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Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
September 28 2012 19:22 GMT
#561
I've found my calling:

Only play redheads.

So far today only female redheads, no losses, and I played awesome. Need to try gragas.

Ultimate test: Jungle Trundle.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 19:25:38
September 28 2012 19:24 GMT
#562
On September 29 2012 03:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
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On September 29 2012 03:43 clickrush wrote:
requizen the games at 1.4k arent really different from 1.2k


having perosnally experienced 1.0k to 1.7k they all feel the same

the only thing different is that once you hit a new medal tier you get more rage. ie 1400s -> im silver im so much better htan this bronze scrubs im messiah

1500s-> shit im gold im in TOP THREE PERCENT OF LEAGUE PLAYERS IN THE WORLD bow down to meeeee

so a lot more rage around those 2 numbers

rest is all the same


I hover around 1550.

I went on a hot streak and spiked up to 1750 and i could defiantly feel the difference in skill. I had to play conservatively and just try to farm and not die and hope that my team could carry me because my lane opponent would just outclass me almost every time.

I also didn't play at all over the summer so when I started again I dropped to 1300 and I could see so many bad calls and bad play going on, although it took me a while to start carrying out of it because my mechanics were so rusty.

There is a definate difference in play and they feel different to me. The same shit of people feeding there lane 0-5 and people getting fed and trying to 1v5 happens but the games do feel different to me.

On another note i played a game as xerath vs kat rengar and the new guy. Most miserable game i have ever played.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 28 2012 19:24 GMT
#563
On September 29 2012 04:20 Berailfor wrote:
God I hate how they came out with Rengar and Khazix consecutively. They are way too similar. And I really think that the "Head of Khazix" thing needs to be taken out. No other hidden passive is that game changing especially over something so small. Just buy bonetooth when he hits lvl 16. Co-ordinate your team for a huge suicide gank on him. Even if half your team dies you just got permanent full bonetooth stacks. Yeah that's retarded IMO.

You are overvaluing full bonetooth stacks and overestimating the probability that rengar and kha'zix will be on opposing teams in a situation where both hit lvl 16 and the game is still even.

Most likely it will have already been a stomp and nothing game changing will happen.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 28 2012 19:26 GMT
#564
On September 29 2012 04:22 Cuddle wrote:
I've found my calling:

Only play redheads.

So far today only female redheads, no losses, and I played awesome. Need to try gragas.

Ultimate test: Jungle Trundle.

I'd play him more but he's only average at camping and I need to do that when I go in normals because I have to compensate for my lower skill friends.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
September 28 2012 19:30 GMT
#565
On September 29 2012 02:50 kaykaykay wrote:
Hey guys. how's everybody doing, kaykaykay here.
I've recently started playing LoL again, after a really long break where i was 29.
Just ding lvl 30 yesterday.

I'm thinking of buying a new champ.
I play a lot of leblanc because i like to roam about the map, particularly to places opponents wont even imagine and snipe them off 1v1 like a true assassin.


However the problem i feel with leblanc is that she falls of pretty much the moment she can't 1 shot anybody.
a good leblanc cannot afford to farm, she has to be picking off people all the time, something i'm sadly not skilled enough to handle.
And in team fights where I've done all my spells, and i've this big window thinking "hmms..., so what do i do now." ( while waiting for my cooldowns to come back up )

So i've decided on these champions
ahri / diana / akali (?)
because i feel that you can afford to farm, and contribute to team fights better.

Therefore which champion do you think i should get? Feel free to recomend me something you think i'd like.
he or she should have high mobility and can kill something and get out fine before anyone on the opposing team can react.

Thank you.


bumps.
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 28 2012 19:32 GMT
#566
Diana is the new hot pick for pro mid players.

Ahri is probably easier to lane with though since worst case scenario you just last hit from far away and push waves with Q.
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Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 19:34:01
September 28 2012 19:32 GMT
#567
xes: If you mean that graphs of percentile Elo rankings in LoL do, I think that's usual since skill correlates with how often you play. So -- and this is really just my intuition, so correct me if I'm wrong -- 1200 Elo in LoL represents the average skill you would expect to actually meet in a game, i.e. average skill weighted by play frequency. Thus even if skill is normally distributed, the distribution of Elo will be skewed right.

