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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 09 2012 09:04 GMT
#2361
On September 09 2012 17:45 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
yeah cos TF gold card AoE stunned at level 1

See, that's beta. That was completely its own monster.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 09 2012 09:11 GMT
#2362
On September 09 2012 17:14 Shiragaku wrote:
Does anyone remember the terror of Garen/Taric bot lane? So sad it is outdated now D:

Gotta go with the Garius now. Garen/Darius very stronk. Big hues against bads.
God Bless
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 09 2012 09:20 GMT
#2363
DSC and I will take Pantheon/Maokai against any lane and win it
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 09:24:04
September 09 2012 09:23 GMT
#2364
Garen Taric was the first lane i managed to max out my SotO. Funny times. I started one year ago, and prolly did all sort of bad stuff until like level 20, but after that i was pretty much hooked, so started following streams and lurking here. Some bad stuff i did before that include:

-Bought Irelia because friend suggested her to me, maxed W last, never used the active. Was complaining to my friend that this shit does no damage. Full tank Ire without W OP.

-We understood nothing about the laning in lol, so when i read in elementz list that Corki and Brand both win lanes super hard, the natural thing was to ask my friend to buy Brand, and i bought Corki. 2 champ that win lane super hard equals to us winning the lane even harder, right? With manamune we were rarely outpushed though..

-Used Mobafire guides on all chars... 90% of the time that meant full DPS, zero survivability.

-Only bought champs that were T1 in elementz list.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 09:35:24
September 09 2012 09:28 GMT
#2365
Oh yeah...I remember one time when I was against a super super fed Kog Ma loaded with AS and LS and he tanked our entire team...oh those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end...

And I was just thinking when it comes to professional games. When there is a lot of combat in a StarCraft game, it is often a sign of a higher level player. When there is a lot of combat in LoL, it is often a sign of a lower level game. A hyperbole and untrue to some extent with the StarCraft reference, but I hope you understand my point.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 09 2012 09:37 GMT
#2366
I remember playing rammus pantheon bot when I was leveling up, shit was hilarious.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 09 2012 09:45 GMT
#2367
It's pretty interesting how hard TF's been nerfed throughout, and still very popular pick.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
September 09 2012 09:54 GMT
#2368
On September 09 2012 18:11 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 17:14 Shiragaku wrote:
Does anyone remember the terror of Garen/Taric bot lane? So sad it is outdated now D:

Gotta go with the Garius now. Garen/Darius very stronk. Big hues against bads.


Regen garen bot still pretty good maybe you have to adjust for more damage to make up for lack of AD but taric armour +insane regen combined with garens higher base damage scaling with the armour pen better and it's still not bad.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 09 2012 09:55 GMT
#2369
There is HOPE for SEA. The regional is being held in Vietnam and this is the audience.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Given LoL is only out in Vietnam for one month, this is alot of people. I was thinking they are hosting this in some studio with no audience. I am surprised SEA! Hope there will be more teams that can compete with teams for other parts of the world.
Terran
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
September 09 2012 09:57 GMT
#2370
On September 09 2012 18:45 wei2coolman wrote:
It's pretty interesting how hard TF's been nerfed throughout, and still very popular pick.


Even though TF has been nerfed (most notably the global ult), bot lane has gradually become more and more snowbally.

AD carries used to take exhaust and Supports would take CV. Add in the fact that supports were much stronger and had more sustain (soraka and sona). It used to be that even if you got double killed, you could still farm in peace.

In the current game, with TF, one gank on an even lane and suddenly the enemy AD is zoned from being behind. Making him retardedly strong
Also, with CV gone, you're infinitely more vulnerable to getting dove under your tower once you're behind. All in all, I'd say that TF is at least equally strong as he was before, despite all of the nerfs.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
September 09 2012 10:21 GMT
#2371
Pretty sure that's not true. Even in pro games I've seen AD carries coming from behind and fight on even footing. It's just that there are some AD that are not as strong as others in the laning phase: Ezreal / Miss Fortune / Corki (even twitch nowadays >.>) are just one tier above the others.
Caitlyn is trash, not considering her because once behind game is lost.
Tristana can make up for her mid game shittiness in the late game; in the lane she's ok with a strong support I guess.
Ashe is still a mystery for me ;D I hate her guts when I see her as the opposing carry, but whenever I play carry it feels that unless I have low latency (¬70+ atm) it's just impossible to abuse her longer range properly ( in lane ).
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:28:57
September 09 2012 10:27 GMT
#2372
On September 09 2012 19:21 Mondieu wrote:
Pretty sure that's not true. Even in pro games I've seen AD carries coming from behind and fight on even footing. It's just that there are some AD that are not as strong as others in the laning phase: Ezreal / Miss Fortune / Corki (even twitch nowadays >.>) are just one tier above the others.
Caitlyn is trash, not considering her because once behind game is lost.
Tristana can make up for her mid game shittiness in the late game; in the lane she's ok with a strong support I guess.
Ashe is still a mystery for me ;D I hate her guts when I see her as the opposing carry, but whenever I play carry it feels that unless I have low latency (¬70+ atm) it's just impossible to abuse her longer range properly ( in lane ).


