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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:52 CeriseCherries wrote: there was that whole thing way back when on how long tourneys took to pay out -_- not surprised streaming revenue is probably pretty big, but i guess TSM wanted to keep the stream revenue... Curse knew all this beforehand so seems like a power play. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:33 Requizen wrote: I much prefer her to them just because of how Smoke Bomb can lead to amazing plays or sneaky escapes. Much easier to shut down, though, Oracles OP. I feel like she snowballs harder than Diana, but not as much as Kat. Very few things snowball as hard as Kat, Mejai's + spinny ult is silly. Why is everyone so obsessed over Kat's ult? It hardly does any damage, and that is if you get the channel off for a long duration. QWE + Reset is so much more impactful... | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:55 Numy wrote: Curse knew all this beforehand so seems like a power play. I assume it was more 1+2, then they were like, "well fuck this, we can't even stream", so just decided to drop it. | ||
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qtiehunter
1088 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:59 Slayer91 wrote: holy shit guys its TF IRL + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMoc7tHMQOg that's so awesome *~* | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:48 Eppa! wrote: Well not all my posts are like that. However i really disagree with Karthus and Akali on spell vamp quints. Akali is much better of with AD quints and pen marks her damage is so much higher that way. Also i don't believe Morgana, LB and Ryze are bad MU. Morgana is even; if your blue lane (lane closest to blue) helps you against the first and second blue respawn invade you are winning. LB is really really easy her scaling sucks sooo hard. sure she can kill you at 7; its not possible at 6 (1v1) you just need to keep up in farm decently and you are going to win the game. Ryze can't go aggro for a long time if you have a ganking jungler. Swain is also even he is better 1-5 slighly better 6-10 even 11-15 much worse at 16-18 Can't say I play LB, but I don't understand why she can't kill you at 6. I always thought 6 was where everyone pretty much said "well, I had fun losing half my health from her combo, now I get to lose all of it". And you're referencing late game Karth, which is pretty much the best ap in the game. No one brings that much damage to a team like he does. Ryze can, but he doesn't apply it to everyone, just kills people one at a time. When I say he has bad matchups, I'm pretty much referencing in lane, which is 1-whenever laning ends. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:48 Eppa! wrote: Well not all my posts are like that. However i really disagree with Karthus and Akali on spell vamp quints. Akali is much better of with AD quints and pen marks her damage is so much higher that way. You'll do more damage with MPen, but at the cost of sustain and trade potential. With just base MR factored in MPen Akali and Spell Vamp Akali are roughly even in a trade, with Spell Vamp Akali having an extremely slight advantage (which grows as MR increases). The problem for MPen Akali is that between trades Spell Vamp Akali heals for significantly more. MPen Akali, barring jungler intervention or misplays by her opponent, loses the lane to attrition. Spell Vamp Quints on Karthus are for when you're against an opponent who forces you to farm and outscale them rather than go for the kill. Having a 1000 range ability which bypasses the AoE penalty is absurdly good for weathering harass through Spell Vamp. You don't necessarily use them in all situations. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On September 11 2012 07:20 TheKefka wrote: nvm this ain't the qq thread I guess. Doesn't matter played Swain. hue | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Swain doesn't exactly solve these problems because he can't push really well so you just trade one problem for another but w/e. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 11 2012 06:40 Cloud9157 wrote: Can't say I play LB, but I don't understand why she can't kill you at 6. I always thought 6 was where everyone pretty much said "well, I had fun losing half my health from her combo, now I get to lose all of it". And you're referencing late game Karth, which is pretty much the best ap in the game. No one brings that much damage to a team like he does. Ryze can, but he doesn't apply it to everyone, just kills people one at a time. When I say he has bad matchups, I'm pretty much referencing in lane, which is 1-whenever laning ends. The *real* problem is that in case LB fails to kill Akali at level 6-7 for any reason, Akali will just sustain back. LB loses any trades without her R. