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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 10 2012 20:04 GMT
#2681
On September 11 2012 05:02 Celestial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 04:58 Slayer91 wrote:
mordekaizer


Mordekaiser with 9% spell vamp start and 13 HP pots pretty overkill.

Needs health regen masteries and anal beads. Warmog's/FoN/Revolver/WotA best Huedekaiser build.
It's your boy Guzma!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:13:45
September 10 2012 20:07 GMT
#2682
Why you guys always try to prove me wrong


Also I soon have 6300 ip getting an OP mid, Zyra or Diana?

I think Zyra is easier to get easy wins with but Diana is better.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
September 10 2012 20:15 GMT
#2683
Wait for syndra. :o
wot?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 10 2012 20:18 GMT
#2684
On September 11 2012 05:07 Eppa! wrote:
Why you guys always try to prove me wrong


Also I soon have 6300 ip getting an OP mid, Zyra or Diana?

I think Zyra is easier to get easy wins with but Diana is better.

Buy Zyra, play with AoE initiators like Amumu/Malph/Sona/etc. Receive free wins.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 10 2012 20:19 GMT
#2685
On September 11 2012 05:07 Eppa! wrote:
Why you guys always try to prove me wrong


You make a lot of absolute statements that are pretty easy to prove wrong. See, the forums are an ocean, the posters are sharks, and posts like that are bloody, meaty carcasses some research organization dropped in the water. It's inevitable that everyone is going to fight to take a bite out of the juicy, delicious freebie.

Also, Karthus makes great use of Spell Vamp quints because Q ignores the AoE penalty when you hit a single target. Akali is probably the most obvious champion for Spell Vamp quints outside of Kennen, so I'm surprised no one has mentioned her yet.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:22:30
September 10 2012 20:21 GMT
#2686
So wtf just happened with TSM invs? Stayed up waiting for the grand finals, and now curse just gave up? :O
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 10 2012 20:23 GMT
#2687
No one plays Akali anymore, so no one talks about her :\ My first skin was Nurse Akali (I think, first one I remember being excited about), want to see her show up more often. Maybe I'll play her mid into squishy mages.
It's your boy Guzma!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:34:05
September 10 2012 20:24 GMT
#2688
On September 11 2012 05:21 Gaslo wrote:
So wtf just happened with TSM invs? Stayed up waiting for the grand finals, and now curse just gave up? :O


Just hearsay, but TSM hasn't paid them for the last invitational yet, so they decided to forfeit. Again, don't know if their is any truth to that, just what I heard.

Edit: Or Elementz was on a plane, dunno lol
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:29:59
September 10 2012 20:29 GMT
#2689
Oddone said they just randomly bailed because they wanna stream.
But than again what does oddone know about it if they didn't get paid really.
Cackle™
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 10 2012 20:29 GMT
#2690
On September 11 2012 05:23 Requizen wrote:
No one plays Akali anymore, so no one talks about her :\ My first skin was Nurse Akali (I think, first one I remember being excited about), want to see her show up more often. Maybe I'll play her mid into squishy mages.

I didnt really play her but i made sure i bought the skinf or that help Japan fund or whatever it was they had.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:31:21
September 10 2012 20:29 GMT
#2691
why is ez the best adc atm? what makes him so much better than corki, graves (both have geat escape mechanic, good harass, burst etc) that his winrate is so much higher than the mentioned adc?
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 10 2012 20:33 GMT
#2692
On September 11 2012 05:29 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 05:23 Requizen wrote:
No one plays Akali anymore, so no one talks about her :\ My first skin was Nurse Akali (I think, first one I remember being excited about), want to see her show up more often. Maybe I'll play her mid into squishy mages.

I didnt really play her but i made sure i bought the skinf or that help Japan fund or whatever it was they had.

The thing that sets her apart from AP assassins like Kat/Diana is her smokebomb, but fancy smoke plays take too much thinking D:
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:35:12
September 10 2012 20:33 GMT
#2693
On September 11 2012 05:29 kongoline wrote:
why is ez the best adc atm? what makes him so much better than corki, graves (both have geat escape mechanic, good harass, burst etc) that his winrate is so much higher than the mentioned adc?

He's played more, probably. I see way more Ez's than Corki's, and about the same or slightly more than Graves. W is really strong too, and the nerf didn't stop that.


On September 11 2012 05:33 Flakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 05:29 arb wrote:
On September 11 2012 05:23 Requizen wrote:
No one plays Akali anymore, so no one talks about her :\ My first skin was Nurse Akali (I think, first one I remember being excited about), want to see her show up more often. Maybe I'll play her mid into squishy mages.

I didnt really play her but i made sure i bought the skinf or that help Japan fund or whatever it was they had.

The thing that sets her apart from AP assassins like Kat/Diana is her smokebomb, but fancy smoke plays take too much thinking D:

I much prefer her to them just because of how Smoke Bomb can lead to amazing plays or sneaky escapes. Much easier to shut down, though, Oracles OP. I feel like she snowballs harder than Diana, but not as much as Kat. Very few things snowball as hard as Kat, Mejai's + spinny ult is silly.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23394 Posts
September 10 2012 20:35 GMT
#2694
Winrate is a percentage, played more isn't a good answer xD
Arekan
Profile Joined February 2011
United States248 Posts
September 10 2012 20:36 GMT
#2695
On September 11 2012 05:29 kongoline wrote:
why is ez the best adc atm? what makes him so much better than corki, graves (both have geat escape mechanic, good harass, burst etc) that his winrate is so much higher than the mentioned adc?


