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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 18 2012 06:43 mordek wrote: I've struggled with ranged AD but Graves is just easy to play. Using smoke wisely can take skill but he's simple other than that. I actually think the easiest ADC is Caitlyn. Good poke, not vulnerable to mistakes (E), fantastic range, and a steroid (although weak) that is always on. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:12 BlackMagister wrote: Isn't Caitlyn actually really hard to use properly only Doublelift can use her? Because yeah she does fine in lane, but you really need to shut the other AD carry down in lane because the other AD carry will bring more in team fights. So you have to constantly manage your harass and cs. If you're even with Caitlyn in lane you're winning. These things I hear over and over again. How is it hard to shut the other ADC down when you can easily win the lane as Caitlyn against practically all other ADCs? Her problem is her weak steroid and late-game scaling. Meanwhile, she stomps the lane hard. Fantastic for soloQ. I think pros do not play her because in coordinated teams, it's much easier to run other, "less-forgiving" ADCs which are also more powerful | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:08 Sufficiency wrote: I actually think the easiest ADC is Caitlyn. Good poke, not vulnerable to mistakes (E), fantastic range, and a steroid (although weak) that is always on. I feel like Caitlyn should be the easiest... however my experience with SoloQueue tells me otherwise. I think Caitlyn is the AD that allows you to showcase your mechanics the best. If you are mechanically superior to the enemy AD and you are playing Cait you will win lane regardless of your support/jungler/any other factors.... You would be surprised how many Caits I see just get hard engaged on and die horribly though. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:18 iCanada wrote: I feel like Caitlyn should be the easiest... however my experience with SoloQueue tells me otherwise. I think Caitlyn is the AD that allows you to showcase your mechanics the best. If you are mechanically superior to the enemy AD and you are playing Cait you will win lane regardless of your support/jungler/any other factors.... You would be surprised how many Caits I see just get hard engaged on and die horribly though. So that's roughly how I see Caitlyn as well. In soloQ teams with bad support, Caitlyn really shines because she is well-rounded. Pros do not like well-rounded things though as they typically prefer emphasis on certain aspects. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:05 mcimba42 wrote: riot is generally just really shitty they have a cool game and all, and their business model and community interaction is pretty nice, but in terms of actually doing work they're really fucking horrible. i guess it's to be expected, all they've done is turn a wc3 mod into a standalone game, it happened to be really successful but they were never a major company Are you being serious? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:29 Alaric wrote: What I've been saying since Sona got nerfed from "strong everywhere, too much compared to specialists" to "all-around mediocre". T_T The thing is, Riot also kind of shies away from the specialists being too good at what they specialize in as well (see the issues with someone like Leblanc or Pantheon). So in that sense, things are pretty generalized as well, which is why the real all-rounders are in an awkward place. Among the competitively-used champions, there aren't any super-lopsided kits where someone is really bad at something. The all-rounders are stuck in an awkward place then because being good at everything is OP, and being ok at everything isn't good enough because everyone is ok at everything. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:26 Sufficiency wrote: So that's roughly how I see Caitlyn as well. In soloQ teams with bad support, Caitlyn really shines because she is well-rounded. Pros do not like well-rounded things though as they typically prefer emphasis on certain aspects. I dunno, I still think she is really strong. She just requires you to be better than the other AD. Hence why only Doublelift can play her well at the pro level. A good Cait is a nightmare to lane against and doesn't fall off nearly as hard as say an Urgot. I also think her lategame is really strong, second only to like Trist or maybe Kog. Even someone like me who plays Junglers/Top laners almost exclusively I have no problems positioning myself in a teamfight and escaping people who dive me while shooting things the whole time. Her ult also a surprisingly strong initiate/cleanup tool too. | ||
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mcimba42
192 Posts
no man that was a comedy act, i've been practicing all week yes, i'm serious. riot made a game and it got popular, now they got really big, but they still don't work as a major company should. anyone can tell you that lol is poorly coded and generally has a ton of really dumb problems that no game this big should possibly have after all these years | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:47 mcimba42 wrote: no man that was a comedy act, i've been practicing all week yes, i'm serious. riot made a game and it got popular, now they got really big, but they still don't work as a major company should. anyone can tell you that lol is poorly coded and generally has a ton of really dumb problems that no game this big should possibly have after all these years I could name you D3 that has even worse problems and pretty much every mmo out there, atleast league is f2p. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:47 mcimba42 wrote: no man that was a comedy act, i've been practicing all week yes, i'm serious. riot made a game and it got popular, now they got really big, but they still don't work as a major company should. anyone can tell you that lol is poorly coded and generally has a ton of really dumb problems that no game this big should possibly have after all these years Dohoho Tell that to Blizzard/Bioware/any big video game company | ||
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Raisauce
Canada864 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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mcimba42
192 Posts
when was the last time that happened with b.net? except on the launch of one of the most anticipated games of the last few years? cmon guys, lol is fun, but would you seriously defend the lobby client we have right now, for example? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22281 Posts
They can fix LoL's code. but the work will take a long time. Not much less then it took to build the game in the first place. Thats so much time spend with no profit coming from it since its a f2p game. End of the day the money there bad code costs is nothing compared to the costs of fixing it. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On June 18 2012 07:57 mcimba42 wrote: just look at what happened to the servers today, for absolutely no reason when was the last time that happened with b.net? except on the launch of one of the most anticipated games of the last few years? cmon guys, lol is fun, but would you seriously defend the lobby client we have right now, for example? Most anticipated game of the last few years, rich company, still isn't prepared properly. That's really fucking pathetic for a company as big as blizzard. Random server maintenance on a sunday. MMO's having random maintenances in weekends(tera for example). Extended maintenance etc etc. Riot usually does a good job with their maintenance, sometimes it's extended but more often than not they're ahead of time. The client does suck real hard though, but other than that shit like that happens. It's not as easy to manage all dem servers as you think. | ||
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mcimba42
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