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On August 10 2012 16:19 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 16:12 mr_tolkien wrote:On August 10 2012 16:06 HazMat wrote:On August 10 2012 16:02 mr_tolkien wrote:On August 10 2012 15:40 HazMat wrote:
I might as well be playing draft normals. I don't see the difference between draft normals and ranked except that you have more precise stats in ranked... Which is why I play it. «SOLO» in a game of 5v5 isn't seriously competitive anyway. Have you heard about the last tournament without premade teams but only players coming solo ? I haven't. You mean like teams that were built off of High Elo players that gained exposure by consistently doing well on top streams? Yeah I've heard of Team Dynamic, Orbit Gaming... hell even the early TSM and CLG. Every single player on a top team has become a top player through the means of solo queue. Name 1 high Elo player on a pro team that isn't above 2k. I can only think of Regi (he was 2.5k before he started managing the site and team) and I can think of L0CUST who was a suppot player and got the boot for "not being good enough at support." No, pure solo, like every well known competitive tournament ever you know. Stop being so butthurt about your elo for christ sake, in every patch topic we have people complaining about how they don't win elo fast enough, how they should be more rewarded for blah blah blah, how the system sucks, ... Just friggin play, the solo Q ladder is quite possibly as accurate is it can be ! And duo queues are very nice, especially since there is a duo lane in most games... I mostly duo with my ex who is 1k4 elo and plays only AD carry, and I HAVE FUN playing as a support with her. And since I never play normals my rating there is too low to have fun. Stop attacking me bro. If you haven't noticed I won both those games so I'm not mad abuot getting free Elo. I'm mad that this is in the system because it is obviously flawed. You say it is as accurate as it can be but I'm saying it's not. Things like this can improve it. You may be having fun playing with your 1400 Elo ex but are your teammates? What Ryuu said is spot on. I've gone up in Elo and I've felt myself im prove as a player. I'm happy to be at an Elo where I feel I can outplayed but can be outplayed. I can't get that in any other queue. And the reason I've gotten to an Elo where I feel like I fit is through playing a lot of solo queue and improving. Maybe you're a super pro 2k that can win games by duoing with his ex and that's great for you but how are you going to improve? You probably don't care about improving and just want to have fun and that's great, but that's what normals are for. edit: And just to make sure; I'm not saying duo queue should be removed. I just saying there should be an Elo gap. Maybe like 200, I don't know. Just some sort of barrier that still allows people to duo queue but have them play in their Elo bracket.
Yeah you're just making baseless assumptions.
I play only for improving, but I don't need to win 12 elo instead of 6 to know it. The only real solution would be to remove duo queue. As long as it's there, the «solo» ladder cannot and will never be a real competitive scene, but that's not a problem since it's made for being mildly competitive since it's not how the game is supposed to be played anyway !
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Feast now deals 1000 (+0.7) true damage to minions, up from 1000.
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So first you talk about how you duo with your ex and play support because it's fun and now you're saying you play for improving. So if you play to improve, but you're okay with having people of lesser skill in the same game as you? Por que?
And again, people trash talk solo queue all the time but honestly the whole competitive scene came from solo queue. It might not always be super close tryhard games but good players will come out on top and form teams.
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PBE Patch Notes
Big buffs to (AP) Kayle and Teemo's asshole status in lane. Garen changes; he probably still sucks. Varus got a buff on his W ratio, kinda pointless since it still scales off AP afaik. AP Cho'gath now #1 Baron stealer.
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lol Kat's new W. 750 range =/= Crescent Slash, that's for sure.
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On August 10 2012 17:21 TheYango wrote:
lol Kat's new W. 750 range =/= Crescent Slash, that's for sure.
Kat's new W looks so OP unless it's easily dodgeable. 750 range harass for free on a 4 second cooldown? Yesplz
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On August 10 2012 17:11 HazMat wrote:
So first you talk about how you duo with your ex and play support because it's fun and now you're saying you play for improving. So if you play to improve, but you're okay with having people of lesser skill in the same game as you? Por que?
And again, people trash talk solo queue all the time but honestly the whole competitive scene came from solo queue. It might not always be super close tryhard games but good players will come out on top and form teams.
Well, if for you playing support is not trying to improve, I think we might disagree somewhere... And as a matter of fact, playing support with lower ranked player than you teaches a lot. You will not carry by pentakilling every other fight but with good map awareness, decision making, and communication. I don't know why having fun and improving seems opposite to you...
