also he had first blood, Hakanfrog, and was 1-0-0
[D] Ashe mid - Page 4
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
also he had first blood, Hakanfrog, and was 1-0-0 | ||
Silencioseu
Cyprus493 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 29 2012 03:14 OutlaW- wrote: If you can dodge their shit while autoattacking (perfect example is ahri) then I think it can work also he had first blood, Hakanfrog, and was 1-0-0 That does not compute. At 8:00 the total number of waves he'll have been able to last hit is 12. The following assumes perfect last-hitting and Smite usage, and accounts for creep scaling and increasing ranks of Hawkshot. Remaining Gold at Start: 20g Value of 12 waves: 1608g Value of Wraith Stolen @1:40: 33g Approximate Gold Gains from Hawkshot: 191g Gold Gains from TF Passive: 152g Gold Gained by Smiting: 60g Passive Gold Gains (including gp10): 809g First Blood Gold: 400g Total: 3273g IE: 3830g Gap: 557g The math is similar for the 0-0-0 8:39 IE. Remaining Gold at Start: 20g Value of 14 waves: 1878g Value of Wraith Stolen @1:40: 33g Approximate Gold Gains from Hawkshot: 239g Gold Gains from TF Passive: 176g Gold Gained by Smiting: 70g Passive Gold Gains (including gp10): 895g Total: 3311g IE: 3830g Gap: 519g Basically for this to be possible the p00n's team would have had to have taken at least one tower or dragon, and/or the p00n would have had to have been taking both jungler's Wraiths consistently. | ||
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Hakanfrog
Sweden690 Posts
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Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
As for what having an AD carry mid does for your team: It allows you to do crazy compositions like a true kill lane bot (panth leona!),1v2 bot with a roamer, or even 1v2 bot and 2v1 top~! | ||
Craton
United States17235 Posts
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TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
I imagine it would be ok vs melee champs like Akali, Gragas or Kat but the ganks are just too damn strong vs Ashe that any self respecting jungler will eat you for breakfast every time you try to cs. The GP10 idea is pretty cool and would be awesome but I don't see why you couldn't build the same in bot lane, get the same amount of gold but less xp and a support to back you up. The lvl doesn't really matter with AD carry, you just need to farm up and get the items you need. I've played a ton of Ashe, and gone mid a couple of times. It would be viable certainly, but if your opponent plays intelligently and just freezes the lane under their tower your lack of an escape mechanism (apart from ulti which is a waste) really hurts. | ||
Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
If you want to do Ashe mid, buy some effective early/mid game items like Brutalizer and Hexdunker. | ||
Craton
United States17235 Posts
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On August 31 2012 08:01 Craton wrote: Hex isn't bad for AD solos, but fuck Brutalizer. That CDR is almost completely wasted and Ghostblade is a horrible ranged carry item. Yeah... AD carries just don't really need CDR, unless your name is Ezreal it's hard to make use of it effectively at all. | ||
Craton
United States17235 Posts
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Garhf
49 Posts
On August 31 2012 09:18 sylverfyre wrote: Yeah... AD carries just don't really need CDR, unless your name is Ezreal it's hard to make use of it effectively at all. hey hey, do not be forgetting urgot the crab-man. s1 urgot mid horrible memories T_T | ||
TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
I'm willing to forfeit a LOT for an 8 minute IE... | ||
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