EPT[Patch 1.0.0.146: Late August] General Discussion - Page 132
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On September 10 2012 23:57 TheKefka wrote: Were talking about sona,leona is a different story. Were talking about sona here lol,unless I'm missing something. Edit: Eh, redacted. Point already addressed. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 10 2012 23:45 TheKefka wrote: Here's Chauster sona:Armor+ 12.7,Magic Resist+ 12.1.,Magic Pen.+ 8.5 Gold / 10+ 3 And Krepo sona:Armor+ 12.7 Health+ 78 Magic Resist+ 12.1Magic Pen.+ 8.5 I cite them because their rune page for sona strictly says SONA lol. Doesn't gosupepper run like ad marks or something awesome, on sona? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:08 Kouda wrote: Which top laners scale the best late game? or atleast better than Irelia? Scaling is highly subjectively a situational because it changes based on teamcomps . You don't see teams say "Oh we're going lategame let's pick jax" because jax isn't actually good lategame if he can get kited or poked down while malphite say would rape that kind of team. I think gosu pepper does something either batshit crazy or something else batshit crazy, dem russians dude. Like either its full AP page or full defensive page with defensive runes. I think I heard that he runs flat hp quints as well from deman or something. And chalice is just insanely good on sona because if you're not the one buying aegis you have no other way of buying MR anyway and often aps hell even the other support can burst you in fights which means the mr and mana regen end up both bbeing awesome and it's much easier to afford the 890 gold in small parts than "full" items. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:10 wei2coolman wrote: Doesn't gosupepper run like ad marks or something awesome, on sona? Either should work,the point is offensive red marks work best on sona who doesn't need that much armor,armor yellows are enough.She want's to bully people as much as possible. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:08 Kouda wrote: Which top laners scale the best late game? or atleast better than Irelia? Singed. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:08 Kouda wrote: Which top laners scale the best late game? or atleast better than Irelia? It really depends on your endgame goals. If you're talking about a vacuum (like strictcly 1v1), there's probably not that many that scale with Irelia into lategame, but if you're talking about a 5v5, there are plenty of champs that scale harder than Irelia in lategame, if given sufficient teamcomp. Yorick/Kayle ulti's allow them to scale very strongly into lategame, Nunu's bloodboil buff makes him more relevant in lategame than Irelia, (not to mention his giant AOE slow, that prevents Irelia from shitting all over your ADC. Vlad's ulti lets him scale way harder than Irelia in late game. Get where I'm going with this? | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:08 Kouda wrote: Which top laners scale the best late game? or atleast better than Irelia? Malphite. He can lose the lane hard but there is no stopping him in lategame, he will always be a huge factor in any teamfights, even when he is behind in gold. Then again, he gets banned a lot. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:13 justiceknight wrote: how the hell do u lane when u got counter pick or something like that? I used graves and enemy has blitz + any ad,i am so afraid to farm cos of the rocket grab.Any tips? graves vs blitz is in no way a counterpick. in fact you can argue that graves is one of the worst ADs that blitz could possibly grab with his slightly higher resists + higher damage from melee range. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:19 Morfildur wrote: Malphite. He can lose the lane hard but there is no stopping him in lategame, he will always be a huge factor in any teamfights, even when he is behind in gold. Then again, he gets banned a lot. Honestly malphite isn't that good when you learn to spread and kite. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:29 JackDino wrote: Honestly malphite isn't that good when you learn to spread and kite. Or learn to flash out his ult, even in point blank range. See those doublelifts and capt jack malphite ulti dodges? dat shit impressive. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:25 nyxnyxnyx wrote: graves vs blitz is in no way a counterpick. in fact you can argue that graves is one of the worst ADs that blitz could possibly grab with his slightly higher resists + higher damage from melee range. also with graves dodging hook is easy as hell you can even bait him and then counter engage on him his ad carry | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:08 Kouda wrote: Which top laners scale the best late game? or atleast better than Irelia? Nasus is absolutely terrifying lategame assuming: a) You don't get kited once you pop your ult and go MANMODE b) You farm up a shit ton of cs on Q He actually does really well against her in lane as well, in that he can farm nicely without worrying about being harassed out of lane. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:13 justiceknight wrote: how the hell do u lane when u got counter pick or something like that? I used graves and enemy has blitz + any ad,i am so afraid to farm cos of the rocket grab.Any tips? There are 2 situations: 1. If you can't win a direct trade, for example when the opponent is far ahead in items then just hug the tower and learn to lasthit under tower while hoping for your Jungler to help. 2. If you could win the direct trade but can't because of one opposing skill then bait that skill, dodge it and then go all-out on their AD. In the case of Blitzcrank, if he misses a grab, just go for it. He's useless the next 10-15 seconds so you can just go for their AD and punish the hell out of him. If you then get grabbed by blitz you say "thanks for the gapcloser" and finish off their AD. Brush vision is vital, if you can see him then his grabs are a lot easier to dodge, so have your support ward the bushes whenever it is safe to. Or just get Taric, Alistar or Leona as support and laugh whenever they grab someone. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:29 JackDino wrote: Honestly malphite isn't that good when you learn to spread and kite. As if you can expect people in solo queue to spread out. You would not believe how OP Mummy and Sona are at my ELO, because people stand inches away from one another and don't think to scatter when the very obvious tell of "AOE INITIATION NOW" is coming. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:45 Requizen wrote: As if you can expect people in solo queue to spread out. You would not believe how OP Mummy and Sona are at my ELO, because people stand inches away from one another and don't think to scatter when the very obvious tell of "AOE INITIATION NOW" is coming. Lots of funny moments can be had with such situations. I remember a team that thought it's a good idea to stand in the small bush near baron without oracles against Malphite/Zyra. They all died in 2 seconds. I stood in the bush next to it, facepalming. Yes, doublelift and capt jack can't flash out of malphite ults but most people aren't doublelift or capt jack. It just takes a second of being in the wrong position and suddenly hell breaks lose. He's also one of the best at making AD carrys weep with his sticking power and incredible armor, especially pre-LW. | ||
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