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SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
July 28 2012 18:59 GMT
#2101
On July 28 2012 17:46 Node wrote:
I remember awhile back when people were first checking out elobuff they were mentioning that on the site's stats rumble had one of the highest, if not the highest winrate, even though (or perhaps because) he wasn't picked very often. I imagine the bugfix / buff turned him from "under-the-radar top pick" to "idiot-proof".

I've seen people complaining about him on this forum for aaaaages. I'm surprised that him being so strong is new to some posters that have been around here awhile.


Karma/Urgot is highest winrate bottom lane... better nerf something
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 28 2012 21:26 GMT
#2102
Watching theOddOne playing WC3 makes me tear my hair out.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 28 2012 21:34 GMT
#2103
On July 29 2012 06:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Watching theOddOne playing WC3 makes me tear my hair out.

is he ghoul rushing everything again?
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
July 28 2012 22:05 GMT
#2104
I am so excited for Diana. I am going to go mid lane, but shove hard with my passive and then gank bot every minute. I can see her being a great pick vs. champs like LB, burst mages who cant push lane or farm at tower very well.

Since I am out of IP, I think this may be my first RP purchase
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 28 2012 22:08 GMT
#2105
On July 29 2012 06:34 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 06:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Watching theOddOne playing WC3 makes me tear my hair out.

is he ghoul rushing everything again?


I don't know about ghoul rushing, but he is just freaking TERRIBLE at the game.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 28 2012 22:09 GMT
#2106
On July 29 2012 07:05 Juddas wrote:
I am so excited for Diana. I am going to go mid lane, but shove hard with my passive and then gank bot every minute. I can see her being a great pick vs. champs like LB, burst mages who cant push lane or farm at tower very well.

Since I am out of IP, I think this may be my first RP purchase


I actually see Diana as a replacement for LeBlanc. Diana's burst is pretty good and she is tanky too.

She will fall hard in late game, but I am not too worried about this right now. As a mid player I am willing to skip Zyra for Diana.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
July 28 2012 22:11 GMT
#2107
On July 29 2012 07:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 06:34 Frolossus wrote:
On July 29 2012 06:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Watching theOddOne playing WC3 makes me tear my hair out.

is he ghoul rushing everything again?


I don't know about ghoul rushing, but he is just freaking TERRIBLE at the game.


he has fun playing it, relax and stop watching it if it upsets you O_O
hihihi
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
July 28 2012 22:17 GMT
#2108
On July 29 2012 07:11 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 07:08 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 29 2012 06:34 Frolossus wrote:
On July 29 2012 06:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Watching theOddOne playing WC3 makes me tear my hair out.

is he ghoul rushing everything again?


I don't know about ghoul rushing, but he is just freaking TERRIBLE at the game.


he has fun playing it, relax and stop watching it if it upsets you O_O

besides, he wins pretty often anyway zz
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
July 28 2012 22:23 GMT
#2109
On July 29 2012 07:09 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 07:05 Juddas wrote:
I am so excited for Diana. I am going to go mid lane, but shove hard with my passive and then gank bot every minute. I can see her being a great pick vs. champs like LB, burst mages who cant push lane or farm at tower very well.

Since I am out of IP, I think this may be my first RP purchase


I actually see Diana as a replacement for LeBlanc. Diana's burst is pretty good and she is tanky too.

She will fall hard in late game, but I am not too worried about this right now. As a mid player I am willing to skip Zyra for Diana.


My thoughts exactly about the skipping zyra. Although, I don't think I could ever give up my LeBlanc.

Also, ultimate akali counterpick?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 28 2012 22:27 GMT
#2110
On July 29 2012 00:56 TheYango wrote:
WH1T3ZZ AND TABE ARE BACK


So they should hopefully be at season 2 finals maybe? China gets three spots right and I would assume a team with those two would be able to smash everyone that isn't WE. Is Wh1t3tzz back to playing AP mid?
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 22:30:11
July 28 2012 22:29 GMT
#2111
Man that TSM vs MTW game 2. TSM has huge lead, but Aphroo decides to split push bot with Muffin as TSM is pushing down mid. The rest of the team decides to join Aphroo and TSM doesn't send anyone to defend so it becomes a base race. As TSM starts to push Nexus turrets they send Chaox to defend stalling their Nexus push, Chaox gets instagibbed at bottom inhib and TSM fights MTW Malphite at Nexus killing him. MTW sends Ahri to recall and defend and it literally comes down to both teams killing the Nexus turrets before TSM barely kills the Nexus first. Way too close of a game for something TSM should have won easily.

