming, rage, people typing and not paying attention).


Most games can be lost during laning phase because of bad morale, I agree. But with a champion like morgana (or say Amumu if your team has it), you just man up and start making calls (doesn't always work) on different objectives. Because you have the better AOE, or because you have strong AOE, a group of 5 bad solo queue can quickly take advantage of their group by overcoming the opponents (opponents are just as disorganized as we are, anyway). Most games, we can take towers, dragons, etc., before the enemy team start grouping up.

To sum up : when losing, try to group up. Enemy team might take some time to react. So you can probably kill a bunch of guys and take some dragons and towers, thus closing the gap
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 22 2012 20:19 GMT
#2240
On October 23 2012 04:59 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 04:52 LaNague wrote:
did annie always have animation problems?
i just did a game with her after not playing her for a long time and when i try to Q an enemy that is running away, it starts the animation, but then it stops and i just stand there like an idiot letting my kill escape with 10 hp. Its like wukong, but with spells :p
also, did they change tibber range? seemed so tiny.

Try using Ryze's W. T_T

Also PBE very loaded it seems, I've been in login queue for something like 30 minutes now. Is it always that crowded, or is it the Halloween content that pulls people in?

I would assume it's the TT remake that's enticing everyone.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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