I can't do that in normals because my rank there doesn't make sense and the opponents are just incredibly bad, nobody tries to even play properly.
If Riot wants to do things properly, they need to remove duo queue. If they don't, the current system is quite good.
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On August 10 2012 17:19 Ryuu314 wrote:PBE Patch NotesBig buffs to (AP) Kayle and Teemo's asshole status in lane. Garen changes; he probably still sucks. Varus got a buff on his W ratio, kinda pointless since it still scales off AP afaik. AP Cho'gath now #1 Baron stealer.
They might want to move the new guy's Bola Strike move to a different key than E, 'cos right now all I'm reading is Ebola Strike.
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On August 10 2012 17:09 Xevious wrote:gay
Supposedly this is already in effect on live, the tooltip just has to be updated.
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On August 10 2012 11:01 Kenpachi wrote:
KAT REMAKE NO.
The champion looks great, but I HATE them for killing my beloved Kat.
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The new heroes Q dmg seems stupid strong. Reset auto-attack timer +100% ad scaling + 300 range + no mana costs + 6 sec cd O.O
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On August 10 2012 17:30 Jiix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 17:19 Ryuu314 wrote:PBE Patch NotesBig buffs to (AP) Kayle and Teemo's asshole status in lane. Garen changes; he probably still sucks. Varus got a buff on his W ratio, kinda pointless since it still scales off AP afaik. AP Cho'gath now #1 Baron stealer. They might want to move the new guy's Bola Strike move to a different key than E, 'cos right now all I'm reading is Ebola Strike.
As soon as I saw that I assumed it was done on purpose. Riot do seem to enjoy some little in-jokes/puns and the like. Might just be coincidence though.
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It's so bullshit that they made this chogath change and refuse to revert trundles ult the way it was so it can shred dragon and baron.
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Teemo's initial damage is going to hurt a lot more in exchange for a loss of damage on the DoT, not too bad. I can see cho coming back though, especially semi-mage cho. RoA+rylais and maybe a dcap would let you outsmite anyone assuming you knew how the animation was going to go.
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Oh man oh man, gotta love that teemo buffs. AP teemo making a come back!
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Garen...nerf?
Q nerfed early ranks
W nerfed early ranks (a buff later with CC reduction I guess)
Not sure what they did with E but can't see them buffing the early damage
Passive nerfed
R nerfed early ranks, slight buff later
wat
maybe they want people to jungle garen with the better damage from E on creeps? =/
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Garen W passive nerfed too unless you get big mr/armour, E buffed early IF I'm reading correctly, but only slightly, could also be a slight nerf that entire sentence makes no sense.
E does half damage to minions so gl jungling that.
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On August 10 2012 19:00 JackDino wrote:
Garen W passive nerfed too unless you get big mr/armour, E buffed early IF I'm reading correctly, but only slightly, could also be a slight nerf that entire sentence makes no sense.
E does half damage to minions so gl jungling that.
E 3/4 damage now to minions if the changes go through.
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On August 10 2012 19:01 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 19:00 JackDino wrote:
Garen W passive nerfed too unless you get big mr/armour, E buffed early IF I'm reading correctly, but only slightly, could also be a slight nerf that entire sentence makes no sense.
E does half damage to minions so gl jungling that. E 3/4 damage now to minions if the changes go through.
Yeah I meant less damage but wrote half for some reason.
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Garen's Passive: Nerf. 10s instead of 7.
Garen's Q: Damage buff, gets CC cleanse but silence/speedboost duration down. He's weaker at bush camping now (shorter silence)
Garen's W (passive): Straight up passive buff if you have 125+armor or MR. Weakens his early game but much stronger lategame
Garen's W (active): Straight up buff. Better damage reduction at lower ranks, up to double the duration at higher ranks
Graen's E: 50% more damage than before to minions, I literally cannot wrap my head around the numbers to determine if it's a buff or a nerf. I'm thinking an overall buff since it'll scale better now? I think?
Garen's R: Early game nerf, lategame buff.
I'm thinking that lategame garen could do more than he can now either damage wise or tank wise. If you get to the 250+armor range, you're adding on an extra 50+ armor from W. He gets so tanky so quickly since all resists are 20% more effective on him.
Something like:
mercs (tabis? since Q breaks cc)
IE
Randuins
GA
Warmogs
last whisper
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