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Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
September 10 2012 04:44 GMT
#2561
On September 10 2012 13:32 Jaso wrote:
whaat SilSol is #1 NA solo queue o.o

I am so proud of him.
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
September 10 2012 04:45 GMT
#2562
I had to stop watching after it was 1-1. What happened? Did Curse win the 3rd game?
Creator of LoLTool.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 10 2012 04:49 GMT
#2563
On September 10 2012 13:39 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 13:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On September 10 2012 13:19 arb wrote:
So since most people are using AS/AR/MR/MS for jungles like maokai now, what am i supposed to run on shyvana and nocturne and stuff like that? the same runes?

What is AR? ArPen? ArPen yellows?

It's probably ARmor, which is what junglers use (it's not a standard abbreviation though)

Those are probably the default runes for a jungler unless you know you're doing something different (e.g. amumu)

AR has been armor forever, ArP is armor pen
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Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 10 2012 05:03 GMT
#2564
AWW YEAH ANOTHER SHAKEDRIZZLE GAME VIA NUBBYPOOHBEAR'S STREAM

Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 10 2012 05:04 GMT
#2565
On September 10 2012 13:45 Goragoth wrote:
I had to stop watching after it was 1-1. What happened? Did Curse win the 3rd game?


Yes Curse won the third game pretty convincingly.
Never Knows Best.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 10 2012 05:05 GMT
#2566
You use movement speed on champions that rely on movement speed for their initiation. You use attack speed on champions that get free shit from autos, like nunu and shyv. You should be using an ad/arp page on champions like olaf. For tanks like amumu and mundo I use just armor and mr/lvl. If you want maokai to walk faster, get mobility boots.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 10 2012 05:17 GMT
#2567
Are there any High Elo players in here who could take a look at my Rune pages and tell me if I'm doing anything wrong? I've got enough IP saved up that I can buy some new runes and still afford Syndra, so I'd like to make sure I don't need more Runes first.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 05:35:16
September 10 2012 05:28 GMT
#2568
shyvana is AD/AD/armor/(armor or MR depending on comp), no other options for her
dunno why you'd want AS on her, it doesn't help her ganks at all and it's not like she's lacking on clear speed

if you think you do well with AS/AS or MS/AS shyvana, switch to AD/AD for a game and watch how much damage you explode for in early ganks. autoQ with a tick or two of W will do easily over 300 damage at level 2, it's crazy burst

this post brought to you by resident tl shyvana expert mmmk?

for nunu you do want MS/AS in the jungle tho. and for nocturne idk i suck with nocturne but i think any offensive stat will benefit him with how strong his kit is offensively. i've seen proponents for AS/AS and ArP/AD on noc, but i'm bad enough with him that i've failed with both

and on mundo i run AS/AS, udyr i run MS/AS, amumu i run armor/mpen, skarner Arpen/AD, ww a fkmess of MS/AD/AS/Arpen cause fuck it warwick's pre-6 potential is low anyway just gotta speed to 6 and pray for the best. on lee i've seen AD/AD/AD/AD and Arpen/Arpen/AD/AD before, pretty funny stuff
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 10 2012 05:28 GMT
#2569
On September 10 2012 14:17 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Are there any High Elo players in here who could take a look at my Rune pages and tell me if I'm doing anything wrong? I've got enough IP saved up that I can buy some new runes and still afford Syndra, so I'd like to make sure I don't need more Runes first.

Just list out what runes you have and how many rune pages
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 10 2012 05:34 GMT
#2570
I have 9 Rune Pages

Red
MPen
ASpd
ADmg

Yellow
Armor
HP/Level

Blue
AP/Level
MR/Level

Quints
MSpd
ADmg
GP/10
AP
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 10 2012 05:36 GMT
#2571
you have a pretty good mix. i'd look for some flat MR blues and arpen reds next but other than that you have a pretty balanced set. obviously none of the niche runes but if you just play a general selection of champs you're fine
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 10 2012 05:43 GMT
#2572
On September 10 2012 14:28 gtrsrs wrote:
shyvana is AD/AD/armor/(armor or MR depending on comp), no other options for her
dunno why you'd want AS on her, it doesn't help her ganks at all and it's not like she's lacking on clear speed

if you think you do well with AS/AS or MS/AS shyvana, switch to AD/AD for a game and watch how much damage you explode for in early ganks. autoQ with a tick or two of W will do easily over 300 damage at level 2, it's crazy burst

this post brought to you by resident tl shyvana expert mmmk?

