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On August 25 2012 21:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Am I the only one who sucks with Graves
MF is still the best ranged dps of all time omg me and you the same <3s
Ezreal changes make me happy. Triforce returnssssssss
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Ok, so I have a serious question. Right after Dyrus crushed face with Kayle in some IPL or whatever everyone started playing Kayle - why did they stop?
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On August 26 2012 04:45 EquilasH wrote: Ok, so I have a serious question. Right after Dyrus crushed face with Kayle in some IPL or whatever everyone started playing Kayle - why did they stop? Not sure but I'm glad they did. She's super obnoxious to play against
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I think I heard from oddone that they only like to run kayle together with noc and karthus.
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TSM like to play certain chain combos together, Yorick/Cass, Kayle/Karthus, Ken/Vlad based on their opposition. I'm fairly certain most of it has to do with trying to keep them fresh and not overuse them all, though it could be that they don't fit into their current style.
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On August 26 2012 04:45 EquilasH wrote: Ok, so I have a serious question. Right after Dyrus crushed face with Kayle in some IPL or whatever everyone started playing Kayle - why did they stop? because he stopped playing kayle and fanboyism mode got shut down
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I'm not asking why Dyrus specifically stopped playing Kayle, but people seem to know she's strong as fuck - that still doesn't change the fact that no one plays her..
On August 26 2012 05:22 Craton wrote: Also, Darius came out.
Why would this have any impact? Afaik, Kayle is a counter to Darius.
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guess i can stop practicing rengar in normal drafts lol. hes real bad, you shouldnt play him.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On August 26 2012 05:34 Vaporized wrote:guess i can stop practicing rengar in normal drafts lol. hes real bad, you shouldnt play him. + Show Spoiler +
This explains everything.
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On August 25 2012 17:41 Node wrote: Man, is it just me or has Graves been nerfed at least every other patch since he was released? Really makes you realize how ludicrously OP he was when he came out.
I'm pretty sure the fact he was instantly blowing you up at level 6 when he first came out (provided he hadn't killed you with buckshot yet) was when people realized how stupid overpowered he was.
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On August 26 2012 05:42 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 17:41 Node wrote: Man, is it just me or has Graves been nerfed at least every other patch since he was released? Really makes you realize how ludicrously OP he was when he came out. I'm pretty sure the fact he was instantly blowing you up at level 6 when he first came out (provided he hadn't killed you with buckshot yet) was when people realized how stupid overpowered he was.
I remember when he first came out, I would go graves mid with all ad runepage and beat many casters is burst dmg lol
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i felt like corki and graves were fine...
graves already naturally has a low attackspeed so why mess with that....
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On August 26 2012 05:51 heroyi wrote: i felt like corki and graves were fine...
graves already naturally has a low attackspeed so why mess with that.... Huh? Graves attackspeed and attackspeed growth are about average.
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Graves is fine the only annoying thing is his lvl6 burst with taric, smokescreen can be really annoying, and his passive is annoying. But it's just that, annoying. Except for his lvl6 taric/leona burst. He has low range, he needs to somewhat push to keep his passive up etc. He doesn't even see that much play in tourneys.
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Graves is fine except for smokescreen which is a bullshit ability.
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On August 26 2012 06:13 JackDino wrote: Graves is fine the only annoying thing is his lvl6 burst with taric, smokescreen can be really annoying, and his passive is annoying. But it's just that, annoying. Except for his lvl6 taric/leona burst. He has low range, he needs to somewhat push to keep his passive up etc. He doesn't even see that much play in tourneys.
I am pretty sure that he doesn't need to push to keep up his passive. He can cancel his attack animation and his passive will still stack*.
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On August 26 2012 06:15 TwoToneTerran wrote: Graves is fine except for smokescreen which is a bullshit ability.
Yeah, Smokescreen like the strongest ability in the game as far as soloqueue is concerned.
Way way way too strong.
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On August 26 2012 06:23 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 06:13 JackDino wrote: Graves is fine the only annoying thing is his lvl6 burst with taric, smokescreen can be really annoying, and his passive is annoying. But it's just that, annoying. Except for his lvl6 taric/leona burst. He has low range, he needs to somewhat push to keep his passive up etc. He doesn't even see that much play in tourneys. I am pretty sure that he doesn't need to push to keep up his passive. He can cancel his attack animation and his passive will still stuck.
I've heard this, but I've never been able to do this.
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On August 26 2012 05:34 Vaporized wrote:guess i can stop practicing rengar in normal drafts lol. hes real bad, you shouldnt play him. + Show Spoiler + It's still just low ELO normals.
I could probably stomp with about any hero take a picture of it and call it beast mode
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