EPT[D] Ashe mid - Page 3
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Garhf
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On August 28 2012 02:10 Sufficiency wrote: Really? Even if Akali gets 0 CS by level 6 she can still easily rape an Ashe by going all in. I'd like you to try 0 cs akali level 6 vs 40 cs ashe level 8. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
But Akali would be getting farm either way and damn sure wouldn't be 2 levels behind. Assassins crush AD carries. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 28 2012 09:55 Craton wrote: Level 6 Akali would probably still gib a level 8 Ashe. But Akali would be getting farm either way and damn sure wouldn't be 2 levels behind. Assassins crush AD carries. Lvl 6 Akali with 0 cs will still gib a lvl 8 ashe with 75 cs. | ||
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eParadox
Canada132 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Or maybe that's just 4not zekent. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On August 28 2012 09:55 Craton wrote: Level 6 Akali would probably still gib a level 8 Ashe. But Akali would be getting farm either way and damn sure wouldn't be 2 levels behind. Assassins crush AD carries. I've played the match up a couple of times and there's no way in hell akali beats ashe without jungler help. What happens is this, you get zoned from the get go because akali isnt an assassin early on, she is a shitty melee champion with a crappy harass and no gap closer who doesn't want to get armor early on and gets completely raped levels 1-5. Now when you get to level 6, you're not exactly annie, you still have to wait about 50 seconds for your 3 charges of your ult to be up and by that time the ashe is at least a level ahead with 2 dblades to your boots + pots and have fun trying to burst that down because if you don't there's no way her slows and stun are gonna let you go alive. Not to mention that throughout the entire laning phase she supports jungle ganks better than you do. Ad carries do pretty damn well in solo lanes against anyone, assassins or not, Kassadin still counts as an assassin right? Why does he get so crushed by ad carries then? | ||
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 28 2012 16:13 O-ops wrote: Does the Akali you play against never use her w or something? Cuz if you're gettting the impression that she gets raped 1-5 something is wrong lol. It's not gonna last forever, and it's got a long cooldown. I'd say its perfectly practical to zone her out completely lvl 1-5 with ashe, granted she'll salvage what farm she can when shrouds up, but tahts about it | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On August 28 2012 16:25 arb wrote: It's not gonna last forever, and it's got a long cooldown. I'd say its perfectly practical to zone her out completely lvl 1-5 with ashe, granted she'll salvage what farm she can when shrouds up, but tahts about it Thats why you play Diana, clear whole wave with Q, never miss CS, then clear whole Ashe. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 28 2012 16:25 arb wrote: It's not gonna last forever, and it's got a long cooldown. I'd say its perfectly practical to zone her out completely lvl 1-5 with ashe, granted she'll salvage what farm she can when shrouds up, but tahts about it Log cooldown you mean 20 seconds. You use it once per minion wave, which is every 30 seconds. Good enough if you ask me. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 28 2012 06:07 Garhf wrote: as a heavy kassadin player, AD mids really deny a typical kassadin really hard. From my experience, the only way to recover is by jungler help (even then it's still hard, need at least 2 kills) or if the tower isn't pushed/heavily damaged. Having the threat of not being able to leave lane due to losing the tower/map control and not being able to farm really hurts him in team fights. That's because it's Kassadin. His burst is really sad. | ||
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gaizka
United States991 Posts
On August 28 2012 10:33 Sufficiency wrote: Lvl 6 Akali with 0 cs will still gib a lvl 8 ashe with 75 cs. Well, has the ashe gone back to buy?, If the adc goes for the same build they go in bot sure, but well... lets say I get qss as my first item vs malz. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 28 2012 20:12 gaizka wrote: Well, has the ashe gone back to buy?, If the adc goes for the same build they go in bot sure, but well... lets say I get qss as my first item vs malz. Then he just kills you anyway or free farms and outscales you because you can't last hit under tower? Do we even play the same game?Ashe can't even trade vs adc let alone ap mid lanes.... | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On August 28 2012 23:49 nafta wrote: Then he just kills you anyway or free farms and outscales you because you can't last hit under tower? Do we even play the same game?Ashe can't even trade vs adc let alone ap mid lanes.... I'm fairly sure ashe can trade with most mages pre-6, and probably 1v1 them with arrow even later (in some cases at least) | ||
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
But ashe... I don't really see it happen at high level. | ||
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:33 OutlaW- wrote: I'm fairly sure ashe can trade with most mages pre-6, and probably 1v1 them with arrow even later (in some cases at least) You might be able to trade evenly at levels 1-2, but the AP's damage escalates a lot faster than Ashe's. The only APs Ashe really has an advantage against are those with melee-range autos, and even then she loses to most of them. | ||
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Hakanfrog
Sweden690 Posts
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