EPT[Patch 1.0.0.143: MidJuly-Zyra] General Discussion - Page 97
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Requizen
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On July 28 2012 08:22 Sufficiency wrote: Tristana is still very good. That epic M5 vs CLG.EU match was won pretty much purely on Tristana. Honestly I can't remember anything special from Tristana from that game, I recall mostly it being a mix of flawless Anivia play and M5 having the item choices of a brain-dead 500 elo chimpanzee. Certainly if M5's Corki had been Tristana they would have won the game, but I don't remember CLG's Tristana being a big deal. | ||
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tokicheese
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On July 28 2012 09:31 tokicheese wrote: Zyra is seriously ridiculous... I played against one top lane and she missed nearly every single q somehow even with snare... And I still lose lane... Like how the fuck do you deal with her? Well she gets countered really hard by Leblanc. But a lot of shit is countered by Leb | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
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101toss
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Kassadin feels decent as well | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 28 2012 08:28 HazMat wrote: Eh, midgame too weak and she get's crushed in lane by Ezreal/Graves/Corki. Pretty much all ADs are the same but Ezreal Graves and Corki all have way too strong lane phases which makes them pick 90% of games. Ezreal only became popular because of DL's rofl stomp with it in MLG, and then more so due to pulsefire release, and then even MORE so, due to blitz being a popular support. ez's laning phase is strong, but his lategame falls off too hard to justify it as legit AD pick, unless for very specific niche reason. It'd be like first picking a sivir, you don't really do it >.< | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 28 2012 09:48 wei2coolman wrote: Ezreal only became popular because of DL's rofl stomp with it in MLG, and then more so due to pulsefire release, and then even MORE so, due to blitz being a popular support. Ezreal got popular because people realized how hard W max crushes trades. DL started the trickle-down effect toward the lower ranks, but he was already getting played plenty before then. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 28 2012 09:51 TheYango wrote: Ezreal got popular because people realized how hard W max crushes trades. DL started the trickle-down effect toward the lower ranks, but he was already getting played plenty before then. I think we saw like 2 ez games in MLG, if that's "getting played plenty before". then..... I don't even know what to say. Oh i forgot to add "AND EVEN EVEN MORE SO, they decreased w mana cost" | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On July 28 2012 09:48 wei2coolman wrote: Ezreal only became popular because of DL's rofl stomp with it in MLG, and then more so due to pulsefire release, and then even MORE so, due to blitz being a popular support. ez's laning phase is strong, but his lategame falls off too hard to justify it as legit AD pick, unless for very specific niche reason. It'd be like first picking a sivir, you don't really do it >.< Give me a break, Ezreal's lategame is pretty good. He's not Tristana or Kog'Maw, but other than them he's as good as any. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 28 2012 10:02 Alzadar wrote: Give me a break, Ezreal's lategame is pretty good. He's not Tristana or Kog'Maw, but other than them he's as good as any. Vayne, Graves, Corki, Ashe (utility wise)... Ez is my favorite AD carry, but good late game he does not have. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 28 2012 10:02 Alzadar wrote: Give me a break, Ezreal's lategame is pretty good. He's not Tristana or Kog'Maw, but other than them he's as good as any. Nah, he's worse than everyone who isn't caitlyn more or less. Maybe you could make an argument for Varus being worse. | ||
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Navi
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
most popular at pro level. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On July 28 2012 09:04 UniversalSnip wrote: does anybody actually like the dodge change  I do. There are still people out there who will troll, and I have no problem with 10-15 min queues when games go for around 25-30 anyway. Only thing that sucks is dodge roulette when no-one wants to dodge and you have to roll the dice just before the game locks in. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On July 28 2012 10:08 TwoToneTerran wrote: Nah, he's worse than everyone who isn't caitlyn more or less. Maybe you could make an argument for Varus being worse. The hell. Ezreal can duel any carry except Vayne. His steroid is slightly weaker than most, but it has constant uptime once charged, where as most are 50-70% uptime. His range is standard. His escape is among the best, with instant cast and good range (Corki and Tristana go further but have cast time). He has good poking. His ultimate will reliably hit 3-5 people, doing huge initial damage. What more do you want? | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On July 28 2012 09:31 tokicheese wrote: Zyra is seriously ridiculous... I played against one top lane and she missed nearly every single q somehow even with snare... And I still lose lane... Like how the fuck do you deal with her? Had a great game against her as Vlad. When she splurges on a lot of plants, just pool away, heal off some forward minions, come back and laugh at her depleted mana bar. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 28 2012 10:21 Alzadar wrote: The hell. Ezreal can duel any carry except Vayne. His steroid is slightly weaker than most, but it has constant uptime once charged, where as most are 50-70% uptime. His range is standard. His escape is among the best, with instant cast and good range (Corki and Tristana go further but have cast time). He has good poking. His ultimate will reliably hit 3-5 people, doing huge initial damage. What more do you want? Exactly, his dueling against other ADs is fine, which is what gives him a strong midgame. However, lategame is all about teamfights, which he isn't as good as others. Kog does better sustained damage from a safer range. Graves has toughness to survive the fight and good scaling AoE damage. Vayne assassinates and rapes teamfights. Corki's sustained damage is better and his poke is about the same, plus he has true damage modifier for late game armor. Ezreal's kit makes him good as skirmishes and dueling, not big fights, especially once your Qs start getting blocked by everyone other than the target you want to kill. | ||
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