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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 10 2012 10:24 GMT
#2401
Will we see more items which add a special bonus to selected heros? like bonetooth pick?

I would like to see Teemo DoT buffed instead of the main attack. Would like to see him as a dot dmg dealer :/
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 10:31:11
August 10 2012 10:29 GMT
#2402
How the hell does garen E do more damage to minions now?
Judgment deals 25% less damage to minions and monsters. That means it does 75% of the total damage to minions, 100% to champions. What am I missing here?
Judgment deals 25% less damage to minions and monsters.

Lol never noticed that before, my bad.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 10:31:03
August 10 2012 10:30 GMT
#2403
On August 10 2012 19:29 JackDino wrote:
How the hell does garen E do more damage to minions now?
Judgment deals 25% less damage to minions and monsters. That means it does 75% of the total damage to minions, 100% to champions. What am I missing here?
Show nested quote +
Judgment deals 25% less damage to minions and monsters.


Garen's E beforehand did 50% damage, not 75%.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 10:35:29
August 10 2012 10:34 GMT
#2404
On August 10 2012 19:24 Chexx wrote:
Will we see more items which add a special bonus to selected heros? like bonetooth pick?

I would like to see Teemo DoT buffed instead of the main attack. Would like to see him as a dot dmg dealer :/


The main thing is the primary way to play him (bruiser teemo), you lose a lot of the DoT damage since you're reapplying the buff and getting very little besides the initial shot damage from E. The same happens with AP teemo, since half your damage from the AP scaling is barely being used.

It's a minor buff to bruiser teemo but a major buff to AP teemo. Every shot you fire is a literal nuke, nashor's tooth might actually be seriously good on him now. He's going to be a complete asshole in lane now if he's running any AP at all (every shot he takes is .54 scaling).

AP AS teemo (mallet, malady/wits, nashor's tooth, Dcap, zerks, GA) is probably going to be stupid to deal with since chasing him is a bad idea, running away from him is impossible and every potshot he takes is going to sting, very hard.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 10 2012 10:36 GMT
#2405
Well Garen can probably afford to go BT GA BT BT LW or some stupid mass AD strat now with the W buff. Not entirely sure if he'll be viable tho.

I'm just really surprised at the Teemo buffs. 0.4 AP ratio on every single auto attack? Goddam.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 10 2012 10:40 GMT
#2406
God. ChoGath does not need more buffs. He is broken as it is.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 10 2012 10:41 GMT
#2407
On August 10 2012 19:34 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 19:24 Chexx wrote:
Will we see more items which add a special bonus to selected heros? like bonetooth pick?

I would like to see Teemo DoT buffed instead of the main attack. Would like to see him as a dot dmg dealer :/


The main thing is the primary way to play him (bruiser teemo), you lose a lot of the DoT damage since you're reapplying the buff and getting very little besides the initial shot damage from E. The same happens with AP teemo, since half your damage from the AP scaling is barely being used.

It's a minor buff to bruiser teemo but a major buff to AP teemo. Every shot you fire is a literal nuke, nashor's tooth might actually be seriously good on him now. He's going to be a complete asshole in lane now if he's running any AP at all (every shot he takes is .54 scaling).

AP AS teemo (mallet, malady/wits, nashor's tooth, Dcap, zerks, GA) is probably going to be stupid to deal with since chasing him is a bad idea, running away from him is impossible and every potshot he takes is going to sting, very hard.


and once you hit a shroom Boom. I really like playing Teemo is alot of fun.

Yeah thats the downside from bruiser Teemo. I always hoped that they make the dot stackable or something else to.
But I guess this change and play him like you said will be incredible strong
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 10 2012 10:43 GMT
#2408
it's weird, he'll still suck because he'll lose lane to every hero with a gap closer but he'll be even more insane vs heroes like singed or trynd. AP teemo already seems wayyyy better than on hit teemo so overall I really don't get this.

Moving garen's cleanse to his Q makes a lot of sense, if you are going to run at someone turning on E to remove a slow also removes the entire point of running at them anyway, so E wasn't a great spot for it.
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 11:01:47
August 10 2012 10:57 GMT
#2409
On August 10 2012 19:40 Sufficiency wrote:
God. ChoGath does not need more buffs. He is broken as it is.

