EPT[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 3
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 02 2012 01:22 Requizen wrote: Anyone get the feeling that Malph may still be a bit too strong? I have yet to see a game where he doesn't completely roll top or jungle, or at least go even. Have yet to see one fail for some reason :S As long as nunu exists, malph ain't no thang but a chicken wing. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 02 2012 01:04 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Eve is fine atm. As far as I have seen, people have not been trying to experiment with her enough and just try to shoe-horn her into existing archetypes and see it doesn't work and demand buffs. The thing is, the type of gank-oriented or split-push based teamcomps that Eve is good in are the type of teamcomps that Riot hates to be good. Realistically teamfight-based team compositions are really the only ones Riot stably and consistently has treated as "good gameplay". And as a melee with no jump-like gap closer and one long-CD soft CC, her teamfighting is decidedly mediocre. | ||
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101toss
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On August 02 2012 01:36 TheYango wrote: The thing is, the type of gank-oriented or split-push based teamcomps that Eve is good in are the type of teamcomps that Riot hates to be good. Realistically teamfight-based team compositions are really the only ones Riot stably and consistently has treated as "good gameplay". And as a melee with no jump-like gap closer and one long-CD soft CC, her teamfighting is decidedly mediocre. Yup. I think one of the problems is that currently LoL doesn't properly support counterplay against gank squads or splitpush outside of your team compositions which makes counterplay difficult. It'll be interesting to see the new changes for Season 3. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 02 2012 00:30 Dgiese wrote: I routinely tell all my lanes to do this in solo q. My view of leadership is that I can unite the team against a common foe (myself) propelling solo q teamwork to unprecedented heights. Most of my teammates already follow this mentality. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
On August 02 2012 02:29 mordek wrote: How often do they have rune sales like they did for Christmas and Halloween? Are those pretty much the only times? Pretty much. You're gonna have to wait a few months :/ ^Edit: there were full rank 3 runes I believe (and 2.5 as well) at a discounted rate | ||
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Hakanfrog
Sweden690 Posts
Atleast the Lulu and Soraka nerfs made sense, this Janna nerf is just dumb. She farms well but that´s pretty much everything she does, she does lower damage than any other AP and the only thing that makes it worth it giving her farm is her shield. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On August 02 2012 02:53 101toss wrote: Pretty much. You're gonna have to wait a few months :/ ^Edit: there were full rank 3 runes I believe (and 2.5 as well) at a discounted rate Pretty sure Christmas had MS quints that were the same bonus but cheaper. I wasn't level 20 then though T.T Been waiting since... | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 02 2012 01:36 TheYango wrote: The thing is, the type of gank-oriented or split-push based teamcomps that Eve is good in are the type of teamcomps that Riot hates to be good. Realistically teamfight-based team compositions are really the only ones Riot stably and consistently has treated as "good gameplay". And as a melee with no jump-like gap closer and one long-CD soft CC, her teamfighting is decidedly mediocre. I feel like there's something off about the assertion that her teamfighting is bad. Starting fights with everyone on the enemy team slowed and missing a third of their health doesn't strike me as bad for teamfighting. That alone doesn't make her a great teamfighter, but surely it makes her better than mediocre. In general I feel like damage itself is undervalued in teamfights, and Eve isn't lacking in that regard. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On August 02 2012 00:18 Sickworld wrote: Interestingly enough it seems like the more significant buff to cho is the scaling mr. the rest i dont think its going to make a difference besides the bug fix on rupture but now hen you get big you feel big | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 02 2012 03:09 Seuss wrote: I feel like there's something off about the assertion that her teamfighting is bad. Starting fights with everyone on the enemy team slowed and missing a third of their health doesn't strike me as bad for teamfighting. That alone doesn't make her a great teamfighter, but surely it makes her better than mediocre. I'm not sure how you're getting "missing a third of their health" from a spell that does 25% max HP damage pre-MR at max rank, unless you're somehow getting 350 AP off of jungle farm. Realistically you're probably looking at damage more in the range of 10%-12% max HP throughout the entire game. And a slow is a significantly weaker form of initiation than any harder CC available because a slow cannot stop the vast majority of counter-initiating options in the game. On August 02 2012 03:09 Seuss wrote: In general I feel like damage itself is undervalued in teamfights, and Eve isn't lacking in that regard. Damage isn't undervalued on the roles that have the means to reliably put it out consistently (people have no problems eschewing utility in favor of damage on ranged AP/AD because they're ranged). A melee with no consistent CC or jump-like gap closer generally has problems doing that. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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