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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11629 Posts
June 17 2012 20:46 GMT
#1921
Well, i can only speak for my elo, but up until ~1400, yes, people believe that losing a lane is a bannable offense, and of course that everyone but themselves is a noob, should die of cancer, and so on. Is that different somewhere else? I want to be there.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 20:50:13
June 17 2012 20:49 GMT
#1922
The phrasing changes, but the rhetoric's the same.
twitch.tv/cratonz
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 20:57:57
June 17 2012 20:57 GMT
#1923
No but see that's the thing...I get your teammates calling you out and threatening to report you for being bad and losing your lane...(sorta)
But these people were threatening to report me for winning. And it's happened in every game I've played here on EU W but not on my NA smurf.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 17 2012 20:58 GMT
#1924
Fun fact:

Never touched Graves before apart from 1 botgame or so half a year ago. Tank elo really low while learning AD carry. Buy Graves. After 5 games 4-1 with KDA average of 8.4:1.6:4.6

Moral of the story: Holy shit is Graves easy in comparison to other AD carries
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 17 2012 21:04 GMT
#1925
Imo Graves is hard if you main ADs, and easy if you main Bruisers. He's a bruiser with range, after all.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 21:17:41
June 17 2012 21:16 GMT
#1926
On June 18 2012 06:04 spinesheath wrote:
Imo Graves is hard if you main ADs, and easy if you main Bruisers. He's a bruiser with range, after all.

Hmm yeah that might be why, he seems more natural to me than most other ADs probably for that reason. Either way I find it kind of strange. I guess Corki is like a more difficult version of him too

(I would never call him difficult though even if you main AD normally)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
June 17 2012 21:18 GMT
#1927
On June 18 2012 06:04 spinesheath wrote:
Imo Graves is hard if you main ADs, and easy if you main Bruisers. He's a bruiser with range, after all.


Bullshit. Graves has escape and steroid e, the "blind, good clearing with Q (and burst) and a fantastic ulti. If anything he is really friggin easy.
Dead girls don't say no.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 17 2012 21:19 GMT
#1928
CLG.EU just cameback from a almost 30k deficit against m5 to win, Froggen too strong.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 17 2012 21:19 GMT
#1929
That feeling when you play Cait w/ apen against graves.
liftlift > tsm
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 17 2012 21:23 GMT
#1930
On June 18 2012 05:58 Shikyo wrote:
Fun fact:

Never touched Graves before apart from 1 botgame or so half a year ago. Tank elo really low while learning AD carry. Buy Graves. After 5 games 4-1 with KDA average of 8.4:1.6:4.6

Moral of the story: Holy shit is Graves easy in comparison to other AD carries

You should try urgot. Lose lane, still beat enemy ad in 1v1 (also this was urgot vs graves).
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 17 2012 21:24 GMT
#1931
On June 18 2012 06:18 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:04 spinesheath wrote:
Imo Graves is hard if you main ADs, and easy if you main Bruisers. He's a bruiser with range, after all.


Bullshit. Graves has escape and steroid e, the "blind, good clearing with Q (and burst) and a fantastic ulti. If anything he is really friggin easy.

Well duh. I'm bad with Bruisers, and "good" with ADs. But I am bad with Graves.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 17 2012 21:28 GMT
#1932
NA down and EU patching soooo long zzz
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 17 2012 21:34 GMT
#1933
Viktor bugs finally addressed.
Carrilord has arrived.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 21:38:06
June 17 2012 21:37 GMT
#1934
What did Regi say about the GESL that made him apologize on his Facebook?
currently rooting for myself.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 17 2012 21:40 GMT
#1935
On June 18 2012 06:04 spinesheath wrote:
Imo Graves is hard if you main ADs, and easy if you main Bruisers. He's a bruiser with range, after all.


I disagree. I main ADs and I have never had any problems with Graves. If anything Graves is a lot easier to win lane with than a lot of other ADs imo.

On June 18 2012 06:37 Shiv. wrote:
What did Regi say about the GESL that made him apologize on his Facebook?


He said TSM would never go back to GESL. A lot of TSM was really mad about GESL. Dunno if it was because of poor organization or the day 1 issues or what. They didn't really specify.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 17 2012 21:43 GMT
#1936
I've struggled with ranged AD but Graves is just easy to play. Using smoke wisely can take skill but he's simple other than that.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
June 17 2012 21:48 GMT
#1937
On June 18 2012 06:18 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:04 spinesheath wrote:
Imo Graves is hard if you main ADs, and easy if you main Bruisers. He's a bruiser with range, after all.


