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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 31 2012 22:45 GMT
#2641
possible SMash build about to happen on voyboy stream
Carrilord has arrived.
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
July 31 2012 22:48 GMT
#2642
On July 31 2012 23:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Man, I just played 2 games with Jayce, god he's so fucking strong. He does ridiculous burst damage, is naturally tanky, has some of the best lane escapes with all his MS, he has almost no bad matchups, because if anything goes wrong, just turns to ranged and can farm pretty safely. Soooooo strong. The only trouble is that I'm not quite sure what to build on him~ I've recently just been doing boots3pot->2dblade->brutalizer->triforce->witsend->blackcleaver->ga~


Meh. I thought he was really strong, then I played against a Riven. Got owned so hard, I really had no idea how to do anything to prevent her from outfarming you.
(I'd do a bit more damage in a trade, but she has way lower cooldowns, so she'd zone me until my cooldowns were back. Meanwhile she'd not push the lane, so I had to be very careful about jungler interference; her cc made it hard to escape ganks.)
Eventually level 6 WW killed me in a flash ult gank, and after that I couldn't even get into exp range most of the time.

Also, Jayce vs Irelia felt like I couldn't ever kill or zone Irelia. She'd chug a few more potions than me, but that didn't stop her from farming, and late-game she was a lot stronger in team fights.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 31 2012 22:49 GMT
#2643
On August 01 2012 07:45 Slusher wrote:
possible SMash build about to happen on voyboy stream

voyboy has the dumbest builds so I doubt it.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 31 2012 22:55 GMT
#2644
On August 01 2012 07:49 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 07:45 Slusher wrote:
possible SMash build about to happen on voyboy stream

voyboy has the dumbest builds so I doubt it.

Well he went Chalice first.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 31 2012 22:59 GMT
#2645
hes going chalice but he didn't go for cdr masteries, which is pretty key to the build so.
Carrilord has arrived.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 23:00:14
July 31 2012 22:59 GMT
#2646
Adding a SV for the missing 10% from masteries?

Edit: Obv not the build but still along the same lines.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 01 2012 01:12 GMT
#2647
On August 01 2012 07:48 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 23:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Man, I just played 2 games with Jayce, god he's so fucking strong. He does ridiculous burst damage, is naturally tanky, has some of the best lane escapes with all his MS, he has almost no bad matchups, because if anything goes wrong, just turns to ranged and can farm pretty safely. Soooooo strong. The only trouble is that I'm not quite sure what to build on him~ I've recently just been doing boots3pot->2dblade->brutalizer->triforce->witsend->blackcleaver->ga~


Meh. I thought he was really strong, then I played against a Riven. Got owned so hard, I really had no idea how to do anything to prevent her from outfarming you.
(I'd do a bit more damage in a trade, but she has way lower cooldowns, so she'd zone me until my cooldowns were back. Meanwhile she'd not push the lane, so I had to be very careful about jungler interference; her cc made it hard to escape ganks.)
Eventually level 6 WW killed me in a flash ult gank, and after that I couldn't even get into exp range most of the time.

Also, Jayce vs Irelia felt like I couldn't ever kill or zone Irelia. She'd chug a few more potions than me, but that didn't stop her from farming, and late-game she was a lot stronger in team fights.

Hmmm, against riven it should be a farm lane... Ranged mode should allow for easy farm. If she wants to zone you, just keep poking the shit out of her.

Well irelia is irelia....
liftlift > tsm
Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 02:14:01
August 01 2012 02:13 GMT
#2648
um if we're trying to keep smash's nunu a secret...

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xg9ep/developing_solo_top_nunu_mogwais_musings/
http://mogwaismusings.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/developing-solo-top-nunu/

or just post it and end up on front page of reddit nice job };p

top comment is endorsement by moonbear.... o interwebs you are such a small place
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 01 2012 02:33 GMT
#2649
On August 01 2012 11:13 Logrus wrote:
um if we're trying to keep smash's nunu a secret...

