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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
October 15 2012 03:05 GMT
#3481
Play jungle Jax, really really strong, you can carry from the jungle, most balanced jungle kit in the game

Short CD nuke for burst and clear
Free AS passive owns in jungle
creep damage mitigation
stun
awesome gap closer that can escape too

Triforce all day
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
October 15 2012 03:06 GMT
#3482
Why not learn shaco?

Imo it's fairly important to learn these niche junglers as a jungle main so you aren't thrown off guard by their antics.
boomer hands
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
October 15 2012 03:12 GMT
#3483
On October 15 2012 12:00 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:57 Simberto wrote:
On October 15 2012 11:39 Diamond wrote:
On October 15 2012 11:38 Sermokala wrote:
amumumu? Best cc spell in the game and double drings makes him a wicked ganker. Olaf can get constant slows on his axe if he manages to keep grabing it from the ground.


I just love giving as many blues away as possible to mid and ammu needs several, but you are right I NEED to learn him.


What, no. Amumu is just fine with only the first blue. Without the first blue its rather annoying, but that is true for pretty much any jungler with mana. I'd say skarner is more blue dependent then amumu after the first one, and he is fine with giving away the second blue too. Sure, its nice to get more, but you are not dependent on those. Basically, take more if you have a nonmana champ mid, or one that does not care about blue for some reason. Just build either Philo or 2 dorans rings, and recall from time to time, and you are fine. Blue just allows you to jump around the jungle like crazy with q, but that is not really necessary.


Cool, I must just be too used to these shitty ammu's that want the first 2-3 blues saying ammu cant jungle without it. Either way, an very obvious hole in my jungle roster that needs to be fixed.


Philo stone with slightly conservative mana usage and you should be fine all the time. Then just go gank Press R -> Q -> collect money.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#3484
I've seen Amumu players use a very gank heavy style from 3 (sometimes even 2) to 5 and have a lot of success with it. I know Amumu's damage is kinda terror once he has red buff to keep his passive up and have W and E do the trick, but w/o red or against champs that are hard to stick too it you're forced to used Q to initiate the gank, isn't it hard? He sure is nice with a Malph, Ryze or another laner that allows you to walk up to your target and apply red to them.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 15 2012 03:23 GMT
#3485
Krepo's stream, l0l.
He's a better jungler than hotshot and he never even plays jungle like, ever lololol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11928 Posts
October 15 2012 03:33 GMT
#3486
On October 15 2012 12:21 Alaric wrote:
I've seen Amumu players use a very gank heavy style from 3 (sometimes even 2) to 5 and have a lot of success with it. I know Amumu's damage is kinda terror once he has red buff to keep his passive up and have W and E do the trick, but w/o red or against champs that are hard to stick too it you're forced to used Q to initiate the gank, isn't it hard? He sure is nice with a Malph, Ryze or another laner that allows you to walk up to your target and apply red to them.


I nearly always use q to initiate a gank. In general, it is pretty hard reaching people by just running at them. Without red OR ult up, you have problems sticking to stuff. If you have either one of these, it's not really a problem anymore unless they use flash or a similar skill. Your laner should do something during this time, too, so q + r gives them enough time to close the gap and apply their own cc or damage. Usually, when you have your ult up, you can pretty much guarantee a kill on nearly anything. If you don't have r yet, your ability to get kills depends on a lot of factors, like your laner, their escapes, do they still have flash up, etc.... If you can get to them without using q, sure, do it. But that rarely happens. Red is very useful for getting kills of course.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 03:43:04
October 15 2012 03:36 GMT
#3487
Yeah, I mean I see Amumu(s) apply monstruous pressure from ganking a lot (not Maokai-"a lot", but still) even before 6, and that's what leaves me troubled, since I can't manage to do it effectively and end up taking the free kills but mainly rushing my level 6 when jungling mummy (or just getting a quick DFG and gibbing people when jungling him in normals).

