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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
September 07 2012 21:38 GMT
#1941
On September 08 2012 06:28 AUGcodon wrote:
They could fix the problem by putting the majority of the funding toward their own tournament. Since this a soccer based system, there would be an end of the season tournament both for the continent and the world. If the winner of the continent tournament gets say 500k and winner of the world gets 2mil, there is still strong incentives to be the best.

If they were really douchey though, they could just give the players a bare minimum salary like 30k/year sort of the thing.


This. I imagine there would be some kind of substantial bonus for doing well (although this is probably just called "prize money")
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
September 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#1942
Chu8 pentakill with Soraka. np.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 21:44:31
September 07 2012 21:44 GMT
#1943
http://www.lolking.net/news/analyze-this-champions-that-dominate-the-meta

I wasn't aware dat Taric and Amumu winrate was so high.
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 21:47:26
September 07 2012 21:46 GMT
#1944
On September 08 2012 06:44 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/news/analyze-this-champions-that-dominate-the-meta

I wasn't aware dat Taric and Amumu winrate was so high.

amumu imo is just suuuuper strong. really ridiculous when he plays well. taric is retard proof (easy), and really strong at the same time.

just checked win% within the last day and eve is 57% winrate... fuuuuckkk
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
September 07 2012 21:47 GMT
#1945
On September 08 2012 06:46 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 06:44 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/news/analyze-this-champions-that-dominate-the-meta

I wasn't aware dat Taric and Amumu winrate was so high.

amumu imo is just suuuuper strong. really ridiculous when he plays well. taric is retard proof (easy), and really strong at the same time.

Regardless, I really hope that Amumu gets nerfed. I do not want to learn how to play him, skill shots are so bloody hard. That is why the only top tier junglers I do not play are Mundo, Lee Sin, and Amumu.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 07 2012 21:49 GMT
#1946
On September 08 2012 06:47 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 06:46 wussleeQ wrote:
On September 08 2012 06:44 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/news/analyze-this-champions-that-dominate-the-meta

I wasn't aware dat Taric and Amumu winrate was so high.

amumu imo is just suuuuper strong. really ridiculous when he plays well. taric is retard proof (easy), and really strong at the same time.

Regardless, I really hope that Amumu gets nerfed. I do not want to learn how to play him, skill shots are so bloody hard. That is why the only top tier junglers I do not play are Mundo, Lee Sin, and Amumu.

He's been nerfed so many times. Only way to nerf him imo is to change his ultimate completely. No matter what you do its still going to be a bigass aoe stun
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 07 2012 21:51 GMT
#1947
I tried playing a bit more of Taric when I had to support recently and while his burst is really good is you can get to the enemy champs (and when they kind of pushed or you won a trade his heal as a really low cd if you hit minions to counterpush) I was baffled as to how to engage long range/disengage duos, for example Kog'Maw, or Janna.
Maybe I should rush boots before philo more. @_@
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
September 07 2012 21:54 GMT
#1948
Why nerf amumu? He hasn't been played recently in tournies.
AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
September 07 2012 21:55 GMT
#1949
Amumu's just a soloqueue pubstomp champ. In tourneys, he's played sometimes, but not that often. He demolishes in solo where people don't take advantage of his weak dueling early on, and then don't know how to not be clumped up. In fact, all AoE ultimates are OP as shit for solo queue, Amumu's is just the most noticeable.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 21:59:07
September 07 2012 21:55 GMT
#1950
Amumus ult isn't overpowered it's just that wombo combo champs are the best thing for solo que.
People either don't know how or don't want to or are too lazy to evade,kite,poke.All they want to do is dive head long into a fight when someone initiates and obviously the team with amumu/morgana/malphite/graves/leona ult's is going to win more frequently.
Cackle™
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 07 2012 22:00 GMT
#1951
On September 08 2012 06:55 TheKefka wrote:
Amumus ult isn't overpowered it's just that wombo combo champs are the best thing for solo que.
People either don't know how or don't want to or are too lazy to evade,kite,poke.All they want to do is dive head long into a fight when someone initiates and obviously the team with amumu/morgana/malphite/graves/leona ult's is going to win more frequently.


Only if it gets to team fight stages. You can lose games without having a single team fight, and in fact it happens quite often. Playing gank heavy junglers is the counter to that. It's why Shaco and Lee and Maokai and all other junglers with great ganking potential can prevent themselves from falling off by making each lane win.
Hey! How you doin'?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 07 2012 22:03 GMT
#1952
On September 08 2012 06:46 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 06:44 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.lolking.net/news/analyze-this-champions-that-dominate-the-meta

I wasn't aware dat Taric and Amumu winrate was so high.

amumu imo is just suuuuper strong. really ridiculous when he plays well. taric is retard proof (easy), and really strong at the same time.

just checked win% within the last day and eve is 57% winrate... fuuuuckkk


Eve really strong, damage is obscene. I never played old eve, but I bought new one and I cant believe people are saying she is bad... its not many junglers where I can just run in and 1v1 a laner and crush them no problem. I really like her.