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xg9ep/developing_solo_top_nunu_mogwais_musings/
http://mogwaismusings.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/developing-solo-top-nunu/

or just post it and end up on front page of reddit nice job };p

top comment is endorsement by moonbear.... o interwebs you are such a small place


Mogwai = Smash :p
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2012 02:34 GMT
#2650
Nunu top so bullshit.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#2651
There are some secret OP things that remain hidden for ages. They tend to involve at least a modicum of skill or intelligence.

Then there's OP like Nunu top. Anyone who thought something that easy would stay secret for long was kidding themselves, with or without Mogwai advertising it on reddit.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2012 04:09 GMT
#2652
Patch notes:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/early-august-patch-notes

tl;dr version:

+ Show Spoiler +
-No Diana yet, will probably randomly show up in store later like Zyra did.
-Amumu damage nerf but mana cost buffs. Maybe not so blue dependent early game?
-Brand changes. Easier to land ult on champs, I guess.
-Cho buffs. MR/level, cast time changes, growing in size actually increases Vorpal Spikes and Feast range as well.
-Eve buffs. Stealth quicker, ult CD reduced. Still sucks.
-Hec's E now starts sprinting earlier, still caps out at the same time. Ult got a weird buff.
-Janna Zephyr nerf.
-Lulu bug fix.
-Rammus MR/level
-Rumble nerfs
-Twitch buff on base AD and Cask speed.
-Urgot Acid Hunter changed back
-Xin changes on base AD, Charge damage nerf.
-Yorick nerf on sustain off minions.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 04:21:13
August 01 2012 04:20 GMT
#2653
Did we change things up so that Neo is the god of gen thread starting? Normally someone would have sniped him by now.

Also,Diana seems like the worst jungle design I've seen since Nautilus. Unless I'm underestimating her mana costs severely she's going to be ridiculous.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 04:23:05
August 01 2012 04:22 GMT
#2654
Two months from now:

"Fuck you Smash, your AD Malz build is bullshit."

...I so, so sincerely hope.


-Eve buffs. Stealth quicker, ult CD reduced. Still sucks.


I like her. I mean she's not great, but she's got a fun and interesting little niche and game plan.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2012 04:25 GMT
#2655
On August 01 2012 13:20 Seuss wrote:
Did we change things up so that Neo is the god of gen thread starting? Normally someone would have sniped him by now.

Also,Diana seems like the worst jungle design I've seen since Nautilus. Unless I'm underestimating her mana costs severely she's going to be ridiculous.

I don't think she'll be too crazy (and not just because I'm buying her day 1). Her clears will be amazing, and her scaling looks nice, but she lacks any CC outside of the little pull thing. So her ganks will only be OK unless she has super burst capability on her combo and her laner has CC on top of it.

Then again, that might be true and she can just ult out and rape someone's health bar. In which case I'll be jungling her a whooooole fuckton.
It's your boy Guzma!
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 04:27:40
August 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#2656
double posting like a boss
Power-tripping mod for Trump's stream
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
August 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#2657
from patch notes:

Brand: Pyroclasm
Missile Speed increased to 1000 from 800
Missile Speed no longer increases when hitting ablaze targets
If Pyroclasm strikes an ablaze target, the next bounce will now prioritize champions

fuck yeah ^_^

Also dem Chogath buffs pretty nice.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 04:43:26
August 01 2012 04:38 GMT
#2658
yay! at least 2 more weeks of nunu abuse

really sad about the amumu nerfs tho. so unnecessary :[ while amumu was somewhat dependent on blue, his mana costs weren't really that prohibitive. if you went philo or 2 drings you generally had enough mana to jungle and gank effectively so long as you didn't unnecessarily spam your spells.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 01 2012 04:43 GMT
#2659
Why would you make that change to Brand and not do anything to address 3-bounce damage being far too high. You've basically made it that much more likely to instagib someone 1v2.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 04:45:48
August 01 2012 04:45 GMT
#2660
On August 01 2012 13:25 Requizen wrote:
I don't think she'll be too crazy (and not just because I'm buying her day 1). Her clears will be amazing, and her scaling looks nice, but she lacks any CC outside of the little pull thing. So her ganks will only be OK unless she has super burst capability on her combo and her laner has CC on top of it.

If Dark Seer from DotA is any indication, that "little pull thing" is more than enough to make her a monster teamfighter.

Huge setup potential for so many AoE sklls in this game.
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