EPT[Patch 1.0.0.146: Late August] General Discussion - Page 8
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
Diana finally got hot fixed; idk if it's enough though | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On August 30 2012 20:43 MyTHicaL wrote: Goddamn I really hate this speed nerf on gragas, drives me insane. And did karthus REALLY need another freaking nerf? seriously. Diana finally got hot fixed; idk if it's enough though Gragas got a buff on the speed of his dash not too long ago iirc. It used to scale with ranks. And he didn't need any buffs back then. Oh and I'd say yes, both the nerfs on Gragas and Karthus were reasonable. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On August 30 2012 20:59 spinesheath wrote: Gragas got a buff on the speed of his dash not too long ago iirc. It used to scale with ranks. And he didn't need any buffs back then. Oh and I'd say yes, both the nerfs on Gragas and Karthus were reasonable. it was early game buff overall lvl18 gragas now is way weaker than before | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 30 2012 21:18 kongoline wrote: it was early game buff overall lvl18 gragas now is way weaker than before And by "way weaker", you mean "still completely fine and extremely strong", right? After watching EC Skyart, I might start to play AP Midalee. Shit seems so fun. I used to love her so much, but never really got a chance to play her much since I've started maining mid. But he just tore shit apart. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On August 30 2012 19:20 little fancy wrote: What annoys me the most is the nerf to Corki's passive not working when critting anymore. I understand und support the W and R changes, but I get the feeling that he will miss a lot of DPS from his passive (I suck at number crunching, feel free to prove my estimation wrong). Well let's see (All of these calculations will be done in % total AD ignoring armor since that's all that matters) With IE and the crit damage mastery he crits for 260% of his total AD. His old passive adds 26% of his total AD so the total damage is 286% of his total AD. His new passive adds only 10% now so he does 270% on crits instead of 286% With IE+PD your crit chance is 55%. On a non-crit Corki still does 110% damage, so old 0.45*110%+0.55*286% = 206.8% new 0.45*110%+0.55*270% = 198% Therefore, with the change, with IE+PD+crit mastery, you lose 4.25% dps (If you have a triforce the numbers are slightly different but the basic idea is the same) EDIT: typos | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 30 2012 21:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: And by "way weaker", you mean "still completely fine and extremely strong", right? After watching EC Skyart, I might start to play AP Midalee. Shit seems so fun. I used to love her so much, but never really got a chance to play her much since I've started maining mid. But he just tore shit apart. Ugh. Don't please? The last thing I need is another TL-led (or close) FotM with one of my least favorite champions. I don't even play mid... I just hate getting uber chunked by spears. Seriously, those things are laser guided and heat seeking. THEY KNOW WHERE I'M GOING. | ||
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Twinmold
Sweden238 Posts
On August 30 2012 21:46 thenexusp wrote: Well let's see (All of these calculations will be done in % total AD ignoring armor since that's all that matters) With IE and the crit damage mastery he crits for 260% of his total AD. His old passive adds 26% of his total AD so the total damage is 286% of his total AD. His new passive adds only 10% now so he does 270% on crits instead of 286% With IE+PD your crit chance is 55%. On a non-crit Corki still does 110% damage, so old 0.45*110%+0.55*286% = 206.8% new 0.45*110%+0.55*270% = 198% Therefore, with the change, with IE+PD+crit mastery, you lose 4.25% dps (If you have a triforce the numbers are slightly different but the basic idea is the same) EDIT: typos That's not counting any armor though, in a real scenario the dps decrease would be higher. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On August 30 2012 13:10 NeoIllusions wrote: Most likely, you're going to have to wait until Season 3 before we see teams test the waters again with new champions. There's a reason why ADs have bogged down to Corkis and Ezreals, lol. There's are plenty of "hidden" OPs atm. My votes go for Twitch, Kat, and Jayce. My votes for "Hidden" OP go to Jayce, Singed, Vayne. Though Jayce isn't really hidden, at least on EUW :3 | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On August 30 2012 21:18 kongoline wrote: it was early game buff overall lvl18 gragas now is way weaker than before Not really. He bursts just as hard, just a little less often. Build a little CDR (Not too hard to get a DFG or something) and you are set. | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On August 30 2012 21:53 Scip wrote: My votes for "Hidden" OP go to Jayce, Singed, Vayne. Though Jayce isn't really hidden, at least on EUW :3 Totally agree on Jayce. It's just that not too many people can play him well. Everybody that plays this game for a certain time probably has the feeling that he's strong, but most of them are missing the capability to excel with his kit. But if you meet one, you're going to have a bad time... However, I wonder why you vote for Singed / Vayne? I mean, they are known for their super strong lategame (Singed becomes the immovable object pain train and Vayne deals terrifying damage), but that's known forever. As an exchange, they get shat on by very many lane matchups which is why you don't see them very often (as a a dedicated AD player I LOVE Vayne but laning with her is not too much fun and that's what counts currently). | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On August 30 2012 21:53 Twinmold wrote: That's not counting any armor though, in a real scenario the dps decrease would be higher. Don't think so; armor is a % reduction so it affects both calculations equally, and the corki passive is calculated on damage after armor (example: if your target has 100 armor you would multiply the above numbers by 50% but you still end up with the same % dps reduction) If someone had a flat damage reduction like amumu it would affect calculations a bit but most champions don't have that. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Edit: just noticed, I've got Urgot, Tristana, Vayne that I almost never play, same with Sivir. I just bought Graves. I play a lot of Ez, sometimes Ashe. Got Draven as day1 buy. I've got most AD carries ('cept Cait, Corki, MF, Kog) and I don't even play a third of them. ôo Granted Urgot got gutted, but still... | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 30 2012 22:06 little fancy wrote: Totally agree on Jayce. It's just that not too many people can play him well. Everybody that plays this game for a certain time probably has the feeling that he's strong, but most of them are missing the capability to excel with his kit. But if you meet one, you're going to have a bad time... However, I wonder why you vote for Singed / Vayne? I mean, they are known for their super strong lategame (Singed becomes the immovable object pain train and Vayne deals terrifying damage), but that's known forever. As an exchange, they get shat on by very many lane matchups which is why you don't see them very often (as a a dedicated AD player I LOVE Vayne but laning with her is not too much fun and that's what counts currently). I think part of the reason that Jayce is definitely OP (and amazing, I love playing him) is because his utility is hard to fail with. If nothing else, one well placed gate changes everything -- free Shurelya's, plus a really easy poke on towers. Then, if nothing else, you can dive right in, which is more or less what any bruiser does until "playing well" comes to be a factor. So yeah, he's awesome, and I can't wait to see him more in pro play (Thanks Reapered!) | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Singed: He has several unfavourable matchups, but that isn't that huge concern because he is top lane and is likely to be last picked/4th picked. Even if he is in a bad matchup, it is ridiculously easy to camp his lane: *fling*, slow, kill. Really, he can support ganks better than almost anyone else. AND he has beast lategame. | ||
Cubu
1171 Posts
And noooooooo, why did they nerf shen? He was doing fine. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
SGS vs AG (chinese team i've not heard of) online compy | ||
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