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gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
August 30 2012 07:44 GMT
#121
I like the J4 change a lot, I remember I missed a lot of flag pulls because of this, I would just q the air. Gonna play some j4 (:
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
August 30 2012 08:08 GMT
#122
Hooray at the servers shutting down while I'm in a game for the tenth time... I was about a minute from getting my first win too -.-;;
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 30 2012 08:33 GMT
#123
On August 30 2012 13:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 13:03 Fuzzmosis wrote:
Chiharu, I'm still waiting for Twitch FOM.

I still love him, but you gotta remember: His harass is an auto attack and then.... another auto attack every 5 seconds or it's wasted. The mana change was definately to encourage W+E or auto attack + E harass, which still puts him behind a Graves/EZ/Ashe/MF/Trist...(You get the idea) harass, but improvements are nice, and his harassment is undodgable. I still see 2 more buffs incomming before he's no longer playing Hearts with Karma, Heimer and Sejuani.

Again, hope I'm wrong. Been waiting a year to see Twitch get played as a serious contender.


Most likely, you're going to have to wait until Season 3 before we see teams test the waters again with new champions. There's a reason why ADs have bogged down to Corkis and Ezreals, lol.

There's are plenty of "hidden" OPs atm. My votes go for Twitch, Kat, and Jayce.


/votes for varus soraka
cool beans
ninjakingcola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States405 Posts
August 30 2012 09:09 GMT
#124
The reason AD carries were (and still are) bogged down with Ez/Corki/Graves is that they do decent lategame and have incredibly easy laning phases. Oh, and of course the "OH SHIT" gapcloser/escape that makes them unkillable in fights. My vote is MF for sekrit OP Carry.
Where my demons hide? Why, if I showed you it wouldn't be a secret my dear.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 30 2012 09:12 GMT
#125
Gonna play some varus and ashe again now, although the big 3 are still totally viable it's so boring everygame l0l
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 09:35:36
August 30 2012 09:34 GMT
#126
Still calling Draven best AD carry now. Especially with Sona on the rise the burst is ridiculous. He basically has Sivir ult for zero mana and zero cooldown with Vayne ult on zero mana and zero cooldown and a little cc and globals thrown in for good measure. Pair him with Sona and you can actually just 1-shot people in lane.

Gonna get so much hate relearning Alistar combo's on smartcast at 600 range as I miss the first thousand. >_< If he ever stops being permabanned of course. Took Shaco and Kassadin like 8 months to get out of permaban status.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 30 2012 09:39 GMT
#127
Mordekaiser buff

A-HUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 30 2012 09:40 GMT
#128
I dont know, Draven is ok but I feel obliged to catch axes, its more like a game within LoL, and it gets me killed more often then it actually benefits me.

MF is terribad in teamfights vs a team where people have brains. Varus has too high cooldowns on his abilities to make full use of W in a teamfight imo
KCCO!
Altar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States577 Posts
August 30 2012 09:43 GMT
#129
On August 30 2012 16:44 gaizka wrote:
I like the J4 change a lot, I remember I missed a lot of flag pulls because of this, I would just q the air. Gonna play some j4 (:


This is the best change in the whole patch, can actually smartcast it reliably now.
Heavens to Betsy
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
August 30 2012 10:08 GMT
#130
Abyssal nerfs <3 Finally. Still good on those melee/close range AP:s, but not must build on others... Glad they nerfed the aura size, and not the stats...
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 30 2012 10:10 GMT
#131
On August 30 2012 18:40 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I dont know, Draven is ok but I feel obliged to catch axes, its more like a game within LoL, and it gets me killed more often then it actually benefits me.

MF is terribad in teamfights vs a team where people have brains. Varus has too high cooldowns on his abilities to make full use of W in a teamfight imo


Well at least MF has a slow, a steroid, and an AOE spell.... I always thought her teamfight is acceptable.... as in, you know, way better than Varus, Caitlyn, and Draven.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 30 2012 10:14 GMT
#132
On August 30 2012 19:10 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 18:40 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I dont know, Draven is ok but I feel obliged to catch axes, its more like a game within LoL, and it gets me killed more often then it actually benefits me.