If you mean that graphs of percentile Elo rankings in general look lognormal then that's about what I'd expect, at least for LoL.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 28 2012 19:38 GMT
#568
I'm spectating a Ziggs and Zyra with 2-3 drings + NLR, they're each able to one shot the other one but Zyra only has to WER to kill him and it's way faster than his own spells so he blows up everytime. That lane seems so silly.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 19:44:17
September 28 2012 19:39 GMT
#569
Just play Ahri. Since anyone who wants to play AP mid pretty much needs to know either Ahri or Morgana so they can have an uncounterable lane.

edit:
Consider Morgana too actually. She isn't a terrible roamer because while you don't have a ton of mobility you out push most people. So you can push up the wave, go gank a lane, and then come back in time to farm the minions that are now at your tower. Black shield, your bind, and your ult are ridiculously strong tools in a gank.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
September 28 2012 19:40 GMT
#570
On September 29 2012 04:38 Alaric wrote:
I'm spectating a Ziggs and Zyra with 2-3 drings + NLR, they're each able to one shot the other one but Zyra only has to WER to kill him and it's way faster than his own spells so he blows up everytime. That lane seems so silly.


zyra's range is crap lol ziggs shoudnt be getting hit while just tossing bombs nonstop, each one that hit sis like 1/3 of zyra's hp

easy lane for ziggs
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Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
September 28 2012 19:41 GMT
#571
Most people think they're at a lower ELO than they should be, because they imagine their true ELO to be what they'd end up with if they got to play their best champion/role every single game.
Solo queue being what it is, I rarely get my first or even second choice role. I'm not a rounded enough player to consistently win my team the game with every role. Hence I'm stuck in gold until either I improve bot/jungle or I get a massive run of top/mid games.

People should consider ELO as a measure of their progress in all the roles they play in ranked.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 28 2012 19:45 GMT
#572
On September 29 2012 04:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:38 Alaric wrote:
I'm spectating a Ziggs and Zyra with 2-3 drings + NLR, they're each able to one shot the other one but Zyra only has to WER to kill him and it's way faster than his own spells so he blows up everytime. That lane seems so silly.


zyra's range is crap lol ziggs shoudnt be getting hit while just tossing bombs nonstop, each one that hit sis like 1/3 of zyra's hp

easy lane for ziggs

I meant the "both have good range and if one is caught (s)he's dead" makes it a really silly lane once both have enough AP. Not very fun to watch (well the Ziggs isn't really good).

Also Morgana is a bad idea. As soon as you go into draft mode she's permabanned.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 19:53:12
September 28 2012 19:48 GMT
#573
On September 29 2012 04:45 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:38 Alaric wrote:
I'm spectating a Ziggs and Zyra with 2-3 drings + NLR, they're each able to one shot the other one but Zyra only has to WER to kill him and it's way faster than his own spells so he blows up everytime. That lane seems so silly.


zyra's range is crap lol ziggs shoudnt be getting hit while just tossing bombs nonstop, each one that hit sis like 1/3 of zyra's hp

easy lane for ziggs

I meant the "both have good range and if one is caught (s)he's dead" makes it a really silly lane once both have enough AP. Not very fun to watch (well the Ziggs isn't really good).

Also Morgana is a bad idea. As soon as you go into draft mode she's permabanned.


You just described every mid lane. If you do something stupid and get caught you're going to die to like 95% of the champions who go mid.

I didn't realize people were still permabanning Morg. I figured with the addition of Rengar to the "must ban always" list that Morg wasn't banned as frequently. At least, I don't see Morgana banned as often.

edit:
Yeah, Morgana isn't even in the top ten of champion bans for NA in the past week. I think people are getting over banning her.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 20:08:03
September 28 2012 19:55 GMT
#574
The only game I didn't see Morg banned recently was one where I was first pick and forced the opposing team to ban other stuff (Rengar Alistar Malphite) and I never ban her, so...
From 1150 to 1420 Elo, and in my draft normals where I estimate my Elo around 1500+, she's always been permabanned for almost a full year now.