You just don't come from behind when TF tower dives you over and over lol.
edit* not even tower dive, if his ult is up, you're zoned if you're behind in lane already.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 09 2012 11:05 GMT
#2373
AFTER LOSING TWELVE GAMES IN A ROW I FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO WIN AGAIN

+ Show Spoiler +
Pick Maokai, Camp middle
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
September 09 2012 11:18 GMT
#2374
On September 09 2012 19:21 Mondieu wrote:
Caitlyn is trash, not considering her because once behind game is lost.

lol this is not true at all. cait will always be relevant with her range and escape.
GANDHISAUCE
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
September 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#2375
On September 09 2012 20:05 VirgilSC2 wrote:
AFTER LOSING TWELVE GAMES IN A ROW I FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO WIN AGAIN

+ Show Spoiler +
Pick Maokai, Camp middle

fuck you + Show Spoiler +
happens to me a lot not being serious about that of course. congrats on winning again though lol. on another note, what is the best jungler to camp bottom lane with? it seems like as long as i can camp bot lane, i get a much better chance at winning games. mao seems like a decent one
BW -> League -> CSGO
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
September 09 2012 11:33 GMT
#2376
Speaking of Cait and TF ganks... a dumb question just popped up in my mind. If you ult with her a Shen who finishes channeling ult before you finish channeling your ult, does the bullet simply go past him or does it follow him over the map? If Shen ults behind you, does the bullet leave and enter the map? Or is the ult just cancelled? Or does the bullet teleport with him?

I don't have friends to try this with
RIP KT.Violet
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 09 2012 11:35 GMT
#2377
On September 09 2012 20:33 qtiehunter wrote:
Speaking of Cait and TF ganks... a dumb question just popped up in my mind. If you ult with her a Shen who finishes channeling ult before you finish channeling your ult, does the bullet simply go past him or does it follow him over the map? If Shen ults behind you, does the bullet leave and enter the map? Or is the ult just cancelled? Or does the bullet teleport with him?

I don't have friends to try this with

Projectiles follow Shen ult, TF ult, teleport, etcetc.
Don't get teleported, they just change direction and fly there
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 09 2012 11:40 GMT
#2378
On September 09 2012 20:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 20:33 qtiehunter wrote:
Speaking of Cait and TF ganks... a dumb question just popped up in my mind. If you ult with her a Shen who finishes channeling ult before you finish channeling your ult, does the bullet simply go past him or does it follow him over the map? If Shen ults behind you, does the bullet leave and enter the map? Or is the ult just cancelled? Or does the bullet teleport with him?

I don't have friends to try this with

Projectiles follow Shen ult, TF ult, teleport, etcetc.
Don't get teleported, they just change direction and fly there

But if Cait is channelling and Shen finish his ult, I think Cait ult will be cancel.
Fizz ult on the other hand will follow Shen whenever you go if Shen got hit by the small fish.
Terran
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 09 2012 11:42 GMT
#2379
On September 09 2012 20:28 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 20:05 VirgilSC2 wrote:
AFTER LOSING TWELVE GAMES IN A ROW I FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO WIN AGAIN

+ Show Spoiler +
Pick Maokai, Camp middle

fuck you + Show Spoiler +
happens to me a lot not being serious about that of course. congrats on winning again though lol. on another note, what is the best jungler to camp bottom lane with? it seems like as long as i can camp bot lane, i get a much better chance at winning games. mao seems like a decent one

If you can wait until level6, Skarner is the king of bottom camps. Flash ult, shurelyas on top of it, as long as enemy team has no globals their bottom is as good as dead.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 09 2012 11:47 GMT
#2380
On September 09 2012 20:40 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 20:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 09 2012 20:33 qtiehunter wrote:
Speaking of Cait and TF ganks... a dumb question just popped up in my mind. If you ult with her a Shen who finishes channeling ult before you finish channeling your ult, does the bullet simply go past him or does it follow him over the map? If Shen ults behind you, does the bullet leave and enter the map? Or is the ult just cancelled? Or does the bullet teleport with him?

I don't have friends to try this with

Projectiles follow Shen ult, TF ult, teleport, etcetc.
Don't get teleported, they just change direction and fly there

But if Cait is channelling and Shen finish his ult, I think Cait ult will be cancel.
Fizz ult on the other hand will follow Shen whenever you go if Shen got hit by the small fish.

Yep cait ult has to launch first if you want it to follow.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
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