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On September 11 2012 06:40 Cloud9157 wrote: Can't say I play LB, but I don't understand why she can't kill you at 6. I always thought 6 was where everyone pretty much said "well, I had fun losing half my health from her combo, now I get to lose all of it". And you're referencing late game Karth, which is pretty much the best ap in the game. No one brings that much damage to a team like he does. Ryze can, but he doesn't apply it to everyone, just kills people one at a time. When I say he has bad matchups, I'm pretty much referencing in lane, which is 1-whenever laning ends. She need level 4 q to have enough damage to kill you 1v1 On September 11 2012 06:58 Seuss wrote: You'll do more damage with MPen, but at the cost of sustain and trade potential. With just base MR factored in MPen Akali and Spell Vamp Akali are roughly even in a trade, with Spell Vamp Akali having an extremely slight advantage (which grows as MR increases). The problem for MPen Akali is that between trades Spell Vamp Akali heals for significantly more. MPen Akali, barring jungler intervention or misplays by her opponent, loses the lane to attrition. Spell Vamp Quints on Karthus are for when you're against an opponent who forces you to farm and outscale them rather than go for the kill. Having a 1000 range ability which bypasses the AoE penalty is absurdly good for weathering harass through Spell Vamp. You don't necessarily use them in all situations. If you want early game sustain hp regen is much better. Lategame it's worse and lacks the QQ factor but it quite clearly better for early game sustain. Also its bizarre to rune for in case they want to give you an advantage which a freefarm Karthus lane is. Akali is better | ||
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Agnosthar
631 Posts
On September 11 2012 06:40 Cloud9157 wrote: Can't say I play LB, but I don't understand why she can't kill you at 6. I always thought 6 was where everyone pretty much said "well, I had fun losing half my health from her combo, now I get to lose all of it". And you're referencing late game Karth, which is pretty much the best ap in the game. No one brings that much damage to a team like he does. Ryze can, but he doesn't apply it to everyone, just kills people one at a time. When I say he has bad matchups, I'm pretty much referencing in lane, which is 1-whenever laning ends. Spellvamp quints on Karthus sounds really terrible to me. You're almost always going catalyst, so you have loads of lane sustain anyway. Plus it's pretty hard to harrass Karthus much when he can last hit from 1k range. Also, missing out on the AP quints can make the difference when ult'ing other lanes. Calling Karthus the best AP in the game isn't true anymore, the last 2 nerfs to his R and W mean there better AP's to choose from now imo. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
What's the rationale for some skills' CC duration being fixed while for other skills their CC duration is variable with skill rank? + Show Spoiler [skills with variable CC duration] + Ahri charm, Cho silence, Garen silence, Fiddles fear, Heim blind, Irelia stun, Kass silence, Lulu Whimsy, Malz silence, Maokai root, Morg root, Noct fear, Rammus taunt, Ryze root, Soraka silence, Teemo blind, TF stun, Veigar stun, Zyra root + Show Spoiler [skills with fixed CC duration] + All ults, passives that stun or root aka Kennen Annie and Nautilus, all "Knocked airborne", all Slow skills, Amumu stun, Anivia stun, Brand stun, Caitlyn root, Fiddles silence, Heim stun, Jax stun, Leona's entire kit, LB silence, Lux root, Panth stun, Poppy stun, Renekton stun, Riven stun, Shen taunt, Sion stun, Swain root, Taric stun, Udyr stun, Viktor stun, Xerath stun Now for some skills it makes sense to me: Rammus taunt is single target vs. Shen taunt which is AoE, which means that Rammus taunt has shorter duration early on for ganks but longer duration for teamfights to make up for being single target. Others don't make a lot of sense to me: Lux Light Binding with fixed duration vs. Morg Dark Binding with variable duration, why? Or heim grenade with fixed stun duration but variable blind duration; Viktor AoE stun with fixed duration vs. Veigar AoE stun with variable duration, or Sion & Taric targetted ranged stuns with fixed durations vs. TF targetted ranged stun with variable duration. Do the design decisions of fixed vs. variable CC durations seem somewhat random at times? | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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