That's what most people do now. Then again, every so often you'll see Wriggles for the armor vs really heavy AD lanes. I'd rather have Doran's, but I can see the idea.

ViZe

United States1513 Posts

July 29 2012 00:38 GMT

#2142

Wriggles is a decent item on Riven. It probably makes sense to get it vs sustained AD harass that is difficult to retaliate against 100% of the time (i.e. panth or gp). Since you get free health from your e, resists are probably a bit better than health on riven (hence 0 additional health builds on riven)

Something else that might be worth trying is Doran's->Cutlass->Bruta. This is the build that Cris, that high elo Riven main, uses. I'm not sure how effective the build is but he is damn good at Riven so it's probably worth a try.

Craton

United States17303 Posts

July 29 2012 00:41 GMT

#2143

Never do anything because Cris has done it.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

July 29 2012 00:41 GMT

#2144

On July 29 2012 09:38 ViZe wrote:
Wriggles is decent item on Riven. It probably makes sense to get it vs sustained ad harass that is difficult to retaliate against 100% of the time (i.e. panth). Because you get free health from your e resists are probably a bit better than health on riven (hence 0 additional health builds on riven)

Something else that might be worth trying is Doran's->Cutlass->Bruta. This is the build that Cris, that high elo Riven main, uses. I'm not sure how effective the build is but he is damn good at Riven so it's probably worth a try.

Cutlass is nice in theory, but it's window of power is very small, and after that it doesn't build into anything useful, considering Gunblade spends too much on AP to be anywhere near cost effective for her.

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

July 29 2012 00:49 GMT

#2145

On July 29 2012 09:41 Craton wrote:
Never do anything because Cris has done it.

Watching Cris play like any hero makes me want to rip my eyes out

valheru

Australia966 Posts

July 29 2012 00:50 GMT

#2146

On July 29 2012 09:49 arb wrote:

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Watching Cris play like any hero makes me want to rip my eyes out

Is Cris The Rainman or just some random dude?

EDIT: thanks guys.

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

July 29 2012 00:51 GMT

#2147

On July 29 2012 09:50 valheru wrote:

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Is Cris The Rainman or just some random dude?

Some random guy i think, no one really seems to enjoy playing with him when you see him on stream

he usually spends the entire game spam pinging for ganks or crying truthfully.

Dusty

United States3359 Posts

July 29 2012 00:54 GMT

#2148

On July 29 2012 09:50 valheru wrote:

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Is Cris The Rainman or just some random dude?

Cris is a player for vVv, according to his stream description

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

July 29 2012 00:58 GMT

#2149

On July 29 2012 09:07 Dusty wrote:

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That guide says to get wriggles on Riven ._.

The point was to steer the champ centric discussion into the proper thread. Considering we just talked about the current build in there.

I don't know, maybe I have too strong of an impression about what is GD acceptable. =[

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

July 29 2012 00:59 GMT

#2150

Does Crunchyroll sponsor TSM now? That's kinda cool, actually.

Soloside

United States1238 Posts

July 29 2012 01:16 GMT

#2151

On July 29 2012 09:59 Requizen wrote:
Does Crunchyroll sponsor TSM now? That's kinda cool, actually.

dyrus probably logs like 100 hours a week on that website watching anime. would have been easy for him to convince them

Navi

5286 Posts

July 29 2012 01:23 GMT

#2152

That guide was made before another set of wriggles nerfs to the sustain and cost efficiency. Dorans tends to be stronger as their efficiency per slot and cost is nice, as well as providing a smoother power curve into the midgame lull while you wait for your bt

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

July 29 2012 01:27 GMT

#2153

i havent seen any bruisers get wriggles instead of phage or bf inr a while.

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

July 29 2012 01:42 GMT

#2154

ogmomgomg guys
Olaf, right, CDR Olaf. Throw axe right below you, pick it up, throw again, 0.7s cooldown, its like having 2 autoattacks. Playing him jungle, might be better top but still seems OP as hell.
Why does nobody play him?

Cloud9157

United States2968 Posts

July 29 2012 01:43 GMT

#2155

I never liked his ganks as much myself.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

July 29 2012 01:46 GMT

#2156

I can't stand ganking as him, and he runs through mana soooooo fast it bugs me :\

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

July 29 2012 01:47 GMT

#2157

Yeah, his ganks are kinda mediocre, he really really needs someone to have hard CC in lane and he is particularly bad at ganking middle. But he farms so fast, I think he might be pretty damn good counter-jungle jungler, kinda shyvana style stuff.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

July 29 2012 01:55 GMT

#2158

Well scip didn't say he meant playing olaf as a jungler so I assume he means he will be staying top most of the time.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

July 29 2012 02:05 GMT

#2159

People aren't mentioning the #1 reason for playing as Olaf.

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Brolaf

sylverfyre

United States8298 Posts

July 29 2012 02:08 GMT

#2160

On July 28 2012 17:54 overt wrote:
The only NA pro players who played Rumble around release were jiji, Pobelter, and Voyboy. The fact that so many teams picked Rumble up after the change should be a pretty big indicator that the change probably made him too strong.

He was 100% viable pre-buff. Now he's seen way too frequently. Seems pretty obvious to nerf him slightly and then go from there.

I dunno, it's hard to be 100% viable when one of your abilities randomly doesn't work as it does on paper. When you're doing arbitrarily less than expected damage, at the top levels, you end up getting into alot of situations where you allin and come out 50 damage behind instead of 50 damage ahead, and lose a fight that you determined you should win. This is especially true top lane because of how isolated it is, and moreso when you're playing a lane bully like rumble.