As for midlane, I guess that playing stuff like Ryze, Viktor, Orianna or Swain doesn't help me 100-0 people (as in I have to poke them first, then catch them with almost all those champs, or in Viktor's/Swain's cases, chase them so my ult finishes them off).

Well that game just finished, Ziggs' team had the advantage at one point but Ziggs got instagibbed everyfight while Zyra only has to spam W somewhere near the enemy team then cast her spells on hit to do as many damage than a regular AP carry (over time). They played it smart tho and laid several traps with Blitz, Zyra and one or more of the rest in a bush, instagibbing the first one to come near then forcing an objective.

I'm pretty pissed to see that Zyra's even "worse" than Brand in the "I don't care if you kill me in 2s, because I'll cast all my spells in that window and be useful" while having more sustained damage, burst, utility and, above all, range than him. You can't catch a Zyra, unless she facechecks your team, she'll always see it coming and kill somebody or put several at half-health without breaking a sweat. Stupid ult range and passive.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
September 28 2012 19:56 GMT
#575
I hit 1153 Elo(Silver with new system) two days ago and I'm sure that's where I belong at the moment (I've been down to 700 Elo as well). Back when I started ranked I think 800-900 Elo was where I belonged because I was damn terrible. Now I'm better but my decision making still sucks and thus I belong where I am but I know I'm improving step by step.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 28 2012 20:03 GMT
#576
On September 29 2012 04:55 Alaric wrote:
The only game I didn't see Morg banned recently was one where I was first pick and forced the opposing team to ban other stuff (Rengar Alistar Malphite) and I never ban her, so...
From 1150 to 1420 Elo, and in my draft normals where I estimate my Elo around 1500+, she's always been permabanned for almost a full year now.

As for midlane, I guess that playing stuff like Ryze, Viktor, Orianna or Swain doesn't help me 100-0 people (as in I have to poke them first, then catch them with almost all those champs, or in Viktor's/Swain's cases, chase them so my ult finishes them off).


Man, I miss old Orianna. Back when you could 100-0 just about any mid if you had ignite up post-6. I don't think I've played Orianna in months, how low do you get a mid when you full combo them now?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 20:10:22
September 28 2012 20:09 GMT
#577
Dunno, depends on the mid. Remember that back then people didn't run 42 MR or more (I've seen quite a lot of 48-49 MR setups the last 3 days). I probably 65-0 them or something like that when I'm not behind, could probably be closer to 75-0 if I was able to fit in more autos and/or improve my positioning to make sure I can damage them with E too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
September 28 2012 20:12 GMT
#578
On September 29 2012 05:03 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:55 Alaric wrote:
The only game I didn't see Morg banned recently was one where I was first pick and forced the opposing team to ban other stuff (Rengar Alistar Malphite) and I never ban her, so...
From 1150 to 1420 Elo, and in my draft normals where I estimate my Elo around 1500+, she's always been permabanned for almost a full year now.

As for midlane, I guess that playing stuff like Ryze, Viktor, Orianna or Swain doesn't help me 100-0 people (as in I have to poke them first, then catch them with almost all those champs, or in Viktor's/Swain's cases, chase them so my ult finishes them off).


Man, I miss old Orianna. Back when you could 100-0 just about any mid if you had ignite up post-6. I don't think I've played Orianna in months, how low do you get a mid when you full combo them now?


I think if you manage to hit like two QW when harassing you can go all-in after that.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 28 2012 20:12 GMT
#579
Bug is a Fun Mid. First fun champ in ever.
/continues not reading thread.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 28 2012 20:13 GMT
#580
I actually hate Rengar + Khax ALOT. One because its still very new. And rengar because it can go invisible and bypass wards. Or can just come from behind invisible, and make a gank before i can react.
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