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[Patch 1.0.0.143: MidJuly-Zyra] General Discussion - Page 11

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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 19 2012 19:44 GMT
#201
Hey guys who are already playing the new patch, any thoughts on new Xin?

I liked playing him a lot as jungle, is it still ok doing that?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 19 2012 19:48 GMT
#202
been trying to find a featured game where eve is in and not getting railed, like 0/10 so far....
Carrilord has arrived.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
July 19 2012 19:48 GMT
#203
On July 20 2012 04:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Would be real nice if a couple of you guys could bump this for me: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2375065

I contacted RiotUdyr about who to talk to in order to figure out if LEGO LoL is actually feasible, and he said if I send him an email, he'd get it to the right people. So yeah, I'm just trying to get this idea as widespread as I can.


I voted for you Soniv. Keep us posted on that man. I'd buy that shit in a heartbeat.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 20:01:58
July 19 2012 19:49 GMT
#204
someone help me with some mathcraft?

since sona's power chord deals magic damage, i'm wondering what the relationship between hybrid pen and flat damage runes is when scaled into lategame. i imagine the penetration runes would outscale the flat ad at a certain resistance breakpoint, but what is that breakpoint?

also musing about standard AD build (IE PD LW) vs a tankier Triforce build with little AS given that her burst harass is significantly stronger and there's still a casting recovery on Q.

Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 19 2012 19:50 GMT
#205
On July 20 2012 04:48 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Would be real nice if a couple of you guys could bump this for me: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2375065

I contacted RiotUdyr about who to talk to in order to figure out if LEGO LoL is actually feasible, and he said if I send him an email, he'd get it to the right people. So yeah, I'm just trying to get this idea as widespread as I can.


I voted for you Soniv. Keep us posted on that man. I'd buy that shit in a heartbeat.

Should try to post this to Reddit.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 19 2012 19:53 GMT
#206
On July 20 2012 04:50 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:48 Terranasaur wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Would be real nice if a couple of you guys could bump this for me: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2375065

I contacted RiotUdyr about who to talk to in order to figure out if LEGO LoL is actually feasible, and he said if I send him an email, he'd get it to the right people. So yeah, I'm just trying to get this idea as widespread as I can.


I voted for you Soniv. Keep us posted on that man. I'd buy that shit in a heartbeat.

Should try to post this to Reddit.


The original post that got all this moving for me was on /r/leagueoflegends, so Idk if I should put another one there. I'm going to try to contact podcasters/vloggers or something like that to see if they can help.
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Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 19 2012 19:56 GMT
#207
On July 20 2012 04:35 Sufficiency wrote:
New lalalademacia is out http://www..com/watch?v=zG--LC22Ydw

Ahri has a shop on 9th Avenue, lol.


wtf... do people actively watch these/look forward to them?
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 19 2012 20:00 GMT
#208
On July 20 2012 04:56 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:35 Sufficiency wrote:
New lalalademacia is out http://www..com/watch?v=zG--LC22Ydw

Ahri has a shop on 9th Avenue, lol.


wtf... do people actively watch these/look forward to them?


Of course. Ahri is in it.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 20:06:00
July 19 2012 20:02 GMT
#209
quick test on lvl 1 burst was surprising, mostly just with how clean the combo is. getting that single auto makes a big difference!

starting boots, 15 AD from masteries, 21/9/0, Q aura up:
73 (auto) + 80 (q) + ([73x2]+18) = 317 damage before reduction. Doran's blade open puts that number at 347.

lvl 7 with lvl 4 Q, two dorans + sheen:
127 + 200 + ( ([127x2]+78) x2) = 991 damage before reduction

lvl 7 with boots, one dorans, and BF (lol):
152 + 200 + ([152x2]+78) = 734

can power chord crit? no idea how i dont know the answer to that LOL
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 20:18:11
July 19 2012 20:09 GMT
#210
On July 20 2012 05:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quick test on lvl 1 burst was surprising, mostly just with how clean the combo is. getting that single auto makes a big difference!

starting boots, 15 AD from masteries, 21/9/0, Q aura up:
73 (auto) + 80 (q) + ([73x2]+18) = 317 damage before reduction. Doran's blade open puts that number at 347.

lvl 7 with lvl 4 Q, two dorans + sheen:
127 + 200 + ( ([127x2]+78) x2) = 991 damage before reduction

lvl 7 with boots, one dorans, and BF (lol):
152 + 200 + ([152x2]+78) = 734

can power chord crit? no idea how i dont know the answer to that LOL


CRITSONA NEW META

I bet it can crit. There is no reason not to because Power Chord is an autoattack modifier.
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HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
July 19 2012 20:15 GMT
#211
On July 20 2012 04:44 Doctorbeat wrote:
Hey guys who are already playing the new patch, any thoughts on new Xin?

I liked playing him a lot as jungle, is it still ok doing that?


Haven't played him yet, but Guardsman Bob seems to be having a grand old time playing Xin again(the last round of nerfs made him quit Xin). Absolutely crushing with solo Xin(mid and top). He's obviously in a much better place strength-wise.

