EPTOn August 10 2012 22:04 wei2coolman wrote:
Don't understand teemo changes... I thought he was in a very good place already.
Don't understand teemo changes... I thought he was in a very good place already.
a place called never played?
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imre
France9263 Posts
a place called never played? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Except the fact that he's pretty fucking dominant toplaner when you want to be complete douche and completely counterpick the enemy top laner. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On August 10 2012 22:08 wei2coolman wrote: Except the fact that he's pretty fucking dominant toplaner when you want to be complete douche and completely counterpick the enemy top laner. lane phase is not his problem but he falls off when you reach lategame. :/ If you cant kill the enemy oracle you will lose all your shrooms which is not good. But if you can kill the enemy oracle and the enemy team does not buy another. Then he is really scary | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
Is Rumble still OP enough to choose? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 10 2012 22:14 Doctorbeat wrote: So I'm close to 4800 IP now, and I'm stuck between two champions to choose from. Ori and Rumble. Is Rumble still OP enough to choose? I've still got 100% win rate with him. He's not as derpy as before, but definitely still strong. Ori is also very very strong, especially if you have a tanky initiator (malph, amumu). Up to you, they're both good and fun. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On August 10 2012 22:14 Doctorbeat wrote: So I'm close to 4800 IP now, and I'm stuck between two champions to choose from. Ori and Rumble. Is Rumble still OP enough to choose? Orianna 1000x more fun than rumble, not commenting on power level. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 10 2012 22:13 Chexx wrote: lane phase is not his problem but he falls off when you reach lategame. :/ If you cant kill the enemy oracle you will lose all your shrooms which is not good. But if you can kill the enemy oracle and the enemy team does not buy another. Then he is really scary There are plenty of champions that fall off lategame, it's completely normal game design. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On August 10 2012 22:00 jcarlsoniv wrote: hey wusslee, how do you feel about the zyra nerfs? have you gotten to play her much since? Aren't they live on the actual client right now? From what I've seen on PBE, she still plays pretty much the same, I can't really say much more than that because I never was good enough with her lol. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On August 10 2012 21:23 PH wrote: I read somewhere that Orianna was going to get another set of buffs soon. Can anyone confirm this? It really depends. It seems to me like, provided you're both fairly even, if the melee champ manages to get to you, then you're in trouble as Teemo. Teemo can bully melee champs up top, but he can be punished extremely easily as well. Good top players who abuse brush, make full use of their kits, and/or who get decent help from the jungler will make the lane iffy (unless it's a champ Teemo just poops on, like Trynd or something). Once you hit six you have complete brush control and if they jump on you unless they have a stun along with the jump you can just QW and kite them. I think Teemo is awful vs a champ like Yorick (Fuck I hate him so much) but I haven't found a bruiser (Except maybe Nidalee?) that can beat him. Like of course if you get camped it can be hard and if you get behind you get zoned pretty bad because you are squishy and they will just be able to one combo you at certain points, but I always found you can just zone them (Especially really early when they dont have their full kit). | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 10 2012 23:04 schmutttt wrote: Once you hit six you have complete brush control and if they jump on you unless they have a stun along with the jump you can just QW and kite them. I think Teemo is awful vs a champ like Yorick (Fuck I hate him so much) but I haven't found a bruiser (Except maybe Nidalee?) that can beat him. Like of course if you get camped it can be hard and if you get behind you get zoned pretty bad because you are squishy and they will just be able to one combo you at certain points, but I always found you can just zone them (Especially really early when they dont have their full kit). I've never picked a non-ranged non-Yorick champ in lane with Teemo and come out anywhere close to equal on farm or anything. It's ALWAYS a struggle to survive. I had really good success with Kayle once, but that's just because I could range him right back in the face. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 10 2012 22:40 wussleeQ wrote: Aren't they live on the actual client right now? From what I've seen on PBE, she still plays pretty much the same, I can't really say much more than that because I never was good enough with her lol. yes, they are live. I was just looking for feedback from people, and I thought you were one to play her a bunch. I think they hit her pretty correctly. They nailed her safety in general (speed and range), and shaved a bit off her burst. You have to be way smarter to play her well. Unfortunately, this has resulted in a lot of Zyras on my team feeding. | ||
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Blyf
Denmark408 Posts
Then add the brand new window of abuse being embraced by every last troll in lol. Don't like your team comp? Instalock heimer with surge and promote and call jungle. Let everyone else deal with the 30 min no-queue punishment and you can't get reported. Edit: Was wondering how to get Riot's attention regarding this matter, but do people even care or is it just me? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22675 Posts
On August 10 2012 23:21 Blyf wrote: Removing the dodge penalty from ranked queue is the worst decision Riot has made since I started playing this game. Enough for me to consider to stop playing. Right now I had 5 consecutive dodges, 2 of them in the last sec. That makes for a total of 25 minutes of pick/draft. Really Riot, how do you think that meshes with a normal working day where you have time for a couple of games after work? I don't even give a shit about Elo, just wanna play some proper games. Then add the brand new window of abuse being embraced by every last troll in lol. Don't like your team comp? Instalock heimer with surge and promote and call jungle. Let everyone else deal with the 30 min no-queue punishment and you can't get reported. Why would I dodge ever? 20min surrender is faster then dodging and you get to report the guy. People care way to much about elo. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 10 2012 23:24 Gorsameth wrote: Why would I dodge ever? 20min surrender is faster then dodging and you get to report the guy. People care way to much about elo. *shrug* I dodged my last game last night because the whole night was full of people whining and trolling. This game was no different with our last pick whining for ad the whole time, and then when our 3rd pick takes raka so 5th pick CAN ad, 5th pick bitches about having raka support. Didn't feel like dealing with it anymore, told the team I was dodging it and most of my team thanked me for it. There are certainly times that I like the lack of penalty, but I do think it's stupid as well. | ||
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Icysoul
Canada254 Posts
tldr garen earlier game is decidedly worse to make his late game tankier. garen is still sht as if you want true tank, go play udyr or chogath if malphite wasn't banned. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
While none of these abilities are anything special on their own, he just has a lot of things in his toolbox. While his mobility seems somewhat limited due to his lack of a dash, that doesn't stop people like Skarner, Udyr, or Darius from being very scary (just commenting on mobility, not kits altogether). I'll not say anything substantial until I see him played and check out his numbers, but a manaless champ with a large toolkit and good tankiness, utility, and damage baseline has all the signs of being something very strong. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
with so many manaless champions (including diana, darius, draven, all new releases have such trivial mana costs they might as well not be there) it just really gimps mana-using champions if you want some champs to be bullshit why not just make them all bullshit /dotaapproach | ||
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Arekan
United States248 Posts
On August 10 2012 23:48 justiceknight wrote: i read lots of guides for Irelia at TSM's site and lots of them have different runes for her like attk speed,flat dmg,armor pen for the reds.Which 1 is more efficient for Irelia? And any guide to lane as her such as trade blows. I would suggest looking at Wickd's Irelia guide on CLG's site. | ||
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