EPTOn August 26 2012 06:28 Dusty wrote:
I've heard this, but I've never been able to do this.
I've heard this, but I've never been able to do this.
Used to be an old bug with Jax passive that was fixed. I haven't been able to recreate it on Graves.
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Used to be an old bug with Jax passive that was fixed. I haven't been able to recreate it on Graves. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On August 26 2012 04:45 EquilasH wrote: Ok, so I have a serious question. Right after Dyrus crushed face with Kayle in some IPL or whatever everyone started playing Kayle - why did they stop? Running a squishy ranged carry/pusher top instead of the usual tanky bruiser requires different team comps and teamfight strategies. I haven't been playing much but this jayce bro looks like the best of both worlds. Maybe if I play with voices off, change his splash art and block his background lore from my mind he'd be my new favorite champ (<3 hybrids) | ||
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On August 26 2012 06:32 arb wrote: It's still just low ELO normals. I could probably stomp with about any hero take a picture of it and call it beast mode do you seriously think that someone who is better then me wont be able to do the same in higher ranked games? ok 20-1 is a bit much, but i wasnt 20-1 in all those games. if you really, truly believe that then i dont know what to say. i didnt post that to brag, i posted that to show people he is worth putting some time into. im well aware they are normals. you know what, i use normals to practice a champ, especially new ones until i feel really comfortable playing them. once you get used to how he plays you can do very well with him. its not like i have some secret on how to play him, or im abusing some bug. his ganks are just nuts, the only other champ i can compare him to is shaco. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
On August 26 2012 07:02 Vaporized wrote: do you seriously think that someone who is better then me wont be able to do the same in higher ranked games? ok 20-1 is a bit much, but i wasnt 20-1 in all those games. if you really, truly believe that then i dont know what to say. i didnt post that to brag, i posted that to show people he is worth putting some time into. im well aware they are normals. you know what, i use normals to practice a champ, especially new ones until i feel really comfortable playing them. once you get used to how he plays you can do very well with him. its not like i have some secret on how to play him, or im abusing some bug. his ganks are just nuts, the only other champ i can compare him to is shaco. I don't understand your argument. You're saying that, because you (as a low elo player) did well in a low elo environment, a higher elo player should be able to do it in a high elo environment. This argument does not work for several reasons; probably the main one being that certain stuff simply stops working. Making AD master yi work at low elo is not that hard, as opponents have awful focus and suck at harassing you in lane. In high elo it's stupidly hard to make work, regardless of how skilled the opponent is. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
because i keep laughing at people who pick him and if he's good then i can't laugh anymore do you really want me not to laugh anymore?! | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 26 2012 07:23 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: I don't understand your argument. You're saying that, because you (as a low elo player) did well in a low elo environment, a higher elo player should be able to do it in a high elo environment. This argument does not work for several reasons; probably the main one being that certain stuff simply stops working. Making AD master yi work at low elo is not that hard, as opponents have awful focus and suck at harassing you in lane. In high elo it's stupidly hard to make work, regardless of how skilled the opponent is. Since it was a draft normal, and not a ranked, no one actually knows his normal elo, none of the sites that claim they can tell your normal elo actually work. If he was so good that he could stomp with any champ 8 games in a row then he shouldn't be at that elo at all. I think that what he's saying is, if he's a low elo player who's decent at the game and does very well with 1 champion, a better player should be able to do well with him as well, regardless of elo. As for your example, I've seen tons of AD yi work at higher elos, both in lane and obviously jungle. | ||
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Craton
United States17298 Posts
You can't actually see it any more because fuck Riot (they disabled it after someone made a site / program to show it), but at the time you could look at people and they were generally +/- 150. Those who were further away than that were usually higher in normals than in ranked). | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On August 26 2012 07:32 Craton wrote: If you've played any amount of normal and draft games, you'll find your Elo between the two is actually pretty similar. You can't actually see it any more because fuck Riot (they disabled it after someone made a site / program to show it), but at the time you could look at people and they were generally +/- 150. Those who were further away than that were usually higher in normals than in ranked). like me T.T on another topic.... anyways, i dunno why u guys are all discrediting vaporized for his rengar screen. Sure, I don't necessarily agree with the logic/math behind most of his builds, but you can't just mindlessly declare 5+ wins in a row on rengar as being useless information, regardless of whether it's normals or not. Clearly, he's doing something that's working. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 26 2012 07:54 barbsq wrote: like me T.T on another topic.... anyways, i dunno why u guys are all discrediting vaporized for his rengar screen. Sure, I don't necessarily agree with the logic/math behind most of his builds, but you can't just mindlessly declare 5+ wins in a row on rengar as being useless information, regardless of whether it's normals or not. Clearly, he's doing something that's working. Yeah, he's actually playing the champ and not just saying new champ bad when he's been out for like 3 days or something. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On August 26 2012 06:24 iCanada wrote: Yeah, Smokescreen like the strongest ability in the game as far as soloqueue is concerned. Way way way too strong. Requiem. Nuff said. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
