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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 16 2012 02:28 GMT
#3701
On October 16 2012 11:12 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 10:58 Requizen wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
Just like 'Real' is?

real

real terror

dat some next level terror.
liftlift > tsm
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
October 16 2012 02:38 GMT
#3702
On October 16 2012 10:59 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 10:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
Just like 'Real' is?

that ive never understood, something bad happens and they're like
real

In that context it is a compression of "did that really just happen?".
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 16 2012 02:54 GMT
#3703
On October 16 2012 11:38 Bwaaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 10:59 arb wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
Just like 'Real' is?

that ive never understood, something bad happens and they're like
real

In that context it is a compression of "did that really just happen?".

real
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2012 02:56 GMT
#3704
On October 16 2012 11:54 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 11:38 Bwaaaa wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:59 arb wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
Just like 'Real' is?

that ive never understood, something bad happens and they're like
real

In that context it is a compression of "did that really just happen?".

real

terror
It's your boy Guzma!
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 16 2012 02:58 GMT
#3705
Found out what destroys ap midalee: tristana (AP or AD) or caitlyn, doesn't matter. AA range is too long to harass with auto attack early, so she can harass all day long
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2012 03:12 GMT
#3706
I find humor in the fact that the championship skin was Riven, yet she only saw one game in the tournament.
It's your boy Guzma!
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 16 2012 03:12 GMT
#3707
On October 16 2012 11:58 IMoperator wrote:
Found out what destroys ap midalee: tristana (AP or AD) or caitlyn, doesn't matter. AA range is too long to harass with auto attack early, so she can harass all day long

Trist's range isn't that great early on. But yes. Cait destroys too many champions.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2012 03:20 GMT
#3708
Also, I hate to be one of those "a skin made me play a champ" people, but the championship Riven really revitalized my love for this champ.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
October 16 2012 03:20 GMT
#3709
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-free-champion-rotation-season-two-week-47

ez corki gp kennen leona voil and kha free this week. sheer madness for the double exp weekend coming up.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 16 2012 03:24 GMT
#3710
So... since Froggen's been playing lee sin mid for a while now... and succeeding with it even though he misses most of his Q's even the easy ones, I think we can say the meta isn't really that unbreakable right now.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 16 2012 03:42 GMT
#3711
I posted this in the S2 WC thread. Gonna repost it here since it's probably more relevant.

Incoming jungle changes for S3. Supposed to be a revert of S2 jungle changes to something between S1 jungle and S2 jungle.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30259813#30259813
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 16 2012 03:42 GMT
#3712
rofl Maknoon's stream is hilarious
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 16 2012 03:44 GMT
#3713
On October 16 2012 11:38 Bwaaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 10:59 arb wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
Just like 'Real' is?

that ive never understood, something bad happens and they're like
real

In that context it is a compression of "did that really just happen?".

In part. It's also a brief expression of existential doubt, the uncertainty that what just happened was real. A portrait of a man coming to grips with the ugly truths that reality holds. A desire for an existence beyond the banal and dissapointing world that we share in.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9827 Posts
October 16 2012 03:58 GMT
#3714
On October 16 2012 12:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So... since Froggen's been playing lee sin mid for a while now... and succeeding with it even though he misses most of his Q's even the easy ones, I think we can say the meta isn't really that unbreakable right now.

Most people in this thread will agree that things like tryn, fiora, lee sin, or jarvan mid are all super viable and potentially strong. Problem is aps that can survive the long lane are limited in selection.
boomer hands
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 16 2012 04:00 GMT
#3715
why is theoddone's elo so low? after watching aphromoo cruise through 2600's i look to TOO stream and see he's at low 2200's and making bad plays (and kicking himself for them). he plays almost purely junglers and does seem to be trying to make good plays. i've heard that some pros purposely keep their elo in a range that'll keep queue times low but im really doubting that's the case for TOO. i feel like i've been deceived by the hype of his viewer count, his nickname of the General, and the hype of TSM, into thinking he's a better player than he is. i can only guess he has a lot of knowledge that doesnt apply to solo queue, but i question his ability to understand the game if he cant master solo queue as well, especially as a jungler, a role which has so many decisions to make, thus so many opportunities to make superior decisions
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 16 2012 04:08 GMT
#3716
On October 16 2012 12:12 Requizen wrote:
I find humor in the fact that the championship skin was Riven, yet she only saw one game in the tournament.

My crystal ball says it is a premature champ skin for winning "most benefited by item overhaul."

New Riven build op.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 04:18:50
October 16 2012 04:17 GMT
#3717
On October 16 2012 13:00 Liquid`NonY wrote:
why is theoddone's elo so low? after watching aphromoo cruise through 2600's i look to TOO stream and see he's at low 2200's and making bad plays (and kicking himself for them). he plays almost purely junglers and does seem to be trying to make good plays. i've heard that some pros purposely keep their elo in a range that'll keep queue times low but im really doubting that's the case for TOO. i feel like i've been deceived by the hype of his viewer count, his nickname of the General, and the hype of TSM, into thinking he's a better player than he is. i can only guess he has a lot of knowledge that doesnt apply to solo queue, but i question his ability to understand the game if he cant master solo queue as well, especially as a jungler, a role which has so many decisions to make, thus so many opportunities to make superior decisions

Look like he's gained 100-150 Elo, then.