Krepo maxes W first on mumu, hm... I'd go EWEQ (or earlier Q if I need to gank), then leveling both Q and E at the same time, for burst/cd on Q, and farming damage/reduc on E.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 15 2012 03:43 GMT
#3488
I'm actually quite amazed at when I was just starting to learn how to jungle, how many times I've gotten/given First Blood by just going Ali and starting red if i spawn right side. Don't think I've ever failed unless my top is retarded/misstep. Pretty sure he's gotta have the strongest lvl 2 gank in the game no?
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Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
October 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#3489
On October 15 2012 12:43 sung_moon wrote:
I'm actually quite amazed at when I was just starting to learn how to jungle, how many times I've gotten/given First Blood by just going Ali and starting red if i spawn right side. Don't think I've ever failed unless my top is retarded/misstep. Pretty sure he's gotta have the strongest lvl 2 gank in the game no?


I'd argue for that. I'd also say Shaco is very close to him because of his stupid good damage. Speaking of that little clown-fucker, I fucking love Shaco in normals. Not sure if I want to try him in ranked though.
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
October 15 2012 04:01 GMT
#3490
Is anyone getting an endless patch ?
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 15 2012 04:12 GMT
#3491
Shaco's lvl 2 has more damage, while ali's has more cc. If your laner has damage to followup, then ali's lvl 2 would be "stronger" for that situation, while if they had cc and need damage, shaco would be better.

@alaric
It's just funny to me that a support player like krepo, instead of being like hotshot who camps a lane for a minute while his jungle minions have a picnic since they're not being slaughtered, actually farms the jungle. Then he ganks to apply pressure or help lanes where needed. That just tells me he has more understanding of the game lol
I will never forget hotshot going 0-8-2 as udyr in 15 mins and saying he's doing "so much for his team" when he's being outfarmed by like, maokai.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
October 15 2012 04:35 GMT
#3492
I feel stupid asking this but what is the LiquidParty? Is it just a chatroom?
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ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
October 15 2012 04:38 GMT
#3493
Yes, it is a chat room
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 15 2012 04:46 GMT
#3494
On October 15 2012 13:35 tokicheese wrote:
I feel stupid asking this but what is the LiquidParty? Is it just a chatroom?


It is the cumulation of all good things known to men.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
October 15 2012 04:51 GMT
#3495
Since we're getting to the end of the season, lets talk about some of our personal stats.

If you go to your ranked stats tab, at the filter by champion section, on the far left side it says 'Wins with X/105 Champions'.

What is your X?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11928 Posts
October 15 2012 05:00 GMT
#3496
Please don't. This will just lead to pages upon pages of people posting those stats because they think they are interesting, and noone at all caring about them, or even looking at them really, while destroying any other debate.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 05:01:20
October 15 2012 05:00 GMT
#3497
52/105. Over twice my season 1 lol.

On October 15 2012 14:00 Simberto wrote:
Please don't. This will just lead to pages upon pages of people posting those stats because they think they are interesting, and noone at all caring about them, or even looking at them really, while destroying any other debate.

Soo... a poll?
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 15 2012 05:15 GMT
#3498
On October 15 2012 13:46 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 13:35 tokicheese wrote:
I feel stupid asking this but what is the LiquidParty? Is it just a chatroom?


It is the cumulation of all good things known to men.


Typically, it is empty.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 15 2012 05:24 GMT
#3499
On October 15 2012 14:15 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 13:46 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:35 tokicheese wrote:
I feel stupid asking this but what is the LiquidParty? Is it just a chatroom?


It is the cumulation of all good things known to men.


Typically, it is empty.


Supposedly the EU one is pretty active from what i heard?
But yeah the NA one is filled with people who never talk (like i'm only in it cause the darn thing autojoins me no matter if i deselect autojoin or not) or do not even know what TL is lolol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
October 15 2012 05:28 GMT
#3500
On October 15 2012 11:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:20 Diamond wrote:
So after jungling alot of games I have seem to found my best champ with Maokai. I'm like 78% winrate (low sample size obv). What other champs have tons of solid CC like him? I find at low elo's (I suck) that champs like SHyv that often my teammates are slow to engage the gank and the opponent gets away frequently. With Mao its like they have multiple chances to fuck it up and sitll get the kill.

Any suggestions?

Champs I currently know how to jungle:
Nocturne
Nunu
Maokai
Shyvanna
Kha'Zix
Rammus
Diana
Fiddle (not a fan)
Lee Sin (I'm terribad with him)
Warwick
Skarner
Udyr

Skarner
Learn Amumu


I definitely second amumu, mummy so stronk after first clear, especially if youre good at landing your q's, also i highly suggest you work on lee sin, he definitely takes time to learn but imo, its well worth it.
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