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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 17 2012 19:21 GMT
#1901
just got in ranked queue and tried to quit but it wont let me, had to restart client and now stuck in queue
tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
June 17 2012 19:21 GMT
#1902
wtf is NA down again?
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 19:25:14
June 17 2012 19:24 GMT
#1903
On June 18 2012 04:18 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:21 JackDino wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:16 gtrsrs wrote:
i guess i don't know why they would change the splash art on skins that are not default skins
when you buy a work of art, you don't give the artist the right to come to your house and change it whenever they want
you buy it for what you like about the original piece

changing alternate skins just feels... cheap to me

Jokes on you for paying for splashart in that case. Pretty sure I got mine for free.


that's... exactly what i'm saying?
the joke IS on me and that's not right from a consumer standpoint


also, shikyo, define easy
if there's anything about manually changing any files or downloading any splashes, that's not easy
if it's as easy as a menu option that says "use old splash art," that's easy

No, the point is the splash art is free, you didn't pay for it hence them changing it is fine. You pay for the skin since that's the only thing you need to buy to be able to view it ingame. Sure it sucks if they change the art, it sucks more when you buy a champ and it gets reworked completely.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 17 2012 19:27 GMT
#1904
how is the splash art free at all?
i don't buy skins for the in-game model i buy them for the splash art
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 19:35:43
June 17 2012 19:32 GMT
#1905
I can view the splash whenever I want without buying, guess I've been stealing a lot from riot.
But you have a point. I'm going to complain to riot for buffing/nerfing all these champions I've bought, that's not how I've bought them and I'd like to keep them how I've bought them.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 17 2012 19:32 GMT
#1906
On June 18 2012 04:27 gtrsrs wrote:
how is the splash art free at all?
i don't buy skins for the in-game model i buy them for the splash art

The splash art is available to you whether or not you own the skin. In-game or out-of-game, you can go look at the splash art through the champ viewer/other websites.

The only exclusive content you have access to through paying money is the in-game model. Hence, that's the only component you actually paid for.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11803 Posts
June 17 2012 19:33 GMT
#1907
Well, one could argue that the splash art is a part of the skin, and thus not free, but instead you pay for it, too. However, this whole situation is not THAT clear, since i think most people agree that patching a game is not a bad thing in general. Thus, what you pay for is not a constant thing anyways, since both the champion and the rest of the game frequently changes. This is especially true for champions, but then if the champion changes, the value you get from the skin for that champion changes too, in my opinion at least. I don't see an easy way to resolve that in a way where what you paid for never changes in a game like LoL. Also, i think a lot of people would not really mind if older skins they own get reworked to the standard that has evolved in the meantime since they were implemented. So basically, you mostly just have to trust riot and/or hope that you dont hate what changes about the stuff you bought. And i don't really see a way this could work differently in a non-stagnant game.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 17 2012 19:33 GMT
#1908
On June 18 2012 04:27 gtrsrs wrote:
how is the splash art free at all?
i don't buy skins for the in-game model i buy them for the splash art

Please tell me youre joking

that 15-30 seconds someone gets to see that skin is totally worth the 10$ spent on it, especially when they/you can view it for free
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 17 2012 19:41 GMT
#1909
the manager for mtw is super hot omg
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
June 17 2012 19:43 GMT
#1910
omg pics
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 19:48:31
June 17 2012 19:44 GMT
#1911
On June 18 2012 02:19 Flakes wrote:
They could use a weighted random based on your most frequently played champs, but I also think they should just not accommodate AFKers.

By weighted random you mean 66% Teemo, 33% Eve, 1% Twitch right? Yes, that must be it.
On June 18 2012 04:33 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:27 gtrsrs wrote:
how is the splash art free at all?
i don't buy skins for the in-game model i buy them for the splash art

Please tell me youre joking

that 15-30 seconds someone gets to see that skin is totally worth the 10$ spent on it, especially when they/you can view it for free

You don't buy a Rolex because people can't see one unless they spend a lot of money. Not because it shows time more conveniently than another watch. You buy a Rolex because it means "I GOT MONEY". Well, you had money.

Get a grip on reality, man.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
June 17 2012 19:44 GMT
#1912
yango did you calculate in the attackspeed on black cleaver?
And all is illuminated.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 17 2012 19:46 GMT
#1913
hey guys, good news i just bought the mona lisa and i'm going to share it with all of you!
yay free mona lisa for everyone, we now all literally own the mona lisa thanks to your definition of ownership and free-ness

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fQQ1RUaMzrs/TUiCmVNKPVI/AAAAAAAADks/v1nOGNebYH8/s1600/Mona Lisa.jpg


oh and don't tell riot but i just stole $70,000 worth of art from them, as i now have ALL THE IN-GAME CHAMPION MODELS
http://lol.zones.gamebase.com.tw/skin_view/jax_pax?mode=#skin


you guys have to be shitting me
everything on the internet is "free"
you pay for the in-game models, i have my models on super-low quality and dgaf what they look like in-game because when i'm playing the game i only want to win, not gawk at my champion
but during champ select and loading screen, i want to look at super cool splash arts that i "bought"
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 17 2012 19:50 GMT
#1914
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#1915
On June 18 2012 04:44 freelander wrote:
yango did you calculate in the attackspeed on black cleaver?

I think I did, unless I screwed up something bad.
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samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
June 17 2012 19:58 GMT
#1916
man id join mtw just for the manager!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 17 2012 20:27 GMT
#1917
Gnomesayin has the coolest accent ever, have her added on my FL ^^
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 20:35:33
June 17 2012 20:33 GMT
#1918
Man....while the server has been down I've been smufing on EU W.
This shit is hilarious....does everyone here call you 'noob' and/or threaten to report you when you beat them and/or are winning your lane?
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 17 2012 20:38 GMT
#1919
On June 18 2012 05:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Man....while the server has been down I've been smufing on EU W.
This shit is hilarious....does everyone here call you 'noob' and/or threaten to report you when you beat them and/or are winning your lane?

Pretty sure that's just low level general, not limited to region.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
June 17 2012 20:39 GMT
#1920
The server status says unavailable for me
Then after a while it just says undefined
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
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