EPTI used to be fine using twitch with cloth+5 before I got a madred's razor but this bot game I went 13 pots just because I didn't know how much he'd changed. I was down like 9 health pots before I would have had the gold to get a razor in a normal game. I'm done with twitch.
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I used to be fine using twitch with cloth+5 before I got a madred's razor but this bot game I went 13 pots just because I didn't know how much he'd changed. I was down like 9 health pots before I would have had the gold to get a razor in a normal game. I'm done with twitch. | ||
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
On August 19 2012 01:22 phyvo wrote: IP boosts are terrible. When you math it out the time-based boosts can be good if you really want to binge on LoL on a weekend/day but the per win boosts are just not valuable at all. In terms of IP per $ spent rune pages are #1 with champions #2. You're far better off spending all your RP on pages/champions. The only advantage that IP boosts give is that they can be spent on runes, but unless you already have every champion you could ever want to buy you could have just RP bought a champion you were saving for and saved 6300 IP for runes that way. This doesn't even count the champion sales that happen. Yeah but you're spending rp on things you can get with ip, i would figure skins are the best deal because you can ONLY get them with rp and not ip. I'll probably get the 7pages because its like 44k ip. But i'm not sure I even want to do that because its like a legendary skin + normal skin i can get, which i cant even get with IP. Wouldn't the digital collectors pack be the best thing to buy because you're getting 20 champs 1 skin some runes and 1380 rp back? | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 19 2012 05:54 obesechicken13 wrote: Oh my god. They killed jungle twitch. I was just trying him in the jungle 21/9/0 instead of my standard 9/21/0 jungling masteries, but he just takes so much damage now. I don't get it. It looks like nothing's changed for his jungling except his Q uptime is now 5 seconds shorter. Then it's not like he gets anything back late game. His R hits like a sissy to back lines, he can't stealth for long enough to walk past wards even at max rank anymore, and his slow travels about as fast as fucking heimerdinger's grenades. Oh and he can't hide in the long poke wars before engages with his stealth anymore either. I used to be fine using twitch with cloth+5 before I got a madred's razor but this bot game I went 13 pots just because I didn't know how much he'd changed. I was down like 9 health pots before I would have had the gold to get a razor in a normal game. I'm done with twitch. Cloth actually helps a lot more than 8 more pots, and IF jungle twitch is really dead, that's a good thing. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 19 2012 05:38 zulu_nation8 wrote: You only lose lane after giving up one kill if you play the exact same way as you did before. I don't think I've ever seen someone legitimately lose top lane after one death while playing correctly, even at tourney level it doesn't happen. What does happen though is the guy who just died goes up to cs like herpity derpity, gets engaged on, runs, then tries to cs again and dies then goes OMG HES SO FED. Sure, derpage happens. But losing CS and EXP is also a huge part of the "snowball". Granted, this is mostly toplane. Mids mostly can play decently from behind, but toplane can't even get GP5 if they are behind most of the time, because that will just mean death if the other guy has a Phage or something. Not to mention, if top is fed, that probably means the jungler has some bonus gold too, so early Boots of Mobility or GP5 or Oracles or Aegis on him. Also, it depends on the time of firstblood. Part of what makes lvl 1 invades so awesome/risky is if you win and get a doublekill, you come back to lane with a ridiculous advantage. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On August 19 2012 05:54 obesechicken13 wrote: Oh my god. They killed jungle twitch. I was just trying him in the jungle 21/9/0 instead of my standard 9/21/0 jungling masteries, but he just takes so much damage now. I don't get it. It looks like nothing's changed for his jungling except his Q uptime is now 5 seconds shorter. Then it's not like he gets anything back late game. His R hits like a sissy to back lines, he can't stealth for long enough to walk past wards even at max rank anymore, and his slow travels about as fast as fucking heimerdinger's grenades. Oh and he can't hide in the long poke wars before engages with his stealth anymore either. I used to be fine using twitch with cloth+5 before I got a madred's razor but this bot game I went 13 pots just because I didn't know how much he'd changed. I was down like 9 health pots before I would have had the gold to get a razor in a normal game. I'm done with twitch. Twitch's invis is just completely useless now unless I'm missing something major. | ||
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
Also watching m5 i seen that genja maxed e first, what is the thinking behind this? Is it because of runes that people run to shred that off so your attacks/skills do more damage? | ||
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Leonite7
Ireland921 Posts
On August 19 2012 06:35 D u o wrote: I just picked up corki, and every guide says to run a triforce on him. Does that mean I should be doing, Skill>Auto Attack>Skill>Auto>Skill>Auto? This probably would provide the maximum damage however it is highly unlikely you will be able to do this in a hectic teamfight so using your skills then autos is still alright. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
E shreds armor while doing some extra damage, it's good for sustained damage on someone, if you can stick to them (like if you are laning with taric who can stun them in place). | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
 We can always play during the week if you can! | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
On August 19 2012 06:50 IntoTheWow wrote: Triforce has a 2 second cooldown, so it depends. Sometimes you can chain attacks with triforce, sometimes you just throw all you can to kill someone running. I mostly do E auto missile auto missile auto, etc. E shreds armor while doing some extra damage, it's good for sustained damage on someone, if you can stick to them (like if you are laning with taric who can stun them in place). Does that mean I should even go for a triforce right after sheen? Bloodthirster probably seems like a better choice after getting a sheen. A sheen is basically a critical hit every 2 seconds, attack speed on corki doesn't seem to scale well because you can just do an Auto and skill since your R is pretty spammable, you can just abuse your attack speed by adding in your R in-between | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 19 2012 07:01 D u o wrote: Does that mean I should even go for a triforce right after sheen? Bloodthirster probably seems like a better choice after getting a sheen. A sheen is basically a critical hit every 2 seconds, attack speed on corki doesn't seem to scale well because you can just do an Auto and skill since your R is pretty spammable, you can just abuse your attack speed by adding in your R in-between Attack speed is good and scales on ANY ad carry. | ||
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
On August 19 2012 07:04 JackDino wrote: Attack speed is good and scales on ANY ad carry. Well of course but wouldn't more damage be better since I can skip my Auto Attack animation and just do an R instead? auto >R>auto>R with a sheen seems like it would be better than going for an AD into Attack Speed build on corki since you don't have a steroid. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
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Leonite7
Ireland921 Posts
On August 19 2012 07:33 RogerX wrote: So I was watching M5 vs Fnatic and bot lane Corki seemed to move really fast. This might just be my sickness deciving my eyesight, but what was Genja's rune setup? Did he have nunu support? Then he was being bloodboiled. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
On August 19 2012 07:34 Leonite7 wrote: Did he have nunu support? Then he was being bloodboiled. Oh crap yeah he did, my brain feels dead right now. Thanks, dat nunu. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On August 19 2012 06:35 Goshawk. wrote: Twitch's invis is just completely useless now unless I'm missing something major. You get the same attack speed boost they just killed the perma stealth that was stupid to play against in the first place, and has been since long before they started nerfing twitch. The bigass attackspeed steroid has always been the invis selling point imo | ||
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