It's a strong contender for strongest non-ultimate ability in the game. Nocturne's ulti is a bit stronger than smokescreen. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11933 Posts
On August 26 2012 07:56 JackDino wrote: Yeah, he's actually playing the champ and not just saying new champ bad when he's been out for like 3 days or something. Add to that that someone asked him what he was building, and then people started to flame him for telling what he built. I usually tend to not agree with most of what he says, but that was retarded. I kind of want to try rengar, because what i have seen so far shows some potential, but i don't really want to spend 6k ip on him when almost everyone says he is bad. He should be f2p in a week or 2, then i will try to get a look at him. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On August 26 2012 08:32 Simberto wrote: Add to that that someone asked him what he was building, and then people started to flame him for telling what he built. I usually tend to not agree with most of what he says, but that was retarded. I kind of want to try rengar, because what i have seen so far shows some potential, but i don't really want to spend 6k ip on him when almost everyone says he is bad. He should be f2p in a week or 2, then i will try to get a look at him. Well hopefully he'll stay and keep posting, I enjoy reading some of what he posts even though I disagree with some of it. On August 26 2012 08:32 Simberto wrote: Add to that that someone asked him what he was building, and then people started to flame him for telling what he built. I usually tend to not agree with most of what he says, but that was retarded. I kind of want to try rengar, because what i have seen so far shows some potential, but i don't really want to spend 6k ip on him when almost everyone says he is bad. He should be f2p in a week or 2, then i will try to get a look at him. Should be free next week I think | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
CLG bans: Olaf, Yorick, Alistar TD picks: Rumble, Gragas//Corki, Nunu//Skarner CLG picks: Shen//Sona, Morde//Graves, Jayce | ||
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Craton
United States17298 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On August 26 2012 08:32 Simberto wrote: Add to that that someone asked him what he was building, and then people started to flame him for telling what he built. I usually tend to not agree with most of what he says, but that was retarded. I kind of want to try rengar, because what i have seen so far shows some potential, but i don't really want to spend 6k ip on him when almost everyone says he is bad. He should be f2p in a week or 2, then i will try to get a look at him. i knew no matter what build i posted people would find something wrong with it. i didnt post the build for them. i posted it for the one person who asked what i built. i also hadnt seen any other rengar builds in this thread, and i was hoping someone else would post theirs, but that didnt really happen (maybe there was one other build posted, but then again, why would anyone post another build when everyone shit on mine?). honestly, i tend to tune out the 'extraneous noise' on this forum. people spit up the same tired nonsense over and over without ever really THINKING about what they are saying, they are just parroting someone else's opinion. its also amusing to see everyone here is an expert on everything LoL related, and if you dare disagree with something then you are a stupid 'low elo noob'. like the guy who said you cant play ad yi in high elo games. i immediately didnt give a shit what he said. ive watched enough streams to know that high elo is a crapshoot just like low elo. i am more then willing to admit when i am wrong about something, and oftentimes i want to be proven wrong. but you have to come up with a compelling argument. you cant just spout the same shit thats always said. say something compelling and with proof and i will listen to what you say. like the rengar q vs w max debate, or a while ago my ryze build. people convinced me with sound logic that i was wrong and im totally fine with that, it makes me a better player, which is ultimately the reason i come to this forum. even hecarims now semi-legendary triforce, pd, pd build ive said several times that maybe that wasnt the smartest plan because people convinced me otherwise (i do actually still play that build when i smurf with my brother and it is a blast). i find people's fixation on that build amusing. is this forum perfect? haha, no. is it the best LoL forum ive found? absolutely. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
i mean you can, but you're going to continue to be mocked any time your build is based on getting fed, you're going to be mocked any time you build more offense than defense, on a melee champ, you're going to (first, never gain elo, and second,) continue to be mocked you can play victim but let's be real, your builds are bad and better players are telling you why. you don't have to be a martyr about it just start building champs better let it be noted, that i as have never seen rengar in a game yet, i don't know if your build is bad. this post is just directed toward your general "I WIN 5 GAMES I'M A BEAST AT THIS CHAMP HERE'S MY PRO BUILD" attitude | ||
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