MF is terribad in teamfights vs a team where people have brains. Varus has too high cooldowns on his abilities to make full use of W in a teamfight imo


Well at least MF has a slow, a steroid, and an AOE spell.... I always thought her teamfight is acceptable.... as in, you know, way better than Varus, Caitlyn, and Draven.



Can't compare cait to those 3, cus she got VERY good escape mechanics if played properly.
hi
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 30 2012 10:14 GMT
#133
varus teamfight is good!
cool beans
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
August 30 2012 10:20 GMT
#134
Regarding the unholy AD trinity:


While Ez doesn't really get nerfed (making the spell hit properly is needed) his AS debuff still remains the same and his Q mana cost goes down in exchange for a little bit of base damage on W. Ez won't be unhappy I guess.

Graves is going to miss 10% on his E, but that's not much of a deal. I guess the base damage reduction is a lot more critical since AS items scale off of base AS if I'm not mistaken.

What annoys me the most is the nerf to Corki's passive not working when critting anymore. I understand und support the W and R changes, but I get the feeling that he will miss a lot of DPS from his passive (I suck at number crunching, feel free to prove my estimation wrong).


I expect this patch to shift the momentun more towards Ez in upcoming events, comparable to the times when Graves was 1st pick very often not because he was that blatantly op anymore (after the first nerfs but before the last 2-3 nerf cycles) but rather just a tad stronger than any other AD.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 30 2012 10:24 GMT
#135
On August 30 2012 19:20 little fancy wrote:
Regarding the unholy AD trinity:


While Ez doesn't really get nerfed (making the spell hit properly is needed) his AS debuff still remains the same and his Q mana cost goes down in exchange for a little bit of base damage on W. Ez won't be unhappy I guess.

Graves is going to miss 10% on his E, but that's not much of a deal. I guess the base damage reduction is a lot more critical since AS items scale off of base AS if I'm not mistaken.

What annoys me the most is the nerf to Corki's passive not working when critting anymore. I understand und support the W and R changes, but I get the feeling that he will miss a lot of DPS from his passive (I suck at number crunching, feel free to prove my estimation wrong).


I expect this patch to shift the momentun more towards Ez in upcoming events, comparable to the times when Graves was 1st pick very often not because he was that blatantly op anymore (after the first nerfs but before the last 2-3 nerf cycles) but rather just a tad stronger than any other AD.


Corki's passive not working on crit damage is fair. Caitlyn's passive does not work on the crit either, neither does a lot of other champions when it comes to damage modifier and crits.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
August 30 2012 10:27 GMT
#136
Corki, graves, and ez are the best ADC's right now because they are so adaptable. No one is denying other ADCs are strong but they require specific match-ups in both allies and enemys. Not only that but there is little room for error among your team.
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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 30 2012 10:35 GMT
#137
perhaps what they meant was that crits would not deal crit*10% as bonus passive true damage, but im guessing it should still retain 10%*AD as damage or it wouldn't make sense to me
cool beans
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 30 2012 10:56 GMT
#138
On August 30 2012 19:27 ibreakurface wrote:
Corki, graves, and ez are the best ADC's right now because they are so adaptable. No one is denying other ADCs are strong but they require specific match-ups in both allies and enemys. Not only that but there is little room for error among your team.



Ezreal=corki > Graves imo. Both ezreal and corki are so safe to pick, that the only knowledge the enemy team will have is they know which of the 2 safe adc you're picking.
hi
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
August 30 2012 10:58 GMT
#139
What I have about Graves is his smokebomb, damage or slow, one should be removed, it also makes my old pc lag really hard ):

I also hate corki, hes so dumb, hes a fucking airplane? wtf.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
August 30 2012 11:03 GMT
#140
Anivia being picked Dominion is an auto-dodge, the whole reason people play her is to wall the ramp at the start.
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