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On June 17 2012 05:31 Dark_Chill wrote:
I've been playing Darkspore every now and then, and I find that some of the ideas there could really be put into LoL and look good:
-shield you can put onto allies that does damage to people who attack them
-make an area that heals allies standing in it
-passive that can give your attacks random effects (deal dot, mini-stun, slow, etc)
-aoe centered around caster dealing poison (dot) to all enemies effected)
-long-range skillshot that accelerates and deals more damage the faster it is
- n/a
- Janna's ult
- Lulu's E
- Amumu's W, Fiddle's ult, kind of Singed's Q
- Nidalee's Q
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jax is done solo top a lot. pro players love him and he does a ton of lanes really well. there are a few tricks you can do to really ramp up the damage on him like double taping minons before jumping onto the other guy and then starting your stun. with a little bit of skill you can get 2 w's 2 r procs a q and an e without taking any aa damage. I saw wingsofdeath play him a few times and really loved starting to play him again.
I've been getting brawlers gloves first for ww into an arvarice blade and an executioners calling instead of going a wriggles route. I don't know if I've stumbled onto something epic or if I'm a horrible baddie. Please tell me if I'm a baddie okay?
Its 30% crit chance and 18% lifesteal I really like it especially for its cost and its damage. at least for a replacement for a wriggles. It gives more hp back with lifesteal because the proc in this case would return health and it would make your ganks a lot stronger when almost every third attack would crit. add in a ninja tabi and then a hexdrinker and my ganks get really strong while being a very good initiator snowballing into a GA and finaly atmogs.
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On June 17 2012 07:48 Sermokala wrote:
jax is done solo top a lot. pro players love him and he does a ton of lanes really well. there are a few tricks you can do to really ramp up the damage on him like double taping minons before jumping onto the other guy and then starting your stun. with a little bit of skill you can get 2 w's 2 r procs a q and an e without taking any aa damage. I saw wingsofdeath play him a few times and really loved starting to play him again.
I've been getting brawlers gloves first for ww into an arvarice blade and an executioners calling instead of going a wriggles route. I don't know if I've stumbled onto something epic or if I'm a horrible baddie. Please tell me if I'm a baddie okay?
you're a baddie
should be going boots + 1 pot on ww, rushing wit's end
it's okay though, avarice *seems* like it'd be okay on ww
if you want gp10 you're gonna want hog though
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On June 17 2012 07:57 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:48 Sermokala wrote:
jax is done solo top a lot. pro players love him and he does a ton of lanes really well. there are a few tricks you can do to really ramp up the damage on him like double taping minons before jumping onto the other guy and then starting your stun. with a little bit of skill you can get 2 w's 2 r procs a q and an e without taking any aa damage. I saw wingsofdeath play him a few times and really loved starting to play him again.
I've been getting brawlers gloves first for ww into an arvarice blade and an executioners calling instead of going a wriggles route. I don't know if I've stumbled onto something epic or if I'm a horrible baddie. Please tell me if I'm a baddie okay? you're a baddie should be going boots + 1 pot on ww, rushing wit's end it's okay though, avarice *seems* like it'd be okay on ww if you want gp10 you're gonna want hog though
If you're rushing for gp10, it's better to start regrowth pendant/hp crystal, as hp regen/hp is actually useful in the jungle.
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On June 17 2012 07:57 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:48 Sermokala wrote:
jax is done solo top a lot. pro players love him and he does a ton of lanes really well. there are a few tricks you can do to really ramp up the damage on him like double taping minons before jumping onto the other guy and then starting your stun. with a little bit of skill you can get 2 w's 2 r procs a q and an e without taking any aa damage. I saw wingsofdeath play him a few times and really loved starting to play him again.
I've been getting brawlers gloves first for ww into an arvarice blade and an executioners calling instead of going a wriggles route. I don't know if I've stumbled onto something epic or if I'm a horrible baddie. Please tell me if I'm a baddie okay? you're a baddie should be going boots + 1 pot on ww, rushing wit's end it's okay though, avarice *seems* like it'd be okay on ww if you want gp10 you're gonna want hog though
avarice on ww? his damage is mostly magic... :/
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On June 17 2012 08:01 Abenson wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:57 gtrsrs wrote:On June 17 2012 07:48 Sermokala wrote:
jax is done solo top a lot. pro players love him and he does a ton of lanes really well. there are a few tricks you can do to really ramp up the damage on him like double taping minons before jumping onto the other guy and then starting your stun. with a little bit of skill you can get 2 w's 2 r procs a q and an e without taking any aa damage. I saw wingsofdeath play him a few times and really loved starting to play him again.
I've been getting brawlers gloves first for ww into an arvarice blade and an executioners calling instead of going a wriggles route. I don't know if I've stumbled onto something epic or if I'm a horrible baddie. Please tell me if I'm a baddie okay? you're a baddie should be going boots + 1 pot on ww, rushing wit's end it's okay though, avarice *seems* like it'd be okay on ww if you want gp10 you're gonna want hog though If you're rushing for gp10, it's better to start regrowth pendant/hp crystal, as hp regen/hp is actually useful in the jungle.
not on warwick though
he has no need for regen
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Mana regen is non-terrible on lanewick, but you really don't need to press Q to clear your jungle efficiently. W is cheap as hell and clears camps fine. Q maybe on buff camps, but that's the most Q-ing you need. Besides, you'll probably pick up glacial/frozen heart eventually anyway.
