EPT[Patch 1.0.0.143: MidJuly-Zyra] General Discussion - Page…
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Numy
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Ferrose
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 30 2012 07:20 Numy wrote: So it's OPrumble vs OPZyra ? :< ignore the 12-1* ezreal | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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askTeivospy
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On July 30 2012 07:10 AsnSensation wrote: i call them fanboys because they only write OMG ZYRA OP because scarra is beating TSM with it and if you come with that argument, in which way would your argument of zyra being op be any more viable than mine? edit: IMO ( lol) this is just Darius all over again, remember how many people already screamed OPOPOP after seeing the champ spotlight or reading what his ult does? How often do you see Darius these days and he hasnt even been nerfed yet. ( I consider the change on the ult a fix) you sound like zyra fanboy though, and the change on the ult was a nerf.... O_O I will ignore you now | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On July 30 2012 07:20 Dark_Chill wrote: Off-topic question, if the frame for your glasses broke, where you go to get them repaired? Any optometrist. A lot of places will do minor repairs for free if you just walk in even if you didn't get your glasses there. If you need to replace parts might have to pay a bit. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On July 30 2012 07:10 AsnSensation wrote: i call them fanboys because they only write OMG ZYRA OP because scarra is beating TSM with it and if you come with that argument, in which way would your argument of zyra being op be any more viable than mine? edit: IMO ( lol) this is just Darius all over again, remember how many people already screamed OPOPOP after seeing the champ spotlight or reading what his ult does? How often do you see Darius these days and he hasnt even been nerfed yet. ( I consider the change on the ult a fix) Darius has been nerfed, the ult was changed(not a fix, it was a significant problem), and the bleed damage was lowered. (not to mention the hilarious bug with his E) On July 30 2012 05:31 AsnSensation wrote: I know how retarded the internet can be but it just baffles me because they liked the page in the first place, obviously we League players or gamers in general are no george clooneys but well, guess Im too naive xD yeah and I read those comments because the way facebook is it kinda force me to lol because the comments are on the right next to the picture so I dont have to troll like on youtube etc to read retarded comments, genius design indeed. well played Mark Zuckerberg. They liked the page for the Tristana skin? On July 30 2012 07:33 zulu_nation8 wrote: new champions should be banned from tourney play But scarra hasn't had a lot of time to practice with her, get used to her skillset no matter how good he is with her. The lack of experience compensates for potential OP. | ||
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askTeivospy
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On July 30 2012 07:33 zulu_nation8 wrote: new champions should be banned from tourney play But scarra hasn't had a lot of time to practice with her, get used to her skillset no matter how good he is with her. The lack of experience compensates for potential OP.[/QUOTE] It swings both ways. Your opponents have had equally little time to practice against Zyra. | ||
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Celial
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On July 30 2012 07:31 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Any optometrist. A lot of places will do minor repairs for free if you just walk in even if you didn't get your glasses there. If you need to replace parts might have to pay a bit. Or duct tape. Totally duct tape. Trust the likes of me, Day9 and many others. Unless you work. As long as you're in school/uni, duct tape is all you need.  | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On July 30 2012 07:57 jcarlsoniv wrote: One major issue with Zyra is her range is too big. If her range was shorter, the damage would be more reasonable, and it would put her in more danger. Since she's so squishy, it would balance out. I don't even think it is the range that is the big deal, it is the misleading animations. Her ult and E even feel weird to use because the spell is instant but the particles aren't. Her E has a hellion-like instant linesplash that instantly roots everything in it, but the animation takes a rather long time. People are trying to dodge the particle but they need to be juking the Zyra's cast animation instead of the spell's itself. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On July 30 2012 08:05 iCanada wrote: I don't even think it is the range that is the big deal, it is the misleading animations. Her ult and E even feel weird to use because the spell is instant but the particles aren't. Her E has a hellion-like instant linesplash that instantly roots everything in it, but the animation takes a rather long time. People are trying to dodge the particle but they need to be juking the Zyra's cast animation instead of the spell's itself. ? E is definitely not instant it has a travel time think of it like a Morg Q... | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On July 30 2012 08:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: ? E is definitely not instant it has a travel time think of it like a Morg Q... Cast it, the spell itself is much faster than the animation. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On July 30 2012 08:09 iCanada wrote: Cast it, the spell itself is much faster than the animation. No it's not? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Sorry for the misinformation. I still think her ult feels funky though. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 30 2012 07:57 jcarlsoniv wrote: One major issue with Zyra is her range is too big. If her range was shorter, the damage would be more reasonable, and it would put her in more danger. Since she's so squishy, it would balance out. I still believe the scaling and overall damage on her plants is way too high. See it that way: when Brand "assassinates" somebody, the damage from his pillar, ult and potentielly conflagration will do AoE damage that wouldn't kill anybody but could potentially endanger squishies and dent tanks. He's an AoE heavy damage mage. Zyra can use her full combo to kill a squishy, without her plants, and those will kill another squisher or even moderately tanky champion in the timeframe. They also benefit from rylai's slow, and deal magic damage, scaling much better in the lategame than a lot of stuff (like Heimer's turrets, Lux's or Orianna's or Ziggs' passives, etc.). I'd reduce her range, cut the damage/level on her plants, make them not benefit from rylai (apparently the plants have 0 AD, base + 0.2x Zyra's AP as AP, and a passive ability that makes them deal 1x AP as magic damage on top of their attacks, I guess rylai procs from that ability). The way I see it, make it so hitting her full combo+plants at the ready is harder, but rewards those who manage it by giving it high damage output, but failing to do so gives you under average damage. Also, the fact that you can miss a target with every spell but hit them on your seeds and still dish out a pretty huge amount of damage, especially late game (3 hits from a single plant is more or less a single target nuke), should be addressed. | ||
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