EPTso i've ahri , morgana , diana , orianna.
anyone nice enough to give me a brief overview on the advantages of each?
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kaykaykay
Singapore637 Posts
so i've ahri , morgana , diana , orianna. anyone nice enough to give me a brief overview on the advantages of each? | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
Morgana: Aoe CC Diana : Assassin Orianna: Utility bot 3000 | ||
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bmn
886 Posts
On September 29 2012 04:11 azndsh wrote: Whatever, you could perhaps suggest a better alternative than the mean. I don't think it's that terrible of an assumption, especially when the difference is small. Making helpful suggestions to other players affects your "true elo" and thus is already factored in. I don't know what the right way to calculate win rates is, that's why I don't throw out any numbers. We know that the mean isn't correct, we have no idea how much using the mean skews the numbers, so there's no reason to think the numbers are meaningful. If you look any records of people who were smurfing at much lower ELOs (and not trolling), you'll see that the typical win/loss ratios look completely different from what your numbers suggest. They won almost all games, not just 2/3. Edit: Random examples: Cruzerthebruzer went 65-2 from 200-1.1k ELO; his main was ~2.1k at the time. That win rate would be nigh-impossible using your numbers. (He took it all the way to 1900 ELO, there's a spreadsheet with results. He often played rather trolly builds, too.) The other fully documented example I found is a guy ("IRyzeForNidalee") going 99-21 from 400 to 1400 ELO; his main was ~1400 at the time. This is also a far, far higher win rate than your numbers would ever produce. (It's also all the way to his true ELO; he was doing much better than 5-1 before he approached 1400 ELO.) | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
Pretty damn good. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
All three are pretty good, but Ahri is probably the best all-around. She has no unwinnable matchups and is great at roaming, and is never banned. Akali, when she does well, she does really well, but some lanes are just gonna get her stomped every time. (damn you swaaaaaaaiiiin!) She has the added benefit of being able to go top lane, though. Diana's also pretty safe and probably the best roamer of the bunch, but I don't think she's as relevant as Ahri is later in the game since she has to get in melee range to do most of her damage and doesn't have a proper escape. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On September 29 2012 05:36 Terranasaur wrote: First impressions of Scyther: Pretty damn good. I actually think he's stronger in the jungle than in lane. 100% summoner blown early on in the game with a leap gank, and if the laner has any CC, almost every gank is going to be converted. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Wish that were possible for TL (was possible for BW...) though I honestly can't even say which team I want to win. I think mostly I just want good games. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
How on earth is he so good at AD carry?! 11-1-2 by the 14th minute :O | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On September 29 2012 06:05 Praetorial wrote: Aphromoo just got a triple kill in a 3v1 between enemy team and their tower. How on earth is he so good at AD carry?! 11-1-2 by the 14th minute :O afro cow too stronk | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
We have decided at this time that Westrice will continue to be a main starter on Team Curse. In that same vein we are also very excited to announce that Salce will be joining Team Curse. He will start off as a non-starter, however with that being said we feel it is important to give Salce LAN experience with the team and because of this, Salce will be playing WEM in Hangzhou on October 22nd – October 26th. After this time, Salce will continue to practice and participate as an active member of the team. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
Diana to abuse | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On September 28 2012 16:35 Caphe wrote: Yeah, I think so too. The best they can do is doing well in group but thats about it. But we'll never know. Last year World Champion was Fnatic and look where they are now -_-. Damn, TPA really DID win the lottery when they did the seeding-lottery, then. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14047 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 29 2012 06:35 Sermokala wrote: Who is salce replacing then? The bench, I think. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On September 29 2012 06:35 Sermokala wrote: Who is salce replacing then? S3 is going to require teams to have a sub iirc. So they needed a sub anyways and Salce can fill top lane or mid lane. Plus he already was living with them. So they might as well pick him up. If they replaced (or still replace) Salce with Westrice it's likely they'll keep Westrice on the roster as a sub too. | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
On September 29 2012 03:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: having perosnally experienced 1.0k to 1.7k they all feel the same the only thing different is that once you hit a new medal tier you get more rage. ie 1400s -> im silver im so much better htan this bronze scrubs im messiah 1500s-> shit im gold im in TOP THREE PERCENT OF LEAGUE PLAYERS IN THE WORLD bow down to meeeee so a lot more rage around those 2 numbers rest is all the same Oh god, this is the single most amusing part of smurfing. | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
On September 29 2012 05:33 bmn wrote: I don't know what the right way to calculate win rates is, that's why I don't throw out any numbers. We know that the mean isn't correct, we have no idea how much using the mean skews the numbers, so there's no reason to think the numbers are meaningful. If you look any records of people who were smurfing at much lower ELOs (and not trolling), you'll see that the typical win/loss ratios look completely different from what your numbers suggest. They won almost all games, not just 2/3. Edit: Random examples: Cruzerthebruzer went 65-2 from 200-1.1k ELO; his main was ~2.1k at the time. That win rate would be nigh-impossible using your numbers. (He took it all the way to 1900 ELO, there's a spreadsheet with results. He often played rather trolly builds, too.) The other fully documented example I found is a guy ("IRyzeForNidalee") going 99-21 from 400 to 1400 ELO; his main was ~1400 at the time. This is also a far, far higher win rate than your numbers would ever produce. (It's also all the way to his true ELO; he was doing much better than 5-1 before he approached 1400 ELO.) Ok I'll concede that for big disparities that taking the mean isn't particularly meaningful. A difference of 100-200 should be fine. The other issue is that we really have no idea what their denominator is in their elo formula (assumed its the standard 400. Is a 1600 vs 1200 team really a 10:1 favorite?) In any case, the point is that a 100-200 point advantage means you don't actually change the result of games all that often. So rarely that it's not really noticeable without carefully looking at a whole lot of data points and not even statistically distinguishable from luck for small sample sizes. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
Evelynn is the champ you are looking for - she is the best at roaming and quite good at farming too. And she is cheap. | ||
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