Also, since WW NEEDS wriggle to keep his clear time decent, by the time you get around to building GP10 items, it's really too late for them to pay themselves off, so unless you really want shurelia or randuin it's not worth it.
Crit isn't very good for WW. You want on-hit items because they work better with his ult, and because your passive is magic damage (and makes up a reasonable part of your damage) crit won't ever do very much unless you were to build IE or something. And if you're building IE on WW, you're doing it wrong, you're not a carry. Not to mention wit's end gives you more damage on your Ulti than IE, while also giving you resists and being half the cost.
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On June 17 2012 06:20 HazMat wrote:
You guys sure love pointless drama.
zzz... agreed. at least it's not about hotshot and becca, good god that was boring
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What kind of Junglewick are you?
classified by starting items:
boots+1 - "I recognize Warwick's natural affinity for jungling. Boots will get me around the jungle faster, and allow me to early gan- HAHA JUST KIDDING I'm Warwick!"
longsword + 1 - "I'm going wriggles because every jungler goes wriggles, right?"
dagger + 1 - "I use the same runepage for every champion that autoattacks"
cloth + 5 - "Stonewall said you can jungle any champion with cloth+5 and smite!"
brawler's gloves + 2 - "If I increase my crit chance above 0%, it's like unlocking INFINITY DPS -- I saw some people saying it in General Discussion that one time"
anything else - "GODDAMMIT I CALLED TOP FIRST YOU GUYS ARE ASSHOLES"
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On June 17 2012 09:45 Flakes wrote:
What kind of Junglewick are you?
classified by starting items:
boots+1 - "I recognize Warwick's natural affinity for jungling. Boots will get me around the jungle faster, and allow me to early gan- HAHA JUST KIDDING I'm Warwick!"
:DDD
win
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On June 17 2012 09:10 sylverfyre wrote:
Also, since WW NEEDS wriggle to keep his clear time decent, by the time you get around to building GP10 items, it's really too late for them to pay themselves off, so unless you really want shurelia or randuin it's not worth it.
as a single-creep clearer anyway, wit's end provides about as much dps over time to creeps as wriggles does, and much higher dps to champs
if you want gp10 on ww you def want hog and i'd go something like
boots + 1 pot, rush recurve, hog, finish wit's, finish mercs, w/e like frozen heart
regrowth -> philo is definitely possible but i don't think it's necessary
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I was wondering why high ground doesn't work like it does in Starcraft. If you are on a cliff, you can't see guys beneath you unless you have a ward there, and they basically work as line of sight blockers. Would anyone know why it doesn't work like that it LoL?
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It would be unnecessary complexity that adds no real value for LoL. The terrain is basically all level as it is.
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On June 17 2012 11:03 Lorken wrote:
I was wondering why high ground doesn't work like it does in Starcraft. If you are on a cliff, you can't see guys beneath you unless you have a ward there, and they basically work as line of sight blockers. Would anyone know why it doesn't work like that it LoL?
There's no distinction in high ground and low ground in LoL. There are only walls.
On June 17 2012 11:06 Craton wrote:
It would be unnecessary complexity that adds no real value for LoL. The terrain is basically all level as it is.
Ehh, there are certain gains to be had for slightly more complex vision mechanics. For one, it's a significant contributor to defender's advantage, that could be a factor in making it less likely for games to snowball.
It's not a huge deal either way, but it's also not "no real value".
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Ok, thanks! It does look a little like a cliff overlooking the river though (on both sides)
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On June 17 2012 11:07 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 11:03 Lorken wrote:
I was wondering why high ground doesn't work like it does in Starcraft. If you are on a cliff, you can't see guys beneath you unless you have a ward there, and they basically work as line of sight blockers. Would anyone know why it doesn't work like that it LoL? There's no distinction in high ground and low ground in LoL. There is only Zuul.
Fixed that for you.
As for WW, can't you start Vamp too, to add to Flakes' list?
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On June 17 2012 11:18 Lorken wrote:
Ok, thanks! It does look a little like a cliff overlooking the river though (on both sides)
It is, i think but theres no high ground or low ground thing in league like in Starcraft, so they just use it as a sight blocker
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On June 17 2012 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
As for WW, can't you start Vamp too, to add to Flakes' list?
I don't really know enough about either Warwick or jungling to make a snarky remark about vamp scepter, but I was thinking about putting it after longsword:
Vampiric Scepter - "I am also going wriggles, but I forgot what Warwick's passive does"
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On June 17 2012 11:03 Lorken wrote:
I was wondering why high ground doesn't work like it does in Starcraft. If you are on a cliff, you can't see guys beneath you unless you have a ward there, and they basically work as line of sight blockers. Would anyone know why it doesn't work like that it LoL?
I don't know much about Starcraft but isn't it the other way around in that game? People on cliff can see down, people down of cliff can't see up?
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On June 17 2012 11:28 MooMooMugi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 11:03 Lorken wrote:
I was wondering why high ground doesn't work like it does in Starcraft. If you are on a cliff, you can't see guys beneath you unless you have a ward there, and they basically work as line of sight blockers. Would anyone know why it doesn't work like that it LoL? I don't know much about Starcraft but isn't it the other way around in that game? People on cliff can see down, people down of cliff can't see up?
In broodwar you can see units that attack you and fire back with a lower chance to hit, in sc2 i think you can see them but cant attack?
more or less people on the cliff can see down, and people down the cliff can see up with those restrictions.
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