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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 28 2012 03:01 GMT
#3341
I sense there will be many "favors" being provided soon....... o.e
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
August 28 2012 03:21 GMT
#3342
How do you deal with heavy counter jungling? I just played 5 games in a row as jungle naut and lost because so many nunu/ls/shaco counter jungle. I'm not sure how to be less of a burden if they invade and steal buffs how do I recover?
wot?
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
August 28 2012 03:28 GMT
#3343
On August 28 2012 12:21 D u o wrote:
How do you deal with heavy counter jungling? I just played 5 games in a row as jungle naut and lost because so many nunu/ls/shaco counter jungle. I'm not sure how to be less of a burden if they invade and steal buffs how do I recover?


As Nautilus? I'm pretty sure you just don't recover which is why pro players don't use him anymore
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 28 2012 03:30 GMT
#3344
Kill the guy. It's your jungle. It's like someone coming into your house and stealing your ice cream. Kill the fker! Ping for you lanes to converge on him. If they're too stupid to do so, then they don't deserve ganks and the lane control from a jungler and receiving buffs from you so they deserve to lose.

Could also gamble and camp a lane and pray to get a gank off if nothing else works.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 28 2012 03:32 GMT
#3345
On August 28 2012 12:21 D u o wrote:
How do you deal with heavy counter jungling? I just played 5 games in a row as jungle naut and lost because so many nunu/ls/shaco counter jungle. I'm not sure how to be less of a burden if they invade and steal buffs how do I recover?

If you have a feeling that the enemy jungler is going to steal your buff, like for example Mundo/Shyvana/Shaco/Nunu are pretty common counterjunglers, just ask your support nicely to ward your buff brush, and if you see him there, just mass ping and hopefully your team is fast enough to converge and pick up a easy first blood
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 03:36:23
August 28 2012 03:33 GMT
#3346
You don't really pick Nautilus to farm the jungle :s

just ask your team to get you smiteless blue, and then run straight to red and smite it for level 3.

Then you camp the crap out of an escapeless pushing laner like mordekaiser.

The only way you could possibly get counterjungled is if their team grouped up in an effort to stop your blue/steal your red which doesn't happen very often in solo queue.

EDIT: if you rush straight to red after smiteless blue, there's no way in hell it can be gone unless they started there.
another tip: If the enemy top laner / bot lane misses a creep pulling that's a huge hint that their jungler got a smiteless buff and might be saving it to use on yours.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 03:38:41
August 28 2012 03:38 GMT
#3347
Counterjungling Nautilus is really, really easy because of how weak he is from lvl 1-3. Unless your mid is significantly stronger early game than the enemy, it's incredibly difficult to do anything about strong counterjunglers except avoiding it altogether by asking your support to ward the wraith entrance and counterjungling if you are getting counterjungled, or open wraith -> red to try and make your path less predictable. If you get screwed with during your first clear then you're fucked, clear and simple.
tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 03:43:03
August 28 2012 03:42 GMT
#3348
Did they nerf nunu this patch or last patch? I just started playing him top following smash's build and I have dominated every time I played him.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 28 2012 03:47 GMT
#3349
They only nerfed his ice ball slow duration by 4->3 seconds which honestly did not hurt the build for top dominance at all
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 28 2012 03:51 GMT
#3350
They haven't nerfed nunu. The snowball duration nerf is expected in the next patch.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 28 2012 04:22 GMT
#3351
no tip to stop counterjungle except to be more experienced and expect where he will be, if he comes get your team to collapse.
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
August 28 2012 04:45 GMT
#3352
so Dyrus claims AP Rengar is op as hell. anyone have any experience with/against it?
jaedong forever~
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 28 2012 04:46 GMT
#3353
Is Diana nerfed yet?
Freeeeeeedom
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
August 28 2012 04:59 GMT
#3354
so Dyrus claims AP Rengar is op as hell. anyone have any experience with/against it?


I have no idea how that would even work. He has one AP scaling ability on a long cooldown, what would you even build?

I can see a double battle roar chunking a group of people for a fair bit, and he'd have no trouble proccing lichbane if he got to it, but his kit just doesn't synergise at all with straight AP. Hybrid I could see, gunblade/rageblade *maybe*.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 28 2012 05:03 GMT
#3355
Pool Party Ziggs

[image loading]

Who is that on the lower left? Jayce? I managed to identify everyone except him.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 28 2012 05:06 GMT
#3356
The pendant would suggest that he's one of the Demacians, which makes Garen most likely.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 28 2012 05:09 GMT
#3357
Oh man, looks like Lifeguard Renekton might be on the horizon too? I need that skin already. <_<
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 05:12:23
August 28 2012 05:12 GMT
#3358
Yes it is probably garen. The hair colour matches, too.


On August 28 2012 14:09 zer0das wrote:
Oh man, looks like Lifeguard Renekton might be on the horizon too? I need that skin already. <_<


I rather see bikini Ahri/Leona/Diana/Riven.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 05:13:57
August 28 2012 05:13 GMT
#3359
On August 28 2012 14:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Yes it is probably garen. The hair colour matches, too.


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 14:09 zer0das wrote:
Oh man, looks like Lifeguard Renekton might be on the horizon too? I need that skin already. <_<


I rather see bikini Ahri/Leona/Diana/Riven.

I dunno dude, pool cleaner yorick looks pretty badass.

wait whos bottom right? draven?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 28 2012 05:15 GMT
#3360
I've been waiting on Lifeguard Renekton for nearly a year now. And now I can actually play Renekton pretty well. RELEASE THE CROC!
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