EPTThink Graves top and something like Panth/Jarv bottom. Obviously not an ideal situation and the meta at high level I'm sure will fuck it up in one way or another (and not that I feel like figuring out how or why, but I'm sure it's true because pros said so amirite). If the two of them share farm it seems more ideal in that case than giving it all to one or the other as each of them will be able to pick up various small items on their way to bigger ones, further cementing their terror in lane against the poor AD/support.
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Think Graves top and something like Panth/Jarv bottom. Obviously not an ideal situation and the meta at high level I'm sure will fuck it up in one way or another (and not that I feel like figuring out how or why, but I'm sure it's true because pros said so amirite). If the two of them share farm it seems more ideal in that case than giving it all to one or the other as each of them will be able to pick up various small items on their way to bigger ones, further cementing their terror in lane against the poor AD/support. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 25 2012 03:39 TheKefka wrote: I don't understand why people get gp/10 items on stuff like blitz,leona,alistar,etc.Last time I checked those supports are meant to kill people and not stand afk in a bush with a philo stone,waiting to get a lucky hook or whatever.I see people time and time again hording gold items when you can just stack dorans and stomp your lane,while having more wards in lane than you would have with buying gold items. Because if Leona + AD carry know what they're doing they can get them and wreck shit anyway. | ||
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kongoline
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 25 2012 03:50 kongoline wrote: can sombody write generic timers when to expect jungler ganking top assuming standard rout, wriaths+red >lvl2 gank or red + blue> lvl3 gank, i used to know this but after playing mid so for so long i just forgot. always... they are always there  | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
I'm pretty sure some junglers, a few XP short of level 3, get lizard down to around half health and then go "WELL I THINK I'LL GANK TOP NOW" and head directly there. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 25 2012 03:59 Flakes wrote: I'm pretty sure some junglers, a few XP short of level 3, get lizard down to around half health and then go "WELL I THINK I'LL GANK TOP NOW" and head directly there. dude, I know they do, uhg, top lane's the worst, I'm just gonna play AP Teemo mid from now on. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
not sure what he's thinking though going tabis, sunfire cape, force of nature and 3 dorans shields. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On September 25 2012 04:02 AsnSensation wrote: lol i had hotshot's stream in the background and he was playing full metal rammus and with the skinsounds i thought they decided to work @ a construction site at 9 pm not sure what he's thinking though going tabis, sunfire cape, force of nature and 3 dorans shields. Gotta have dat armour. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
As long as you play safe, the jungler is somewhere else. As soon as you go for that one ranged creep, or just stay for one more wave, the jungler is suddenly there. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 25 2012 04:01 Mogwai wrote: dude, I know they do, uhg, top lane's the worst, I'm just gonna play AP Teemo mid from now on. I will hate you forever | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
lies, you'll still love me. don't hate the playa, hate the game. also, it's already happening, you can check my match history :p. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On September 25 2012 03:50 kongoline wrote: can sombody write generic timers when to expect jungler ganking top assuming standard rout, wriaths+red >lvl2 gank or red + blue> lvl3 gank, i used to know this but after playing mid so for so long i just forgot. All the timings blend together in such a way that there's never a point where you are not in danger of being ganked. Until you have clear, incontrovertible evidence that the jungler is elsewhere you are not safe, you are never safe. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On September 25 2012 04:15 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Erwin Rudolf Josef Alexander Schrödinger possibly turns in his grave fixed | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 25 2012 04:13 Gahlo wrote: I call it Schodinger's Bush. The jungler is both there and not there until you put a ward in it. at which point the jungler is there with oracles and kills your ward. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 25 2012 04:19 Mogwai wrote: at which point the jungler is there with oracles and kills your ward. And then leaves to another lane. + Show Spoiler + OR DOES HE | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
On September 25 2012 03:20 TheYango wrote: Logically speaking, if farm allocation is as fluid as you say it is, then the value of gp10 is contributing to the entire team's finances, because gold earned by the carrier could be allocated elsewhere. But that means that gp10 as a stat should be equally useful to everybody, which means either everybody should be buying them (as used to be the case when we had the really OP old HoG), or it's a stat not worth buying on anyone. As it stands the logic of "only supports buy gp10" has no logical basis except for the case where farm distribution isn't as fluid as you claimed, and supports need gp10 for ward gold because teams won't give them enough farm for it. Not necessarily true even if teams allocated farm more fluidly 1) Carries want as much farm as possible, so very rarely does it make sense to give up gold to support (exceptions include getting philo stone or after carry has max items). If it were possible (such as wc3/sc2), most of the time supports would choose to transfer the gold they have to carries. 2) gp10s give inferior stats, and item strength is multiplicative. getting PD + IE on two separate champs isn't nearly as effective as getting both on the same. 3) Carries clear faster, so it costs the team more time overall to allocate farm to supports. | ||
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