Its also really enjoyable to itemize, as you have total freedom, you can go a total bruiser, AP burst assassin, and use all those cool hybrid items that you never get a chance to use but are super efficient and amazing on eve.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
September 07 2012 22:04 GMT
#1953
On September 08 2012 07:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 06:55 TheKefka wrote:
Amumus ult isn't overpowered it's just that wombo combo champs are the best thing for solo que.
People either don't know how or don't want to or are too lazy to evade,kite,poke.All they want to do is dive head long into a fight when someone initiates and obviously the team with amumu/morgana/malphite/graves/leona ult's is going to win more frequently.


Only if it gets to team fight stages. You can lose games without having a single team fight, and in fact it happens quite often. Playing gank heavy junglers is the counter to that. It's why Shaco and Lee and Maokai and all other junglers with great ganking potential can prevent themselves from falling off by making each lane win.

Mao is really good at teamfights, and Lee isn't too bad at all, not great comparisons. Shaco, sure.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 07 2012 22:06 GMT
#1954
On September 08 2012 07:04 AwayFromLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 07:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 08 2012 06:55 TheKefka wrote:
Amumus ult isn't overpowered it's just that wombo combo champs are the best thing for solo que.
People either don't know how or don't want to or are too lazy to evade,kite,poke.All they want to do is dive head long into a fight when someone initiates and obviously the team with amumu/morgana/malphite/graves/leona ult's is going to win more frequently.


Only if it gets to team fight stages. You can lose games without having a single team fight, and in fact it happens quite often. Playing gank heavy junglers is the counter to that. It's why Shaco and Lee and Maokai and all other junglers with great ganking potential can prevent themselves from falling off by making each lane win.

Mao is really good at teamfights, and Lee isn't too bad at all, not great comparisons. Shaco, sure.


Not saying Mao and Lee are bad at team fights, but there are stronger team fighting junglers (Amumu being one) that arguably never drop off. Mao might be in that category too because of his ult I suppose.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 07 2012 22:07 GMT
#1955
On September 08 2012 07:04 AwayFromLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 07:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
Only if it gets to team fight stages. You can lose games without having a single team fight, and in fact it happens quite often. Playing gank heavy junglers is the counter to that. It's why Shaco and Lee and Maokai and all other junglers with great ganking potential can prevent themselves from falling off by making each lane win.

Mao is really good at teamfights, and Lee isn't too bad at all, not great comparisons. Shaco, sure.


Amumu far surpasses Maokai for SoloQ teamfight. When Amumu ult goes off it is a huge "lol time to drop the AoE bombs on these guys" whereas Maokai ult requires your team to know how to position and fight well in it (assuming you placed it well) or you just have to be pro and place it proactively where you think your derpy team is going to drag the fight to.
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ShurykaN
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States338 Posts
September 07 2012 22:09 GMT
#1956
On September 08 2012 06:49 arb wrote:

He's been nerfed so many times. Only way to nerf him imo is to change his ultimate completely. No matter what you do its still going to be a bigass aoe stun


I don't understand this. Shouldn't there be a way to make it so he's balanced without taking away who he is? Suppose we just nerf the base damage on all his abilities until he gets a 50% win rate.

This is the same logic that Riot used when changing stealth and Heimerdinger. Instead of having unique abilities which can force the enemy team to play around you, riot took away the things which made them special. Do you really think it would be impossible for Heimerdinger to be balanced if he had three, or even more, turrets? Wouldn't it be possible to keep Amumu's ult - What makes him who he is; his personality - without having him be too powerful?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 22:21:20
September 07 2012 22:11 GMT
#1957
On September 08 2012 07:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 06:55 TheKefka wrote:
Amumus ult isn't overpowered it's just that wombo combo champs are the best thing for solo que.
People either don't know how or don't want to or are too lazy to evade,kite,poke.All they want to do is dive head long into a fight when someone initiates and obviously the team with amumu/morgana/malphite/graves/leona ult's is going to win more frequently.


Only if it gets to team fight stages. You can lose games without having a single team fight, and in fact it happens quite often. Playing gank heavy junglers is the counter to that. It's why Shaco and Lee and Maokai and all other junglers with great ganking potential can prevent themselves from falling off by making each lane win.

I don't even get whats the point of this response.I said why amumu has a high win rate and that there are ways to counter it just people don't feel like or don't know how to do it.
It's unrealistic to want to end a game before a single team fight starts,if that was so lee shaco and mao would have the highest winrates but they don't.Obviously amumu wins more for a reason.
People get shit on by amumu because they treat each team composition the same in solo que,that's the sole reason why amumu wins so much.
Another reason is because combacks are the easiest when you have these press R to win ults.
Cackle™
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
September 07 2012 22:18 GMT
#1958
Quick question to ask you guys to make sure I'm not losing my mind... is Mundo a really good late game jungler?
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 07 2012 22:22 GMT
#1959
amumu got buffed when they made QSS more expensive

man i love QSS. i feel so baller when i use it.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
September 07 2012 22:22 GMT
#1960
I'm quite sure he is.
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