TSM wins 2-0 over MTW
Dig vs Orb Next
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 22:32:49
July 28 2012 22:29 GMT
#2112
Jayce not as good in the jungle as in lane, but playing Naut/Skarner and getting free wins every time isn't that entertaining :\

Who is most fun jungler?
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 28 2012 22:32 GMT
#2113
On July 29 2012 07:27 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 00:56 TheYango wrote:
WH1T3ZZ AND TABE ARE BACK


So they should hopefully be at season 2 finals maybe? China gets three spots right and I would assume a team with those two would be able to smash everyone that isn't WE. Is Wh1t3tzz back to playing AP mid?

Unfortunately, World Champs qualifiers at CCJoy were played from the 26th-28th, 1 day after Tabe, Santa, and Bdmonster joined the team. They lost to iG in the finals of the event (not terribly unsurprising, seeing as Santa and Bdmonster are new to professional play, and the team had only officially been together for 3 days), so they will not be going to the Season 2 Finals.

I do have my sights set on them to see how they will do in the coming months.
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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
July 28 2012 22:37 GMT
#2114
On July 29 2012 07:29 Requizen wrote:
Jayce not as good in the jungle as in lane, but playing Naut/Skarner and getting free wins every time isn't that entertaining :\

Who is most fun jungler?



Jax. Jump out of bush, pound the shit out of someone, rinse, repeat.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 28 2012 22:37 GMT
#2115
On July 29 2012 07:29 Requizen wrote:
Jayce not as good in the jungle as in lane, but playing Naut/Skarner and getting free wins every time isn't that entertaining :\

Who is most fun jungler?

Udyr.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 28 2012 22:39 GMT
#2116
On July 29 2012 07:29 Requizen wrote:
Jayce not as good in the jungle as in lane, but playing Naut/Skarner and getting free wins every time isn't that entertaining :\

Who is most fun jungler?

Mobo cow
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 28 2012 22:40 GMT
#2117
On July 29 2012 07:29 Requizen wrote:
Jayce not as good in the jungle as in lane, but playing Naut/Skarner and getting free wins every time isn't that entertaining :\

Who is most fun jungler?


Follow Phreak's instructions - jungle Irelia!

I kid of course.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 28 2012 22:43 GMT
#2118
On July 29 2012 07:32 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 07:27 overt wrote:
On July 29 2012 00:56 TheYango wrote:
WH1T3ZZ AND TABE ARE BACK


So they should hopefully be at season 2 finals maybe? China gets three spots right and I would assume a team with those two would be able to smash everyone that isn't WE. Is Wh1t3tzz back to playing AP mid?

Unfortunately, World Champs qualifiers at CCJoy were played from the 26th-28th, 1 day after Tabe, Santa, and Bdmonster joined the team. They lost to iG in the finals of the event (not terribly unsurprising, seeing as Santa and Bdmonster are new to professional play, and the team had only officially been together for 3 days), so they will not be going to the Season 2 Finals.

I do have my sights set on them to see how they will do in the coming months.


Ah, that does suck. I also have to say that I'm a little disappointed to see that Tabe is playing support. I guess BSYY is a really good AD to warrant Mikako on support.
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
July 28 2012 23:12 GMT
#2119
Hey, I've recently had my wisdom teeth removed, and although I'm not on painkillers at the moment I have lost a lot of blood and am lightheaded in general. I've been playing league because the camera doesn't give me a headache, and I feel that I can play it competently at a low level despite being mentally impaired at the moment.

I think my biggest issue right now is some serious tunnel vision going on. I can do well in a solo lane, but keeping track of everything in order to jungle well is kind of an issue. Supporting in a duo lane is fine enough, although my warding is definately off, and I've yet to AD Carry while impaired.

Without starting a "[Style] - Impaired Playing" thread, I would like to ask for some ways (champions, playstyles, general strategies, etc) to compensate for awful tunnel vision without actually trying to overcome the issue itself. I don't feel that my reaction time, small-scale awareness, mechanics, or other abilities are impaired below normal levels. ELO level would be the 900-1000 range if it affects advice.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
July 28 2012 23:16 GMT
#2120
The best way is to say fuck it and grind games. Game sense is mostly based on playtime and reflection.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
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