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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 29 2012 00:27 GMT
#2141
On July 29 2012 09:24 Perplex wrote:
Just get 2 dorans instead then

That's what most people do now. Then again, every so often you'll see Wriggles for the armor vs really heavy AD lanes. I'd rather have Doran's, but I can see the idea.
It's your boy Guzma!
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 00:41:48
July 29 2012 00:38 GMT
#2142
Wriggles is a decent item on Riven. It probably makes sense to get it vs sustained AD harass that is difficult to retaliate against 100% of the time (i.e. panth or gp). Since you get free health from your e, resists are probably a bit better than health on riven (hence 0 additional health builds on riven)

Something else that might be worth trying is Doran's->Cutlass->Bruta. This is the build that Cris, that high elo Riven main, uses. I'm not sure how effective the build is but he is damn good at Riven so it's probably worth a try.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
July 29 2012 00:41 GMT
#2143
Never do anything because Cris has done it.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 29 2012 00:41 GMT
#2144
On July 29 2012 09:38 ViZe wrote:
Wriggles is decent item on Riven. It probably makes sense to get it vs sustained ad harass that is difficult to retaliate against 100% of the time (i.e. panth). Because you get free health from your e resists are probably a bit better than health on riven (hence 0 additional health builds on riven)

Something else that might be worth trying is Doran's->Cutlass->Bruta. This is the build that Cris, that high elo Riven main, uses. I'm not sure how effective the build is but he is damn good at Riven so it's probably worth a try.

Cutlass is nice in theory, but it's window of power is very small, and after that it doesn't build into anything useful, considering Gunblade spends too much on AP to be anywhere near cost effective for her.
It's your boy Guzma!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 29 2012 00:49 GMT
#2145
On July 29 2012 09:41 Craton wrote:
Never do anything because Cris has done it.

Watching Cris play like any hero makes me want to rip my eyes out
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 00:56:06
July 29 2012 00:50 GMT
#2146
On July 29 2012 09:49 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 09:41 Craton wrote:
Never do anything because Cris has done it.

Watching Cris play like any hero makes me want to rip my eyes out

Is Cris The Rainman or just some random dude?

EDIT: thanks guys.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 29 2012 00:51 GMT
#2147
On July 29 2012 09:50 valheru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 09:49 arb wrote:
On July 29 2012 09:41 Craton wrote:
Never do anything because Cris has done it.

Watching Cris play like any hero makes me want to rip my eyes out

Is Cris The Rainman or just some random dude?

Some random guy i think, no one really seems to enjoy playing with him when you see him on stream

he usually spends the entire game spam pinging for ganks or crying truthfully.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
July 29 2012 00:54 GMT
#2148
On July 29 2012 09:50 valheru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 09:49 arb wrote:
On July 29 2012 09:41 Craton wrote:
Never do anything because Cris has done it.

Watching Cris play like any hero makes me want to rip my eyes out

Is Cris The Rainman or just some random dude?


Cris is a player for vVv, according to his stream description
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 29 2012 00:58 GMT
#2149
On July 29 2012 09:07 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 08:59 Gahlo wrote:
On July 29 2012 08:38 IMoperator wrote:
I just bought riven and im not sure what build to do for her. Any suggestions?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272658


That guide says to get wriggles on Riven ._.

The point was to steer the champ centric discussion into the proper thread. Considering we just talked about the current build in there.

I don't know, maybe I have too strong of an impression about what is GD acceptable. =[
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 29 2012 00:59 GMT
#2150
Does Crunchyroll sponsor TSM now? That's kinda cool, actually.
It's your boy Guzma!
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
July 29 2012 01:16 GMT
#2151
On July 29 2012 09:59 Requizen wrote:
Does Crunchyroll sponsor TSM now? That's kinda cool, actually.


dyrus probably logs like 100 hours a week on that website watching anime. would have been easy for him to convince them
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 29 2012 01:23 GMT
#2152
That guide was made before another set of wriggles nerfs to the sustain and cost efficiency. Dorans tends to be stronger as their efficiency per slot and cost is nice, as well as providing a smoother power curve into the midgame lull while you wait for your bt
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 29 2012 01:27 GMT
#2153
i havent seen any bruisers get wriggles instead of phage or bf inr a while.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 29 2012 01:42 GMT
#2154
ogmomgomg guys
Olaf, right, CDR Olaf. Throw axe right below you, pick it up, throw again, 0.7s cooldown, its like having 2 autoattacks. Playing him jungle, might be better top but still seems OP as hell.
Why does nobody play him?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
July 29 2012 01:43 GMT
#2155
I never liked his ganks as much myself.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 29 2012 01:46 GMT
#2156
I can't stand ganking as him, and he runs through mana soooooo fast it bugs me :\
It's your boy Guzma!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 29 2012 01:47 GMT
#2157
Yeah, his ganks are kinda mediocre, he really really needs someone to have hard CC in lane and he is particularly bad at ganking middle. But he farms so fast, I think he might be pretty damn good counter-jungle jungler, kinda shyvana style stuff.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 29 2012 01:55 GMT
#2158
Well scip didn't say he meant playing olaf as a jungler so I assume he means he will be staying top most of the time.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 29 2012 02:05 GMT
#2159
People aren't mentioning the #1 reason for playing as Olaf.

+ Show Spoiler +

Brolaf
Freeeeeeedom
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 29 2012 02:08 GMT
#2160
On July 28 2012 17:54 overt wrote:
The only NA pro players who played Rumble around release were jiji, Pobelter, and Voyboy. The fact that so many teams picked Rumble up after the change should be a pretty big indicator that the change probably made him too strong.

He was 100% viable pre-buff. Now he's seen way too frequently. Seems pretty obvious to nerf him slightly and then go from there.

I dunno, it's hard to be 100% viable when one of your abilities randomly doesn't work as it does on paper. When you're doing arbitrarily less than expected damage, at the top levels, you end up getting into alot of situations where you allin and come out 50 damage behind instead of 50 damage ahead, and lose a fight that you determined you should win. This is especially true top lane because of how isolated it is, and moreso when you're playing a lane bully like rumble.
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