EPT[Patch 1.0.0.149: TF Update] General Discussion - Page 111
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UniversalSnip
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Zenithal
United States142 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:01 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: any of you remember who my most favouritest main champion was back in the day? why am I just starting to play Katarina again now? why didn't I jump on this as soon as the rework went through? my girl is fucking ridiculous right now. Meh, kat has lost a lot of her old charm. I liked her being super ult dependent. Still bugs me that Shunpo got nerfed like crazy, I loved the old ratio on it. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Carry on. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
lolwut | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:08 Zenithal wrote: Who to pick into Kha or Rengar top? Is my Darius ok or should I do someone sustain-y like WW? jayce but he's banned in 99.9% of the games currently though, darius, jax and irelia do well vs both but rengar is kinda ridiculous similar to jayce right now. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:04 UniversalSnip wrote: my musketeer tf looks pretty shitty now, pretty sad about it. I really like that his picking card is big and not covered up by his health bar, can't say i'm blown away by anything else about the remake. Even if they're going to adjust everyone's scale later why not just release him proportionate and move him with everyone else? Looks really amatuerish and bad atm. Overall it's not only the least good of their visual remakes so far, it's the only one that imo is a straight nerf... Which is ridiculous considering the old model really did suck. At least it looked good wearing a blue feather cap. Also I had the surprise when playing him recently that the trick to always pick a gold card first by looking to the beat I had just learned is not possible anymore. fkuriot | ||
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Lmui
Canada6222 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11749 Posts
On October 23 2012 03:44 ticklishmusic wrote: Hmm, that's cool. Since most damage in bot lane is physical, its basically free anti-CC. I haven't played much Morg support though-- still, I feel for a squishy support she doesn't have much utility compared to, say, Janna, Lulu, Raka or Sona. Still smaller than 6-stack Cho. I am not convinced. You have to remember that Cho will get rescaled, too. But that leads to a point where a pretty high chance of him collapsing under his own gravity exists, which would make him smaller then all other champions. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:08 wei2coolman wrote: Meh, kat has lost a lot of her old charm. I liked her being super ult dependent. Still bugs me that Shunpo got nerfed like crazy, I loved the old ratio on it. She never was "super ult dependent". One of the strongest ways to play her was pretty much the same thing you do right now, which is chainkilling enemies with QWE, now it would be QEW. The main difference is that she went from snowball through harrass and kills laning phase to focusing on farming rather than harrassing. I played her quite a bunch in the weeks before the remake, and after the remake the skill order and the way I lane was pretty much all I changed. Oh she also got the ability to spam W on the enemy frontline before she can go chainkilling now. Before the remake, I quite literally didn't do anything until I got a chance to kill someone. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:12 Lmui wrote: Alright, watching froggen's stream yesterday I saw a couple of TL people with/against him. Is he actually that much better than most AP mids on the NA server? It seems that unless the jungler/top camps him non-stop for the whole game he'll carry 100% of the time, regardless of what he's doing, it doesn't even seem fair the amount of attention he gets a lot of the time. I'm reading this sentence, and it's worded so awkwardly that it seems like you're saying "well he carries 100% of the time" while simultaneously somehow not being impressed and calling him overrated. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
If the hitbox changed...scaling up all the champs is so Derp I cannot fully explain the implications for a full-on rescaling of champs. | ||
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Zenithal
United States142 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:11 AsnSensation wrote: jayce but he's banned in 99.9% of the games currently though, darius, jax and irelia do well vs both but rengar is kinda ridiculous similar to jayce right now. Last time I played Jax vs Kha'Zix, he was able to nearly istagib me from level 2 onwards. Sad, because when I play Kha, I feel like I do no damage even when fed. Maybe I'm just bad :\ | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:22 Zenithal wrote: Last time I played Jax vs Kha'Zix, he was able to nearly istagib me from level 2 onwards. Sad, because when I play Kha, I feel like I do no damage even when fed. Maybe I'm just bad :\ I have this exact same feeling. Is there a non-cheese build that people are running on bug that makes people straight-up explode or is it just generally all-in stuff? I'm running AD/Ar/MR/AD with 21/9/0 and I still don't feel like I kill top opponents enough. I've tried Q max and W max... both like w/e... Or am I just bad? That's a definite possibility. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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AwayFromLife
United States441 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:29 AsmodeusXI wrote: I have this exact same feeling. Is there a non-cheese build that people are running on bug that makes people straight-up explode or is it just generally all-in stuff? I'm running AD/Ar/MR/AD with 21/9/0 and I still don't feel like I kill top opponents enough. I've tried Q max and W max... both like w/e... Or am I just bad? That's a definite possibility. Remember to autoattack. A lot of things I see at my elo (and I find myself doing as well, admittedly), is not autoattacking during a trade/fight. It's why you see people playing supposed OP champs like Rengar, Jayce, and Darius, but not doing well with them. If you run up and expect one auto and your abilities to kill someone by itself, that's not happening. Especially in top lane with AD bruisers, even if one auto doesn't feel like it's chunking people, they add up over time. A Kha'Zix who uses his passive's and E's slow to stick to someone and auto attack is going to feel terrifying, while one who just does WEQ and then runs away is going to complain about not having damage. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 23 2012 04:29 AsmodeusXI wrote: I have this exact same feeling. Is there a non-cheese build that people are running on bug that makes people straight-up explode or is it just generally all-in stuff? I'm running AD/Ar/MR/AD with 21/9/0 and I still don't feel like I kill top opponents enough. I've tried Q max and W max... both like w/e... Or am I just bad? That's a definite possibility. Imo W max is stronger, since you're very rarely going to get Q isolation in lane due to creeps. Without the isolation bonus, W scales better (40 dmg per level compared to 30). The sustain and poking power of W is amazing as well. Not to mention when you evolve W it's aoe and utility is just insane. The key to winning lanes as Kha is to abuse your passive. It does a TON of dmg. When I first played Khazix I wasn't abusing the 0 cd passive and felt like I did no damage. But honestly, your passive is a good chunk of +plus dmg and it has no cooldown. Personally, I've been going R>W>Q>E and evolving W/E first, then whichever I didn't get. Then evolve R. Honestly, the Q evolution isn't that great; the whole isolation thing is very meh since the search range for isolation is huge so in teamfights and in lane you're rarely going to get it. It's amazing for solo-killing tho I guess. The Q and auto attack range increase is nice, but 50 range is kinda pathetic. On the other hand, R evolution essentially gives you a 50% increase in charges, which translates to an extra 220 damage nuke/slow. Being able to juke out nukes and damage with the extra stealth and 40% dmg reduction in stealth is a bonus. | ||
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