On July 20 2012 03:31 UniversalSnip wrote:
Sona's steroid seems like... really bad.
Sona's steroid seems like... really bad.
compared to steroids like blood boil or raise morale, but those abilities don't have a damage component
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						 On July 20 2012 03:31 UniversalSnip wrote: Sona's steroid seems like... really bad. compared to steroids like blood boil or raise morale, but those abilities don't have a damage component | ||
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						 On July 20 2012 03:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 03:31 UniversalSnip wrote: Sona's steroid seems like... really bad. compared to steroids like blood boil or raise morale, but those abilities don't have a damage component I mean as an AD carry where you just want to pile stats onto yourself and be selfish | ||
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						 real ad sona goes q > e > w because dat speed boost xD | ||
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						 On July 20 2012 03:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 02:51 Sufficiency wrote: On July 20 2012 00:43 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: On July 19 2012 19:07 Goragoth wrote: Quick question since Sona was being discussed: what about her makes building her as AD carry (semi) viable vs other ranged supports? good range, fast attack animation, now (it looks like) strong burst in lane once again, ashe-tier utility ult. no real ad scaling to speak of but she is a very strong duelist lategame even with no scaling im at work, can anyone test new sona passive? see if you can actually auto q chord in quick succession or if there's still an auto cooldown inbetween? On the other hand, really low starting health and health per lvl. Sona is really squishy. as is every other ad carry. getting cc'd in a teamfight with ashe, sivir, ezreal, corki, trist, etc means you're dead most of the time anyway. only graves and caitlyn really outperform Sona in this area, graves because of his innate tankiness and cait because she doesn't have to put herself as close to danger to pewpew. But the difference is that Sona gets 70 health per lvl and most AD carries get around 80-83 health per lvl. Her base is also much lower than most AD carries. | ||
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						 edit: Usnip, 20 bonus AD becomes 40 bonus AD when it's a Power Chord edit2: sylver you should be running flat AD red on support sona unless you need those rune slots for defensive stats. mpen doesn't increase your harass by nearly as much | ||
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						 On July 20 2012 03:46 UniversalSnip wrote: Are we both talking about the 20 ad bonus on the Q? We're talking about how Auto+Q+Power chord auto is some significant trading potential. Maybe I'll try running AD or Armor Pen runes on support sona... | ||
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						 On July 20 2012 03:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: which, again, looks bad on paper, but in practice is largely irrelevant edit: Usnip, 20 bonus AD becomes 40 bonus AD when it's a Power Chord edit2: sylver you should be running flat AD red on support sona unless you need those rune slots for defensive stats. mpen doesn't increase your harass by nearly as much Yeah, my default support page is armor reds and GP10 quints. | ||
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						 On July 20 2012 04:26 sylverfyre wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 03:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: which, again, looks bad on paper, but in practice is largely irrelevant edit: Usnip, 20 bonus AD becomes 40 bonus AD when it's a Power Chord edit2: sylver you should be running flat AD red on support sona unless you need those rune slots for defensive stats. mpen doesn't increase your harass by nearly as much Yeah, my default support page is armor reds and GP10 quints. i gotcha. if you run gp10 or mana regen yellows you shouldn't run ad reds, but if you run armor yellows like i do then adding 10x2 damage to your power chords (or 15x2 if you take quints as well) is significant. im of the school of thought that gp10 quints are grossly overvalued though | ||
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