EPT[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 41
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UniversalSnip
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On August 18 2012 13:49 Amui wrote: After watching the blaze vs frost game, I think a few things are going to be tweaked about Diana. Q mana cost increase. Q hitbox/range decrease. Q damage decreased in some form Chained R's have a small GCD(0.5-0.75 seconds) Her chained R's already have a small global cooldown. Nerfing Q isn't going to address why she's strong. Hitting her Q mana cost could definitely help, but Diana's strong because of her ability to set up aoe extremely well with R+E. Even if you absolutely neuter her Q damage, as long as she can deal decent sustained dps with her skills and reliably go in with moonlight or moonlight-less R's to set up an AOE wombo-combo with E, she'll be a good champion. | ||
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 18 2012 16:33 spinesheath wrote: Most (or at least many) melee champs get free MR. That shouldn't be a huge concern. Obviously it still can be tweaked for balance. I think all melee champs except for gragas? apparently get MR. No ranged champs get mr, nidalee and kayle being hybrid get half the mr/l of melee champs. On August 18 2012 22:39 D u o wrote: How does the xp boost work? tired of grinding my account how much faster will I level if i get it? :o I think an XP boost basically doubles xp, and iirc its like 300 games(w/l) to get to 30, so it should take half that amount or so id say | ||
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Simberto
Germany11508 Posts
Also, what do you mean by "grinding out your account". You can still do the exact same things you would do at 30 (except ranked, but you got a hidden ranking in normals anyways afaik), so really the only thing you gain is an elo number. If you don't find the game fun to play, investing money probably won't change that. And if you find it fun to play, levelling up should not be a problem. Just focus on the game instead of the levels. If you still want it, http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Boost explains how boosts work. Apparently, they double the base xp you gain, while the 4/10 win boosts give you additional xp according to the maximal game length xp. Both can be combined so you get both the effects, but they don't stack multiplicatively. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
seriously even if you get "countered" just get a few ganks and you'll be steamrolling your lane how do people deal with him top anyways besides banning him? | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 18 2012 22:49 arb wrote: I think all melee champs except for gragas? apparently get MR. No ranged champs get mr, nidalee and kayle being hybrid get half the mr/l of melee champs. That's really strange for gragas then. With the way the patch notes have been going in the past few months I expect him to get some mr/lvl. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On August 18 2012 23:21 Conversion wrote: so i just realized that, on my 6-0 streak to plat, how stupid of a champ malphite is in solo queue seriously even if you get "countered" just get a few ganks and you'll be steamrolling your lane how do people deal with him top anyways besides banning him? zz welcome to 2 months ago eu solo q. need to pick shit like riven rumble vlad shen type champs or just ban him. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 18 2012 23:29 obesechicken13 wrote: That's really strange for gragas then. With the way the patch notes have been going in the past few months I expect him to get some mr/lvl. Actually Currently : Gragas/Galio/Maokai/Poppy/Shen/Singed don't gain any.. seems when they have a shield of some kind of defensive steroid they dont get any per level? would think they will add it in for them later though | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On August 19 2012 00:49 arb wrote: Reading Rengars lore, i bet he'll have a hidden passive or some kind of interaction with Cho/Kog I still want to know what happens with Leona+Diana. On August 18 2012 23:21 Conversion wrote: so i just realized that, on my 6-0 streak to plat, how stupid of a champ malphite is in solo queue seriously even if you get "countered" just get a few ganks and you'll be steamrolling your lane how do people deal with him top anyways besides banning him? Play Kennen. Mages are great against him. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On August 18 2012 23:35 Slayer91 wrote: zz welcome to 2 months ago eu solo q. need to pick shit like riven rumble vlad shen type champs or just ban him. You ban him, or pick rumble/jayce into him. Malphite is so stupidly strong that I've been going 5 gp10 runes and masteries into tier 1 boots and triple gp10 and STILL winning most lane matchups. With teleport. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On August 19 2012 00:58 arb wrote: Actually Currently : Gragas/Galio/Maokai/Poppy/Shen/Singed don't gain any.. seems when they have a shield of some kind of defensive steroid they dont get any per level? would think they will add it in for them later though Well, all of them have some sort of very powerful self-buff that makes them incredibly tanky. Gragas has his ale, Galio has Bulwark, Maokai has his ulti and is naturally very tanky with high base HP, Poppy has her imba passive, Singed has his ult. Shen only has a shield, but he's already incredibly powerful so it's very unlikely he'll ever be receiving any buffs anytime soon. It's also important to note that Galio doesn't have mr/lvl probably also because if they gave him that he'd also be getting AP/lvl due to his passive. Honestly, none of the champs you named need MR/lvl and in most cases, giving them MR/lvl would probably make them a bit too strong/unkillable. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 19 2012 01:03 dae wrote: You ban him, or pick rumble/jayce into him. Malphite is so stupidly strong that I've been going 5 gp10 runes and masteries into tier 1 boots and triple gp10 and STILL winning most lane matchups. With teleport. To be fair teleport is probably a stronger laning summoner than just about anything else imo. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 18 2012 22:55 Simberto wrote: I doubt it can be recommended, since you will still have the problem that then you don't have enough IP at max level. Of course, if you then buy all your champions for RP, you can probably afford 2 runepages, so you should be fine. Still, i think there are better ways to invest your money then an XP boost. Champions, skins, or IP boosts are all more useful in my opinion. Also, what do you mean by "grinding out your account". You can still do the exact same things you would do at 30 (except ranked, but you got a hidden ranking in normals anyways afaik), so really the only thing you gain is an elo number. If you don't find the game fun to play, investing money probably won't change that. And if you find it fun to play, levelling up should not be a problem. Just focus on the game instead of the levels. If you still want it, http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Boost explains how boosts work. Apparently, they double the base xp you gain, while the 4/10 win boosts give you additional xp according to the maximal game length xp. Both can be combined so you get both the effects, but they don't stack multiplicatively. IP boosts are terrible. When you math it out the time-based boosts can be good if you really want to binge on LoL on a weekend/day but the per win boosts are just not valuable at all. In terms of IP per $ spent rune pages are #1 with champions #2. You're far better off spending all your RP on pages/champions. The only advantage that IP boosts give is that they can be spent on runes, but unless you already have every champion you could ever want to buy you could have just RP bought a champion you were saving for and saved 6300 IP for runes that way. This doesn't even count the champion sales that happen. | ||
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Celial
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On August 19 2012 01:29 Celial wrote: I just redeemed my Riot Graves and Full Metal Rammus codes. Graves skin is kinda cool. Nothing earth shattering. His grenade launcher is actually animated (ejects a shell when he fires), but thats about it. The sound of the launcher is cool too, sounds actually as if a tear gas grenade is being fired. Now, Rammus. Rammus Rammus Rammus. Holy fuck that skin is great. New animations all around. He now actually skips around instead of swaying from left to right like a drunk. Did I mention the awesome new animations? Holy fuck, Full Metal Rammus is AWESOME. ok edit: Thank you for a nice review of the two new skins | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On August 19 2012 01:13 obesechicken13 wrote: To be fair teleport is probably a stronger laning summoner than just about anything else imo. no it's not. A number of matchups depend on the offensive summoner. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 19 2012 01:48 barbsq wrote: no it's not. A number of matchups depend on the offensive summoner. I'd contest this claim but I'm afraid I'd be called out on my elo. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On August 19 2012 01:57 obesechicken13 wrote: I'd contest this claim but I'm afraid I'd be called out on my elo. Teleport is probably the best defensive laning summoner, but there are some champs that absolutely rely on having ignite so they have that extra offensive edge they need to win lanes. | ||
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