Chogath ain't broken,even after the buffs there are still superior top lanes.
That's why they did this change to his ult so it would make him a more attractive option,teleport chogath is going to be very very good I guess.Not to mention they just released a skin so you know,C.R.E.A.M.
Cackle™
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 11:09:29
August 10 2012 11:06 GMT
#2410
On August 10 2012 16:18 Eiii wrote:
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On August 10 2012 15:07 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
(ohshit)
new champ

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comes with new item


He's already on PBE yo

And I already linked this like 30 pages ago

On August 10 2012 13:38 Praetorial wrote:
Rengar looks like WW with weapons. Wolf
[image loading]

I <3 that Rammus skin.



aside from the eye patch thing he has all the features of a predator(which is what he's based off of with the trophy shit obviously) dreadlocks the armor the claw on the hand, the throwing weapon thing(which isnt a spear or that disc thing but still)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 11:09:42
August 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#2411
Speaking of which guess who is probably going to get buffed soon.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Cackle™
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 10 2012 11:59 GMT
#2412
Rengar is pretty fun. Kinda dislike how often you have to spam his skills though.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
August 10 2012 12:06 GMT
#2413
On August 10 2012 19:57 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 19:40 Sufficiency wrote:
God. ChoGath does not need more buffs. He is broken as it is.

Chogath ain't broken,even after the buffs there are still superior top lanes.
That's why they did this change to his ult so it would make him a more attractive option,teleport chogath is going to be very very good I guess.Not to mention they just released a skin so you know,C.R.E.A.M.


Cho is still very strong. Just not fotm anymore, but I agree not broken.
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 10 2012 12:10 GMT
#2414
On August 10 2012 19:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
it's weird, he'll still suck because he'll lose lane to every hero with a gap closer but he'll be even more insane vs heroes like singed or trynd. AP teemo already seems wayyyy better than on hit teemo so overall I really don't get this.

Moving garen's cleanse to his Q makes a lot of sense, if you are going to run at someone turning on E to remove a slow also removes the entire point of running at them anyway, so E wasn't a great spot for it.


Which gap closer champs does Teemo lose to? I've never lost to a Jax/Wu as Teemo top (Granted I'm only bronze) and I always thought he crushes 95% of melee top laners.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 10 2012 12:18 GMT
#2415
battlecast chogath sales must be slow.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 12:27:08
August 10 2012 12:23 GMT
#2416
I read somewhere that Orianna was going to get another set of buffs soon. Can anyone confirm this?

On August 10 2012 21:10 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 19:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
it's weird, he'll still suck because he'll lose lane to every hero with a gap closer but he'll be even more insane vs heroes like singed or trynd. AP teemo already seems wayyyy better than on hit teemo so overall I really don't get this.

Moving garen's cleanse to his Q makes a lot of sense, if you are going to run at someone turning on E to remove a slow also removes the entire point of running at them anyway, so E wasn't a great spot for it.


Which gap closer champs does Teemo lose to? I've never lost to a Jax/Wu as Teemo top (Granted I'm only bronze) and I always thought he crushes 95% of melee top laners.

It really depends. It seems to me like, provided you're both fairly even, if the melee champ manages to get to you, then you're in trouble as Teemo. Teemo can bully melee champs up top, but he can be punished extremely easily as well. Good top players who abuse brush, make full use of their kits, and/or who get decent help from the jungler will make the lane iffy (unless it's a champ Teemo just poops on, like Trynd or something).
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
August 10 2012 12:32 GMT
#2417
Cannot wait for Rammus buffs along with that skin.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
August 10 2012 12:38 GMT
#2418
Why does it feel like Garen got hit with a nerfbat? The duration nerfs are so painful. Feels like a big early game nerf in order to provide a better lategame for him. Still don't see how he will be useful in any fashion now especially since he only received a 20s reduction for his ult cd but that doesn't matter because it still won't do any damage anyway.

Weird changes.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 10 2012 13:00 GMT
#2419
On August 10 2012 20:59 wussleeQ wrote:
Rengar is pretty fun. Kinda dislike how often you have to spam his skills though.


hey wusslee, how do you feel about the zyra nerfs? have you gotten to play her much since?
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 10 2012 13:04 GMT
#2420
Don't understand teemo changes... I thought he was in a very good place already.
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