I'd say a combo of his W making trades much better for him, and his escape being the easiest of the 3 to get away from blitz hooks (although the latter is more of me being sad when I grab ez when I play blitz).
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
September 10 2012 20:38 GMT
#2696
On September 11 2012 04:38 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 03:51 Lmui wrote:
On September 11 2012 03:34 Eppa! wrote:
I vote Karth because his damage and scaling is crazy. Also no terrible MUs.


Kassadin and ryze are actually very difficult matchups for karthus, ryze especially with the wall change. Karthus, just by farming charges kassadin's E for him and kassadin has a very easy time farming against karthus. Q's that hit multiple targets do pretty pathetic damage and kassadin's passive ensures that he doesn't have too much trouble eating any damage he takes in exchange for being able to farm well early and karthus' terrible autoattack means that the traditional way of dealing with kassadin is gone.

Ryze on the other hand can easily run up and Q+auto karthus and with his propensity for running MS quints, is really hard to hit with lay wastes before getting a point in wall. This is especially true when ryze gets his first blue buff and can full combo karthus with 38% cdr With the new wall, karthus just doesn't do enough dps to take down ryze before he himself dies, even between wall and exhaust, if ryze kites appropriately, all karthus is dealing damage with is his Qs which pale in comparison to ryze's combo damage.

Kassadin and Ahri are very hard MUs but they are both doable. His Q has long range and lets you farm vs almost anyone.


Karthus has a lot of bad matchups actually. Those two are just awful, since both play the role of assassin and are highly mobile with strong burst at level 6. LB can pretty much 1 shot Karthus, Swain can fight him at any level in lane, and once Ryze gets tear/cata, Karthus is especially going to be hurting. He can do well vs Morgana though, so long as he doesn't get hit by her binding, in which case he is pretty much dead. His wave clear is phenomenal if given the chance, and Morg will most definitely do that for you. Once you farm the wave, go farm wraiths+dogs and then proceed to outscale her.


Though his damage and scaling into late game is ridiculous, that is true. I've always regarded him as the only true hyper carry ap, with Ryze being up there as well.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
September 10 2012 20:43 GMT
#2697
I'd say the worst MUs for Karthus as of late are Gragas/Ahri/Kass. You don't see Kass a lot but the other two are very common. Yeah Gragas/Karthus can go even, but it's such an abusive time if he wants it to be.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:59:34
September 10 2012 20:48 GMT
#2698
On September 11 2012 05:19 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 05:07 Eppa! wrote:
Why you guys always try to prove me wrong


You make a lot of absolute statements that are pretty easy to prove wrong. See, the forums are an ocean, the posters are sharks, and posts like that are bloody, meaty carcasses some research organization dropped in the water. It's inevitable that everyone is going to fight to take a bite out of the juicy, delicious freebie.

Also, Karthus makes great use of Spell Vamp quints because Q ignores the AoE penalty when you hit a single target. Akali is probably the most obvious champion for Spell Vamp quints outside of Kennen, so I'm surprised no one has mentioned her yet.

Well not all my posts are like that.

However i really disagree with Karthus and Akali on spell vamp quints. Akali is much better of with AD quints and pen marks her damage is so much higher that way.

Also i don't believe Morgana, LB and Ryze are bad MU. Morgana is even; if your blue lane (lane closest to blue) helps you against the first and second blue respawn invade you are winning.

LB is really really easy her scaling sucks sooo hard. sure she can kill you at 7; its not possible at 6 (1v1) you just need to keep up in farm decently and you are going to win the game.

Ryze can't go aggro for a long time if you have a ganking jungler.

Swain is also even he is better 1-5 slighly better 6-10 even 11-15 much worse at 16-18
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 10 2012 20:52 GMT
#2699
On September 11 2012 05:24 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 05:21 Gaslo wrote:
So wtf just happened with TSM invs? Stayed up waiting for the grand finals, and now curse just gave up? :O


Just hearsay, but TSM hasn't paid them for the last invitational yet, so they decided to forfeit. Again, don't know if their is any truth to that, just what I heard.

Edit: Or Elementz was on a plane, dunno lol
http://twitter.com/Leaguepedia/status/245256773764784131


there was that whole thing way back when on how long tourneys took to pay out -_- not surprised

streaming revenue is probably pretty big, but i guess TSM wanted to keep the stream revenue...
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
September 10 2012 20:54 GMT
#2700
On September 11 2012 03:51 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 03:34 Eppa! wrote:
I vote Karth because his damage and scaling is crazy. Also no terrible MUs.


Ryze on the other hand can easily run up and Q+auto karthus and with his propensity for running MS quints, is really hard to hit with lay wastes before getting a point in wall. This is especially true when ryze gets his first blue buff and can full combo karthus with 38% cdr With the new wall, karthus just doesn't do enough dps to take down ryze before he himself dies, even between wall and exhaust, if ryze kites appropriately, all karthus is dealing damage with is his Qs which pale in comparison to ryze's combo damage.



The Ryze Karthus match-up is mostly Ryze trying to run up and Karthus trying to prevent that and farm from range. Early Karthus takes longer to run out of mana than early Ryze. Karthus of course shouldn't really choose to fight Ryze straight up, but he can farm that match-up, is better at farming jungle and has his global presence. If you pair Karthus with a Lee Sin or something like that, Ryze can't really look to pressure Karthus off of creeps without the fear of dying to a gank. Ryze is not a terrible match-up for Karthus.
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