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On July 28 2012 05:28 zulu_nation8 wrote: Azingy is very creative and can be a great pro player. Rest team idk. Yes, when hes not playing mid, his jungle strategies are actually pretty smart if executed properly
I used to look up to him then I get him in my games feeding 0/11 mid lane zzzZzzz
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On July 28 2012 05:07 HazMat wrote:Honestly I'm more surprised by EG Arch Angeloid. Arch Angeloid is probably the biggest one trick pony to live.
Pantheon mid, right?
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lmao phil's volibear crushing navitar udyr
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ya. not like skarner waiting in enemy tribush when we could have flanked mundo nor anivia donating blue helped much. oh wells.
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On July 28 2012 02:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i always wanted to show up to a MTG tournament with a deck of playing cards just to troll people
yo i forgot, how much mana do i need to tap to play Ace of Hearts?
J Carlson the 4th?
Nah man you gotta show up with pokemon cards:
![[image loading]](http://www.collectorscache.com/StoreModules/ProductImages/784/charmander59.jpg)
One red for a 59/99 with a OHK and a search for 1, pretty good deal
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I feel like I'm the only nerd in the world who never got into Magic. My friends and I did WH40k instead.
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I seriously cannot believe that Riot gave Zyra a cdr passive on her W. What were they even thinking?
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what's your problem with it? seems to be effective in controlling her lane strength early game without needing to itemize cdr lategame to be effective
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Can someone link me to a page where I can see the range on zyras spells? There are no numbers on her lol wiki page or riots website:/
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My problem with it is that she was already plenty strong without the cdr passive. She became a bit weaker in the lategame like other burst mages, but was still good because of how much teamfight utility her full combo brings. Now with this ridiculous cdr passive she gets 40% cdr at lvl 18 just by having blue buff.
Pretty stupid, imo. She was fine the way she was in PBE before they decided to buff her pretty silly for the release. It's not like she's particularly hard to play either. The moment you land your E on people that don't have merc treads, you pretty much land your entire combo on them.
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I think it was that they wanted to give a reason why you'd max W first, to give flexibility to her build. In fact, I'm pretty sure I read a post about it somewhere, not sure where though.
In the end, I think she's just difficult enough to play that even with the free CDR, she's not going to become new new FOTM or anything like that. Good players are already doing well with her, but she's not wrecking mid to low level games yet.
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On July 28 2012 06:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: what's your problem with it? seems to be effective in controlling her lane strength early game without needing to itemize cdr lategame to be effective
That's the point, she doesn't have to itemize it. She gets a Frozen Heart's worth of CDR for free. She doesn't have to spend gold on it, doesn't have to use an item slot, doesn't have to allocate masteries or runes, nothing. No other champion even comes close to that >.>
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On July 28 2012 06:33 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 02:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i always wanted to show up to a MTG tournament with a deck of playing cards just to troll people
yo i forgot, how much mana do i need to tap to play Ace of Hearts?
J Carlson the 4th? Nah man you gotta show up with pokemon cards: ![[image loading]](http://www.collectorscache.com/StoreModules/ProductImages/784/charmander59.jpg) One red for a 59/99 with a OHK and a search for 1, pretty good deal basic pokemon have like 60 hp now? da fuq
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why is viktor not played in pro games u guys think? he has decent zoning ability with his w and his ult is so strong. a lot of teams go for midgame comps and viktor just owns midgame.
is it because of the augment taking up a spot? getting 30% damage on your strongest spell and 90 ap (i think its 90 at lvl 18) isnt bad.
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On July 28 2012 07:10 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 06:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: what's your problem with it? seems to be effective in controlling her lane strength early game without needing to itemize cdr lategame to be effective That's the point, she doesn't have to itemize it. She gets a Frozen Heart's worth of CDR for free. She doesn't have to spend gold on it, doesn't have to use an item slot, doesn't have to allocate masteries or runes, nothing. No other champion even comes close to that >.>
i dunno if it's really as crazy as you think. CDR is very difficult to itemize but shouldn't its gold value correlate with DPS increase rather than, say, kindlegem minus hp?
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On July 28 2012 07:12 Vaporized wrote: why is viktor not played in pro games u guys think? he has decent zoning ability with his w and his ult is so strong. a lot of teams go for midgame comps and viktor just owns midgame.
is it because of the augment taking up a spot? getting 30% damage on your strongest spell and 90 ap (i think its 90 at lvl 18) isnt bad.
Mostly his spell range. Scarra was talking about it the other day on stream. He said he's a decent competitive pick with strong poke, but in order to combo someone you have to get too close for comfort. Basically, there are just too many other good champs to warrant picking him.
In solo que he's fine but in arranged play you get CC'd too easily
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On July 28 2012 07:14 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 07:10 Ferrose wrote:On July 28 2012 06:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: what's your problem with it? seems to be effective in controlling her lane strength early game without needing to itemize cdr lategame to be effective That's the point, she doesn't have to itemize it. She gets a Frozen Heart's worth of CDR for free. She doesn't have to spend gold on it, doesn't have to use an item slot, doesn't have to allocate masteries or runes, nothing. No other champion even comes close to that >.> i dunno if it's really as crazy as you think. CDR is very difficult to itemize but shouldn't its gold value correlate with DPS increase rather than, say, kindlegem minus hp? Not on a champion with multiple utility spells.
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she doesn't have a ton of utility. a root is a lesser CC than a stun, her E'd plants are rather ineffective, and her ult's knockup is on a big delay. she's not crushing people just based on her kit like Ori used to
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On July 28 2012 07:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: she doesn't have a ton of utility. a root is a lesser CC than a stun, her E'd plants are rather ineffective, and her ult's knockup is on a big delay. she's not crushing people just based on her kit like Ori used to A snare that hits everyone in a line (unlike Morg [1 target] or Lux [2]) which means she can hit you through minions, turrets that slow you (25-30% for 2 seconds), and a massive AOE knockup count as significant utility IMO.
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Landing EWQWR is incredibly easy, and if the other person didn't build tenacity then they get hit by the full thing, knock up and all.
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