Consensus in the reddit discussion post seems to be that his jungle is slower than it was before and that laning is definitely the way to go now.
fasdaf
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 22:01:24
July 19 2012 20:31 GMT
#212
Power Chord cannot crit.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
July 19 2012 20:39 GMT
#213
I've been running a few games with xin when people don't dodge because for some reason they think he's still awful, but the only matchup i can see being awful is kennen. You roflstomp riven, oh you stun me? Ok now take all your hp ktnxbye. His new ult is really situational. I honestly don't like that I knocks back. Makes it feel like an escape tool rather than an executioner ability. His new passive is straight up op. Unless your opp top is running Cloth + 5 and 30+ armor from runes you are going to poop on them from just going arpen runes and masteries. I love him how he feels now though. His burst still seems insanely high, but that's just xin imo.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#214
On July 20 2012 05:39 Cixah wrote:
I've been running a few games with xin when people don't dodge because for some reason they think he's still awful, but the only matchup i can see being awful is kennen. You roflstomp riven, oh you stun me? Ok now take all your hp ktnxbye. His new ult is really situational. I honestly don't like that I knocks back. Makes it feel like an escape tool rather than an executioner ability. His new passive is straight up op. Unless your opp top is running Cloth + 5 and 30+ armor from runes you are going to poop on them from just going arpen runes and masteries. I love him how he feels now though. His burst still seems insanely high, but that's just xin imo.

when was his ult ever used as an execute?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#215
On July 20 2012 05:39 Cixah wrote:
I've been running a few games with xin when people don't dodge because for some reason they think he's still awful, but the only matchup i can see being awful is kennen. You roflstomp riven, oh you stun me? Ok now take all your hp ktnxbye. His new ult is really situational. I honestly don't like that I knocks back. Makes it feel like an escape tool rather than an executioner ability. His new passive is straight up op. Unless your opp top is running Cloth + 5 and 30+ armor from runes you are going to poop on them from just going arpen runes and masteries. I love him how he feels now though. His burst still seems insanely high, but that's just xin imo.

Isn't his ult more execute-y now that it has a 1:1 AD scaling?

It's also a hilariously good anti-peeling tool. You dive an AD and enemy Naut comes to slow/snare you? BACK THE FUCK OFF BRO.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#216
On July 20 2012 05:47 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 05:39 Cixah wrote:
I've been running a few games with xin when people don't dodge because for some reason they think he's still awful, but the only matchup i can see being awful is kennen. You roflstomp riven, oh you stun me? Ok now take all your hp ktnxbye. His new ult is really situational. I honestly don't like that I knocks back. Makes it feel like an escape tool rather than an executioner ability. His new passive is straight up op. Unless your opp top is running Cloth + 5 and 30+ armor from runes you are going to poop on them from just going arpen runes and masteries. I love him how he feels now though. His burst still seems insanely high, but that's just xin imo.

Isn't his ult more execute-y now that it has a 1:1 AD scaling?

It's also a hilariously good anti-peeling tool. You dive an AD and enemy Naut comes to slow/snare you? BACK THE FUCK OFF BRO.


It also does 15% of an enemy's current health in Physical damage. Using it at the start of a fight is easily equivalent to having 150-300 bonus AD depending on each opponent's maximum health.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
July 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#217
I just saved it for people who eventually get out of range. It has such a big range that it picks up kills.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#218
On July 20 2012 05:50 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 05:47 Requizen wrote:
On July 20 2012 05:39 Cixah wrote:
I've been running a few games with xin when people don't dodge because for some reason they think he's still awful, but the only matchup i can see being awful is kennen. You roflstomp riven, oh you stun me? Ok now take all your hp ktnxbye. His new ult is really situational. I honestly don't like that I knocks back. Makes it feel like an escape tool rather than an executioner ability. His new passive is straight up op. Unless your opp top is running Cloth + 5 and 30+ armor from runes you are going to poop on them from just going arpen runes and masteries. I love him how he feels now though. His burst still seems insanely high, but that's just xin imo.

Isn't his ult more execute-y now that it has a 1:1 AD scaling?

It's also a hilariously good anti-peeling tool. You dive an AD and enemy Naut comes to slow/snare you? BACK THE FUCK OFF BRO.


It also does 15% of an enemy's current health in Physical damage. Using it at the start of a fight is easily equivalent to having 150-300 bonus AD depending on each opponent's maximum health.

Yeah, but it worked like that before, as well. Now it's still better damage at the beginning of a fight, but new R is better than old R if they're low thanks to the additional damage.
It's your boy Guzma!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 19 2012 20:55 GMT
#219
On July 20 2012 05:53 Cixah wrote:
I just saved it for people who eventually get out of range. It has such a big range that it picks up kills.

then you're really fucking terrible at the whole min/maxing thing, no offense.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 19 2012 20:55 GMT
#220
Tried the new Eve out, her early game is still lackluster but she sure does pick up in mid-late game with Triforce into tanky build, her new ult is SO GOOD 1.5k max HP if you hit all 5 champs with it
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