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On September 10 2012 17:06 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 16:43 Celial wrote:
I thought you want AS on Shyvana for many reasons:
Generally higher DPS
Faster stacking of W-duration (hit people twice in lane, run behind them forever)
Faster resets of Q (better objective control and - acccording to TOO - almost doubling burst dps in late with short cd (think Q auto auto Q auto auto Q auto auto Q etc))
Faster reset of R
I still build Wits End on Shyvana from time to time, and always feel so much more powerful with it than with anything else. GIANT dps increase, and I feel as if my ult is always up. But thats just me and totally subjective. what? (Active): During the next 3 seconds, Shyvana will deal magic damage each second to nearby enemies and her movement speed will be greatly increased. Shyvana's movement speed bonus itself will be reduced multiplicatively by 15% for every second that passes.
Dragon form: Shyvana now scorches the earth where she walks, leaving a trail of fire for 5 seconds that will continually deal magic damage to enemies that pass over it.
Cooldown: 12 seconds
Diameter of AoE: 325
Fury of the Dragonborn: Each auto attack extends the duration of Burnout by 1 second to a maximum of 4 extra seconds. This works on structuresYou dont keep the movespeed forever, im almost 99% sure it just increases the duration of the AOE damage You dont even need AS runes to get the full duration as someone mentioned above
i was exaggerating the fact that the duration is pretty long if you hit people with auto attacks. and what you do need is to hit something to extend the duration. no one stands still /dance in lane when shyvana runs up to them. they run or flash. everything that allows me to get an extra hit in is more than welcome.
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On September 10 2012 14:34 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I have 9 Rune Pages
Red
MPen
ASpd
ADmg
Yellow
Armor
HP/Level
Blue
AP/Level
MR/Level
Quints
MSpd
ADmg
GP/10
AP
Buy HP/5 quints,they are expensive as fuck but soooo good against lanes that will constantly harass you.
Also flat health is king for aggressive supports.I don't really like gp/10 runes,stick it on a soraka or something.
If you wanna go man mode with taric/leona/nunu buy flat health.
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Needs:
- flat MR blue
- flat or scaling MP5 yellow
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On September 10 2012 19:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Needs:
- flat MR blue
- flat or scaling MP5 yellow
What champion would you use MP5 runes on these days? I can't imagine anyone who'd want these.
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Flat MR blue is probably the next most useful rune. It can be used vs early magic damage.
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On September 10 2012 19:19 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 19:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Needs:
- flat MR blue
- flat or scaling MP5 yellow What champion would you use MP5 runes on these days? I can't imagine anyone who'd want these.
I still have them on most of my AP pages (except for the "top" one with armor). Out of habit I guess, but I take scaling runes.
Also on my "Pantheon mid" page (that I also use for Talon), because spam > not spam.
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pretty sure you want mp5 yellows on ahri for example.
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On September 10 2012 19:35 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 19:19 spinesheath wrote:On September 10 2012 19:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Needs:
- flat MR blue
- flat or scaling MP5 yellow What champion would you use MP5 runes on these days? I can't imagine anyone who'd want these. I still have them on most of my AP pages (except for the "top" one with armor). Out of habit I guess, but I take scaling runes. Also on my "Pantheon mid" page (that I also use for Talon), because spam > not spam.
pretty much. I also use it on yorick top, cause I really dont need armor on him and provides extra "baiting power". I also use them regularly on mid champions cause they dont need the armor
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OnebadBrad 100-0ing people with AP jungle Eve. Wish I'd seen the start of the game since he was 4-1 when I looked, and already level 6, so I missed the most important part.
I should really play some of those junglers who have to gank successfully (hell, I prob should jungle Rammus or Panth) just to force myself to do it more, and learn. I now mid Eve roams well, but I'm not roaming enough at mid either and she seems funnier as a jungler to me. :< (called her ult OP, but everybody was all "but she's frail!", you don't care as long as people don't survive your burst, duh).
Also what do people think of the changes to DFG relative to its change in popularity? I'm a bit flabbergasted that nobody would build it on, say, Mordekaiser or Katarina before, just because they don't use the then-mp5 component. The active had better damage before, though its range has been increased when it was reworked.
Sure you don't use the mp5, but when you're a burst AP caster whose kit allows to nuke people down, why would you pass on a free 20%+ (even after factoring in MR) max target health damage? o_o I'm pretty sure about anybody using it as core now would use it just as well, if not better, in its previous iteration. Player base too scletoric.
Edit: oh shi- just noticed that Chaos Storm's range is shorter than new DFG's range. Gotta try that instead of dcap on Viktor.
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dfg is core on morde tho... boots+3, pick, revolver, dfg, wota, boots2 is what i build usually. boots2 whenever i feel the need to be able to oneshot the wave and run back quickly (getting camped mid, super fast enemy jungler/mid etc).
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
I make this post in an honor of a champion, a champion we all dearly loved. To archive his achievements for when he comes back. Skarner, the Crystal Vanguard. But he has to leave. Because he is the champion Scipaeus deserves, but not the one he needs right now.
Ranked stats:
Wins: 200, Losses: 122, Win/Loss: 62.1%
Lifetime totals: 1451/919/3114
Per game averages: 4.5/2.9/9.7
KDA ratio: 5.0:1
Elo peak: 2325
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Draven looks quite bad at killing towers. :/
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TIL: Darius is pretty good in solo que.
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On September 10 2012 21:23 Alaric wrote:
Draven looks quite bad at killing towers. :/
That reminds me of a question i had since some time.
Is anyone worse at killing towers than Ryze?
That guy has neither AD nor much AP to do any damage so killing towers with him seems to take forever. Is there actually someone who is even worse at that?
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Not sure what you mean, how is Ap relevant to killing towers? If you mean pushing capabilities, Ryze can Push a wave just as fast as any other AP with his Ult up and other Ap dont have more ad than Ryze.
The question should be who is good at killing towers besides Jax,TF, any AD ( and some that probably dont come to my head right now)
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On September 10 2012 21:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Not sure what you mean, how is Ap relevant to killing towers? If you mean pushing capabilities, Ryze can Push a wave just as fast as any other AP with his Ult up and other Ap dont have more ad than Ryze.
The question should be who is good at killing towers besides Jax,TF, any AD ( and some that probably dont come to my head right now)
Except that a part of your AP is added to your dmg when attacking towers in order to allow mages to push better.
Damage to a turret is based on your base attack damage plus the higher of your bonus attack damage or 40% of your ability power.
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On September 10 2012 19:19 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 19:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Needs:
- flat MR blue
- flat or scaling MP5 yellow What champion would you use MP5 runes on these days? I can't imagine anyone who'd want these.
I run mp5 yellows on pretty much every AP mid with mana and not absurdly tiny costs, its really helpful.
I just looked at some guides from Lolpro and they seem to agree, they have mp5 yellows on Ahri, Lux, Kass, Malz, Orianna, veigar, viktor, ziggs, zyra etc
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On September 10 2012 21:44 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 21:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Not sure what you mean, how is Ap relevant to killing towers? If you mean pushing capabilities, Ryze can Push a wave just as fast as any other AP with his Ult up and other Ap dont have more ad than Ryze.
The question should be who is good at killing towers besides Jax,TF, any AD ( and some that probably dont come to my head right now) Except that a part of your AP is added to your dmg when attacking towers in order to allow mages to push better. Show nested quote +Damage to a turret is based on your base attack damage plus the higher of your bonus attack damage or 40% of your ability power.
Oh I actually didnt know that ^^
well I guess Soraka is worse at killing towers 
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