EPTdoesnt prove anything but i just really like this TPA teamfight.
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
doesnt prove anything but i just really like this TPA teamfight. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On June 13 2012 02:57 Shikyo wrote: Playing with Draven for a while, I'm pretty sure he's completely horrible unless I'm missing something. Deals 0 dmg, 0 escape, 0 steroid, 0 cc, 0 usefulness in teamfights, deals less dmg than cait unless you melee catching Q, 0 range You realize you can guide how your axe returns, right? It's dependent on your vector/speed when Q hits. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:07 r.Evo wrote: You realize you can guide how your axe returns, right? It's dependent on your vector/speed when Q hits. Yes I do. Your point? I mean you know what a waste of time it is to run backwards to catch one etc? esp as your aspd is rly high | ||
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mcimba42
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:08 Shikyo wrote: Yes I do. Your point? I mean you know what a waste of time it is to run backwards to catch one etc? esp as your aspd is rly high Protip: Adjust your build. Stacking PDs might not be the way to play Draven. Protip: Guide the axe to the side, or in whatever direction you need to go anyways. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:06 nyxnyxnyx wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1b_aouslhk doesnt prove anything but i just really like this TPA teamfight. Wow, that's a clean team fight, lulu+morg ulti seems a bit too good. That's actually an amazing combo. (wish i thought of it >.<) | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On June 12 2012 21:41 rob.au wrote: where do you see chinese tournaments? You can watch many live Asian matches on the GarenaTW channel (but usually it's of lesser Asian teams or TPA stomping these lesser Asian teams) http://www.twitch.tv/garenatw Their youtube channels have many saved vods as well TPA's youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/TaipeiAssassins/ GarenaTW's youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/GarenaTaiwan/ Personally I think TPA is the best team in the world, I honestly don't see any weakness in their current team. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:38 Alaric wrote: Does the speed really affect the point where the axe lands? From what I've seen it just goes a set distance based on your current MS, all you have to do it take even a single step in a direction right when your aa hits. Or did I miss something and there are further tricks to controlling the axe? The axe lands closer to you if you're not moving when the aa hits, so presumably you can control its distance by pressing stop a split second before the axe hits your target. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:24 spinesheath wrote: Protip: Adjust your build. Stacking PDs might not be the way to play Draven. Protip: Guide the axe to the side, or in whatever direction you need to go anyways. If you're just CSing it's often useful to just stand still so the axe just launches to a close by spot. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:24 spinesheath wrote: Protip: Adjust your build. Stacking PDs might not be the way to play Draven. Protip: Guide the axe to the side, or in whatever direction you need to go anyways. Adjust how? And situations change and if you need to go in a different direction your dps becomes shit. Not to mention that the dmg is shit in the first place, like in order for his Qs to deal more bonus dmg than Graves QR he needs to auto like what, 10 times? And this is without taking into account that graves QR is AoE. Or the better steroid. Or blind. Or leap. Also I guess it could be just me, but I've went from 1.4k elo to 1.22k elo by playing only Draven today | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:38 ArC_man wrote: You can watch many live Asian matches on the GarenaTW channel (but usually it's of lesser Asian teams or TPA stomping these lesser Asian teams) http://www.twitch.tv/garenatw Their youtube channels have many saved vods as well TPA's youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/TaipeiAssassins/ GarenaTW's youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/GarenaTaiwan/ Personally I think TPA is the best team in the world, I honestly don't see any weakness in their current team. I think Joe Miller casted these games, I think its from Go4lol asia. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On June 13 2012 02:55 zulu_nation8 wrote: Best runes on shyv are all AD. She's only hard to gank with if you don't know how to gank. She's not that tanky later since her only tank skill is her ult passive but you need to be continuously autoattacking to maximize damage. She's very strong 1v1 and a very fast jungler thus you can force a lot of 2v2, 3v3 situations early to your advantage. No idea what you guys are talking about with stuff like "upswing in midlane warding." She's a much better jungler than warwick you guys are delusional. Whether or not you "know how to gank" is largely irrelevant, at a basic mechanical level Mundo/Nautilus/Nocturne are better at it than Shyvana. No one is arguing Shyvana can't gank, simply that she's not as effective as most of her peers. My basic point is there are reasons we didn't see much of Shyvana during the tournament. Wards around midlane cutting off invasions and revealing intentions, junglers who can both clear quickly and gank, allies clearing wraiths/wolves/golems when the jungler is indisposed, all of these things have become commonplace and all of them cut into what made Shyvana popular in the first place. The trends which made Shyvana popular have shifted away. This isn't to say she's a terrible jungler, just that her rarity at MLG was not random. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:49 Shikyo wrote: Adjust how? And situations change and if you need to go in a different direction your dps becomes shit. Agreed. He's not reliable. Not to mention that the dmg is shit in the first place, like in order for his Qs to deal more bonus dmg than Graves QR he needs to auto like what, 10 times? And this is without taking into account that graves QR is AoE. Or the better steroid. Or blind. Or leap. Actually at level 1 the number of Qs to beat a 2 hit buck shot is... 2. Would be 3 but Draven passive. Late game Draven's Qs will outdamage Graves Q easy peasy. Draven R is less reliable than Graves R but they can do similar damage. Still, Graves will always be more reliable, have more burst, and have a blind over Draven. Also I guess it could be just me, but I've went from 1.4k elo to 1.22k elo by playing only Draven today I'm sure it's not just you. He has pretty glaring weaknesses and he's hard to play to boot. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:49 Shikyo wrote: Adjust how? And situations change and if you need to go in a different direction your dps becomes shit. Not to mention that the dmg is shit in the first place, like in order for his Qs to deal more bonus dmg than Graves QR he needs to auto like what, 10 times? And this is without taking into account that graves QR is AoE. Or the better steroid. Or blind. Or leap. Also I guess it could be just me, but I've went from 1.4k elo to 1.22k elo by playing only Draven today His Q's don't even matter that much to be honest. If you catch even one in the middle of a team fight you're pretty much set. His E is a very good non-ulti disrupt, probably the best for any ad carry actually, W is a very good refreshable mini steroid, and utli I would just throw in the middle of the fight for a hell of a lot more damage. Maybe you're paying attention to the axes too much? I dunno. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
If he was strong enough that people would do really well with him right now, he'd be OP in 3 days. And after the nerf he'd be OP in another 5 days. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 13 2012 04:16 spinesheath wrote: He's hard to play. Just suck it up and accept that you're not playing him as well as he can be played. You can't just say a hard to play champ sucks when he's just been out for a week. If he was strong enough that people would do really well with him right now, he'd be OP in 3 days. And after the nerf he'd be OP in another 5 days. Um... So can you tell me what's good about him then instead of telling me I'm bad? | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On June 13 2012 04:29 Shikyo wrote: Um... So can you tell me what's good about him then instead of telling me I'm bad? I just said that he's likely not figured out yet. How would I know? Also I didn't say you're bad, I said everyone's bad with Draven right now. | ||
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Zenithal
United States142 Posts
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