He typically does AWFUL in anything but the jungler role and he's extremely stubborn with 2-3x gp10 builds that leave him really weak in midgame fights, even when his team is geared around that being their strong point. There's lot of little things he does, but those are some common themes.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 04:27:26
October 16 2012 04:23 GMT
#3718
On October 16 2012 13:00 Liquid`NonY wrote:
why is theoddone's elo so low? after watching aphromoo cruise through 2600's i look to TOO stream and see he's at low 2200's and making bad plays (and kicking himself for them). he plays almost purely junglers and does seem to be trying to make good plays. i've heard that some pros purposely keep their elo in a range that'll keep queue times low but im really doubting that's the case for TOO. i feel like i've been deceived by the hype of his viewer count, his nickname of the General, and the hype of TSM, into thinking he's a better player than he is. i can only guess he has a lot of knowledge that doesnt apply to solo queue, but i question his ability to understand the game if he cant master solo queue as well, especially as a jungler, a role which has so many decisions to make, thus so many opportunities to make superior decisions

ehhhh

mechanics are mostly what get you through high elo solo queue (by playing strong lane heroes or mechanically intensive carry junglers like olaf or our recent releases). one doesn't need to be a mechanical player to be a great player, plenty of other junglers with mediocre mechanical skill remain at a competitive level (hotshot comes to mind) through superior game sense or exceptional synergy with another player (in oddone's case, regi). the skills oddone has aren't that valuable in solo queue but extremely valuable in a coordinated team environment.

also he sometimes just screws around in solo queue to entertain the viewers, if he tryharded all the time and only played his best heroes he could easily get into the higher elos (he's done it before).

edit: also to address the last sentence of your post, almost all of those decisions are more or less reliant on your team. when oddone's playing with regi they may as well be one person but in solo queue there's much less coordination between players which can pretty easily skewer the judgement of a team-reliant player like oddone.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
October 16 2012 04:42 GMT
#3719
On October 16 2012 13:23 Xevious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 13:00 Liquid`NonY wrote:
why is theoddone's elo so low? after watching aphromoo cruise through 2600's i look to TOO stream and see he's at low 2200's and making bad plays (and kicking himself for them). he plays almost purely junglers and does seem to be trying to make good plays. i've heard that some pros purposely keep their elo in a range that'll keep queue times low but im really doubting that's the case for TOO. i feel like i've been deceived by the hype of his viewer count, his nickname of the General, and the hype of TSM, into thinking he's a better player than he is. i can only guess he has a lot of knowledge that doesnt apply to solo queue, but i question his ability to understand the game if he cant master solo queue as well, especially as a jungler, a role which has so many decisions to make, thus so many opportunities to make superior decisions

edit: also to address the last sentence of your post, almost all of those decisions are more or less reliant on your team. when oddone's playing with regi they may as well be one person but in solo queue there's much less coordination between players which can pretty easily skewer the judgement of a team-reliant player like oddone.

I've found this to be the most difficult part of jungling in solo queue. If your lane doesn't follow up properly on your gank or maintain the position of the creeps in lane to allow for a gank or help cover you when you counter jungle or come help when the enemy's counter-jungling you, or ward properly or.....

When you play jungle, you're pretty reliant on your teammates doing intelligent things or at least being on the same wavelength as you. If there not, a lot of stupidity can ensue. This is particularly the case when you're playing a more supporty jungle (eg, Maokai, Nunu, etc.) where they're not going to carry late.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 16 2012 04:53 GMT
#3720
On October 16 2012 13:00 Liquid`NonY wrote:
why is theoddone's elo so low? after watching aphromoo cruise through 2600's i look to TOO stream and see he's at low 2200's and making bad plays (and kicking himself for them). he plays almost purely junglers and does seem to be trying to make good plays. i've heard that some pros purposely keep their elo in a range that'll keep queue times low but im really doubting that's the case for TOO. i feel like i've been deceived by the hype of his viewer count, his nickname of the General, and the hype of TSM, into thinking he's a better player than he is. i can only guess he has a lot of knowledge that doesnt apply to solo queue, but i question his ability to understand the game if he cant master solo queue as well, especially as a jungler, a role which has so many decisions to make, thus so many opportunities to make superior decisions

All pro player's elo took hits while they were practicing for World Championships. They stopped streaming and solo queuing for a good 2 weeks, then that entire week for wold championships. So 3 weeks of no solo queing, I'm pretty sure ELO decays, right? Plus all the pros have times where they troll their ELO down so they can get reasonable queue times. Not everyone wants to be ForellenLord.
liftlift > tsm
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