Bullshit. Graves has escape and steroid e, the "blind, good clearing with Q (and burst) and a fantastic ulti. If anything he is really friggin easy.


Graves path changes history.

+ Show Spoiler +
v1.0.0.141 - 2012-06-06

Buckshot
Damage reduced at later ranks to 60/95/130/165/200 from 60/105/150/195/240
Damage per extra bullet increased to 35% from 25%
Smoke Screen duration reduced to 4 seconds from 5 seconds

v1.0.0.139 - 2012-05-01

Fixed a bug where using a ward could break Buckshot's sound

v1.0.0.138 - 2012-04-17

Fixed a bug where Collateral Damage could cost mana and go on cooldown without firing

v.1.0.0.138 - 2012-04-19

Fixed a bug where Collateral Damage could cost mana and go on cooldown without firing

v1.0.0.132 - 2012-01-18

Buckshot Mana cost increased to 60/70/80/90/100 from 60/65/70/75/80
Collateral Damage
Initial damage reduced to 250/350/450 from 250/375/500
Explosion damage reduced to 140/250/360 from 140/275/400
Cooldown increased to 100/90/80 from 80/70/60

v1.0.0.129 - 2011-11-15

General

Attack range reduced to 525 from 550
Base mana lowered to 295 from 342

Buckshot damage per additional missile reduced to 25% from 30%
Fixed a few small tooltip errors

v1.0.0.128 - 2011-11-01

True Grit
Buff duration reduced to 3 seconds from 4
Armor and magic resistance per stack reduced to 3 from 4 at max level
Buckshot damage per additional missile reduced to 30% from 35%



Smokescreen received one minor nerf, E has never been touched. Practically all of Grave's nerfs have been to his Q or hit his base stats.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 17 2012 21:53 GMT
#1938
On June 18 2012 06:48 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:18 Sqq wrote:
On June 18 2012 06:04 spinesheath wrote:
Imo Graves is hard if you main ADs, and easy if you main Bruisers. He's a bruiser with range, after all.


Bullshit. Graves has escape and steroid e, the "blind, good clearing with Q (and burst) and a fantastic ulti. If anything he is really friggin easy.


Graves path changes history.

+ Show Spoiler +
v1.0.0.141 - 2012-06-06

Buckshot
Damage reduced at later ranks to 60/95/130/165/200 from 60/105/150/195/240
Damage per extra bullet increased to 35% from 25%
Smoke Screen duration reduced to 4 seconds from 5 seconds

v1.0.0.139 - 2012-05-01

Fixed a bug where using a ward could break Buckshot's sound

v1.0.0.138 - 2012-04-17

Fixed a bug where Collateral Damage could cost mana and go on cooldown without firing

v.1.0.0.138 - 2012-04-19

Fixed a bug where Collateral Damage could cost mana and go on cooldown without firing

v1.0.0.132 - 2012-01-18

Buckshot Mana cost increased to 60/70/80/90/100 from 60/65/70/75/80
Collateral Damage
Initial damage reduced to 250/350/450 from 250/375/500
Explosion damage reduced to 140/250/360 from 140/275/400
Cooldown increased to 100/90/80 from 80/70/60

v1.0.0.129 - 2011-11-15

General

Attack range reduced to 525 from 550
Base mana lowered to 295 from 342

Buckshot damage per additional missile reduced to 25% from 30%
Fixed a few small tooltip errors

v1.0.0.128 - 2011-11-01

True Grit
Buff duration reduced to 3 seconds from 4
Armor and magic resistance per stack reduced to 3 from 4 at max level
Buckshot damage per additional missile reduced to 30% from 35%



Smokescreen received one minor nerf, E has never been touched. Practically all of Grave's nerfs have been to his Q or hit his base stats.

While Graves E is an escape, it gives less AS than Tristanas at Max level, and while hers doesnt get its CD lowered on auto attack, graves also has vastly lower range.
I think aside from graves burst(which is alot lower than it used to be) his Smokescreen is really his biggest problem.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 17 2012 22:02 GMT
#1939
I honestly wonder if the Riot QA team has all been sleeping or something. How can such a minor patch cause such catastrophe to the server???
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
June 17 2012 22:05 GMT
#1940
riot is generally just really shitty

they have a cool game and all, and their business model and community interaction is pretty nice, but in terms of actually doing work they're really fucking horrible. i guess it's to be expected, all they've done is turn a wc3 mod into a standalone game, it happened to be really successful but they were never a major company
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