for nunu you do want MS/AS in the jungle tho. and for nocturne idk i suck with nocturne but i think any offensive stat will benefit him with how strong his kit is offensively. i've seen proponents for AS/AS and ArP/AD on noc, but i'm bad enough with him that i've failed with both

and on mundo i run AS/AS, udyr i run MS/AS, amumu i run armor/mpen, skarner Arpen/AD, ww a fkmess of MS/AD/AS/Arpen cause fuck it warwick's pre-6 potential is low anyway just gotta speed to 6 and pray for the best. on lee i've seen AD/AD/AD/AD and Arpen/Arpen/AD/AD before, pretty funny stuff

I used to see AS AS AS AS warwick a while back.
was kinda funny
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 10 2012 05:46 GMT
#2573
Should get: Flat MR Blues (for AD bot lane, AP mid, etc.)
If you want to feel like a Pro: AP/lvl Yellows (Jiji style), 2xFlat MPen Blues (Jijimon~), Flat MR Reds (FroggAnivia), Flat HP5 Quints (Scarra, Wickd, etc.), Flar APen Reds (SaintV)
I want to be like Ego Ignaxio and make love to Kennen: Energy Regen Yellows
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 10 2012 06:14 GMT
#2574
i run lifesteal quints on shyvanna and max Q after W with ad reds
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 10 2012 07:10 GMT
#2575
I thought you were supposed to get AS marks on Shyvana because she gets bonuses on autos..... similarly to Nunu, Skarnar, and Noctourne.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 07:27:39
September 10 2012 07:26 GMT
#2576
On September 10 2012 16:10 Sufficiency wrote:
I thought you were supposed to get AS marks on Shyvana because she gets bonuses on autos..... similarly to Nunu, Skarnar, and Noctourne.


It doesn't make enough of a difference to matter. Her W is going to hit its full duration even if you have no bonus AS at all, and the cooldown reduction on her Q isn't all that relevant. With the attack speed you can get from Runes you're looking at getting a second Q off 0.5 seconds faster than before. Yay?

Attack speed isn't a bad on her, but there are simply better runes for jungling.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 10 2012 07:41 GMT
#2577
On September 10 2012 16:26 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 16:10 Sufficiency wrote:
I thought you were supposed to get AS marks on Shyvana because she gets bonuses on autos..... similarly to Nunu, Skarnar, and Noctourne.


It doesn't make enough of a difference to matter. Her W is going to hit its full duration even if you have no bonus AS at all, and the cooldown reduction on her Q isn't all that relevant. With the attack speed you can get from Runes you're looking at getting a second Q off 0.5 seconds faster than before. Yay?

Attack speed isn't a bad on her, but there are simply better runes for jungling.


I don't know, 10ad extra per attack doesn't seem all that amazing either. Probably need to do some math to figure out conclusively which is better.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
September 10 2012 07:43 GMT
#2578
I thought you want AS on Shyvana for many reasons:

Generally higher DPS
Faster stacking of W-duration (hit people twice in lane, run behind them forever)
Faster resets of Q (better objective control and - acccording to TOO - almost doubling burst dps in late with short cd (think Q auto auto Q auto auto Q auto auto Q etc))
Faster reset of R

I still build Wits End on Shyvana from time to time, and always feel so much more powerful with it than with anything else. GIANT dps increase, and I feel as if my ult is always up. But thats just me and totally subjective.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 08:06:49
September 10 2012 08:06 GMT
#2579
On September 10 2012 16:43 Celial wrote:
I thought you want AS on Shyvana for many reasons:

Generally higher DPS
Faster stacking of W-duration (hit people twice in lane, run behind them forever)
Faster resets of Q (better objective control and - acccording to TOO - almost doubling burst dps in late with short cd (think Q auto auto Q auto auto Q auto auto Q etc))
Faster reset of R

I still build Wits End on Shyvana from time to time, and always feel so much more powerful with it than with anything else. GIANT dps increase, and I feel as if my ult is always up. But thats just me and totally subjective.

what?

(Active): During the next 3 seconds, Shyvana will deal magic damage each second to nearby enemies and her movement speed will be greatly increased. Shyvana's movement speed bonus itself will be reduced multiplicatively by 15% for every second that passes.

Dragon form: Shyvana now scorches the earth where she walks, leaving a trail of fire for 5 seconds that will continually deal magic damage to enemies that pass over it.

Cooldown: 12 seconds
Diameter of AoE: 325

Fury of the Dragonborn: Each auto attack extends the duration of Burnout by 1 second to a maximum of 4 extra seconds. This works on structures


You dont keep the movespeed forever, im almost 99% sure it just increases the duration of the AOE damage You dont even need AS runes to get the full duration as someone mentioned above
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 10 2012 08:21 GMT
#2580
where is jiji getting his music from these days?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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