[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 178

On October 15 2012 20:19 Nikon wrote:
One of the people I've queued against has a "honourable opponent" ribbon in champion select atm. Wat do.

On October 15 2012 20:19 Nikon wrote:
One of the people I've queued against has a "honourable opponent" ribbon in champion select atm. Wat do.

On October 15 2012 20:33 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I dont get the honoursystem anyway.

Ive played about 40 games on it, I play proper, usually win my lane and try my best, never troll never flame. Ive gotten about 5 helpfulls and 3 teamworks. 0 honourable opponent.
Then I felt a little devil may care and went some trollpicks for about 5 games, got stomped and received 9 honourable opponents, 12 helpfulls and a few friendles and teamworks...

On October 15 2012 20:41 Slow Motion wrote:
I find you are more likely to get honorable opponent if you were stomping while your team was failing. Supposing that you don't rage and shit-talk after you lose.

On October 15 2012 02:25 Liquid`NonY wrote:

You can pick based on your lane matchup and based on 5v5 team fights. Vayne is weakest early in lane, and can get focused hard by bruisers in team fights, but will carry hard if she can stay even in farm and not die immediately in team fights. Caitlyn is strong in lane because she can push and harass while staying at long range, and be protected from ganks with traps and net, and she can similarly use these skills in team fights and be very hard to kill. But if she doesn't have strong farm, she doesn't do any damage and can be ignored. Draven is a good default, all-around good pick. He can trade well in lane, and fight really really well in lane, and he stays strong going into late game.

So based on just your lane, you can think things like this: If your lane partner and lane opponents and their jungle make you want to get kills in lane, pick Draven. That as if you aren't afraid of their jungle and you know that if you pick Draven you can win 2v2 fights in bot, then pick Draven. If you're not comfortable fighting in lane, and you think their jungle is gonna mess with you a lot, and you just wanna try to win your lane safely, pick Caitlyn. If you feel you got stronger jungle and mid help, or you just feel like you can farm well anyway because of bot lane picks, pick Vayne.

You can predict their jungler's likelihoods based on how you think the other lanes are gonna go (if they are gonna be more enticing for jungler action than bot), what jungle pattern is gonna be used, and how strong the ganks are pre and post 6.

If you want to pick Vayne you need to figure out whether you might survive longer and do more damage in team fights by picking someone else with better escapes and kiting and range. If Vayne wants to do significant damage, she has to be in pretty close range for a few seconds because all her damage is from autoattacks and her autoattack range is short and she can't switch targets very often. Well you can switch targets or just run away, and you will when you have to, but if you do it too much then why pick Vayne at all, you gotta pop those W's or pick someone else. Draven can ult, use E and throw 1-2 axes at longer range than all that (catching axes might be dangerous), and Cait can do everything at good range, but Vayne gets in close for everything and only has one knockback to help her.

On October 15 2012 20:59 Numy wrote:
That pull range looks huge oO

On October 15 2012 20:59 Numy wrote:
That pull range looks huge oO

On October 15 2012 02:25 Liquid`NonY wrote:
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You can pick based on your lane matchup and based on 5v5 team fights. Vayne is weakest early in lane, and can get focused hard by bruisers in team fights, but will carry hard if she can stay even in farm and not die immediately in team fights. Caitlyn is strong in lane because she can push and harass while staying at long range, and be protected from ganks with traps and net, and she can similarly use these skills in team fights and be very hard to kill. But if she doesn't have strong farm, she doesn't do any damage and can be ignored. Draven is a good default, all-around good pick. He can trade well in lane, and fight really really well in lane, and he stays strong going into late game.

So based on just your lane, you can think things like this: If your lane partner and lane opponents and their jungle make you want to get kills in lane, pick Draven. That as if you aren't afraid of their jungle and you know that if you pick Draven you can win 2v2 fights in bot, then pick Draven. If you're not comfortable fighting in lane, and you think their jungle is gonna mess with you a lot, and you just wanna try to win your lane safely, pick Caitlyn. If you feel you got stronger jungle and mid help, or you just feel like you can farm well anyway because of bot lane picks, pick Vayne.

You can predict their jungler's likelihoods based on how you think the other lanes are gonna go (if they are gonna be more enticing for jungler action than bot), what jungle pattern is gonna be used, and how strong the ganks are pre and post 6.

If you want to pick Vayne you need to figure out whether you might survive longer and do more damage in team fights by picking someone else with better escapes and kiting and range. If Vayne wants to do significant damage, she has to be in pretty close range for a few seconds because all her damage is from autoattacks and her autoattack range is short and she can't switch targets very often. Well you can switch targets or just run away, and you will when you have to, but if you do it too much then why pick Vayne at all, you gotta pop those W's or pick someone else. Draven can ult, use E and throw 1-2 axes at longer range than all that (catching axes might be dangerous), and Cait can do everything at good range, but Vayne gets in close for everything and only has one knockback to help her.


Incredibly helpfull post, thanks a ton! (Jesus I play too much LoL. Reading it back it sounds sarcastic b/c i'm used to LoL chat ^^ but be assured its genuine)

On October 15 2012 21:49 cascades wrote:
I was playing on my local server yesterday and I always got impaled when I flashed. Bad luck or it can be done consistently.

On October 15 2012 21:52 JackDino wrote:
I wish I had 6 bans I'd ban out every ad carry or support just for fun.

Can't escape from Impale, you have to flash away before you're in impale range, because once you're in Impale range you get stung anyways.

On October 15 2012 16:32 BlackPaladin wrote:
I know aphro has built it on ezreal in certain situations (not sure what those are though lol), but it was very rare and it was the only champ i've seen him build it on.