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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On July 03 2012 18:38 PrinceXizor wrote: well the only things that teams try to stand their ground for are dragon and baron. teams will even cede inhibs. And blue buff, its funny as hell when purple team cedes dragon then their mid goes Leeroy Jenkins the moment blue team steps up that ramp to the golem. | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On July 03 2012 19:08 Ryuu314 wrote: dat akali buff O_O Yeah, that made me cringe... I hate Akali so much  Her kit is just abusive by its purest definition despite her energy limitations.On July 03 2012 17:42 CaffeineFree-_- wrote: Is it humanly possible to win mid TF vs malphite lol? Good thing about TF is that even when you lose lane, you can snowball side lanes. And, I dunno about beating Malphite in lane. He's pretty hard to solo kill as any AP carry. | ||
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 03 2012 19:14 GoSuChicken wrote: i looove the akali buff, but wtf what is riot doing to orianna? if you keep her like that you just HAVE to level w and that means shes manahungry as hell. I hate those changes -.- weren't most oriana players levelign W anyways? Oriana was always mana hungry; she was never not mana hungry. If the QoL changes go through, which they should since they were in patch preview, she's probably still going to be in a good place. Oriana wasn't really even a bad champ prior to this patch, just underplayed. I'm just waiting for Riot to slowly overbuff Xerath then laugh when he becomes fotm and everyone's wondering where the fuck he came from. | ||
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
On July 03 2012 19:16 Ryuu314 wrote: weren't most oriana players levelign W anyways? Oriana was always mana hungry; she was never not mana hungry. If the QoL changes go through, which they should since they were in patch preview, she's probably still going to be in a good place. Oriana wasn't really even a bad champ prior to this patch, just underplayed. I'm just waiting for Riot to slowly overbuff Xerath then laugh when he becomes fotm and everyone's wondering where the fuck he came from. mhm I always leveld Q because of the global cd making it hard to land w in lane. And the q has flat manacosts which makes you be able to go double dorans into dcap, which i prefer to RoA. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On July 03 2012 19:16 Ryuu314 wrote: I'm just waiting for Riot to slowly overbuff FTFY. Viktor more terrifying than Xerath imo. That ult just melts people wtf. And W such a good area control tool too. Re Itemisation in LoL: New items are going to need to have good reasons to buy them as well as expand breadth of gameplay. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 03 2012 18:49 Morfildur wrote: From what i understand, "per level" usually means "after the first level", so his health is still quite high but not that high. He still looks very strong, similar to darius though with slightly lower base armor. The skill they will nerf first after release will be his E. On level 5 20% of the targets maximum life as magic damage... uhm... yeah... Vayne is getting jealous about that... Then Vayne is like, lol magic damage, I do True Damage, so she isnt really jealous. I think he'll be a pretty snowbally hero personally | ||
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Lmui
Canada6215 Posts
On July 03 2012 19:16 Ryuu314 wrote: weren't most oriana players levelign W anyways? Oriana was always mana hungry; she was never not mana hungry. If the QoL changes go through, which they should since they were in patch preview, she's probably still going to be in a good place. Oriana wasn't really even a bad champ prior to this patch, just underplayed. I'm just waiting for Riot to slowly overbuff Xerath then laugh when he becomes fotm and everyone's wondering where the fuck he came from. With the last change to orianna (50 flat mana cost on Q), it was viable to level Q to try and dominate lane at the expense of teamfight AoE damage. The patch preview mentioned a cd reduction on her Q but I guess that didn't make it into the patch. The other thing that you'd have to see is the global cooldown change on orianna. Changing her responsiveness might do more than the numbers would tell. Also, her passive was apparently changed but there's no mention of it in the patch notes. It's possible that not everything made it into the patch/preview but i'll be hopeful that they left stuff out. Overall though, a lategame buff, her W+R is going to wreck teams that group even harder than it did before, something that's pretty good. Her sustained damage through using Q is going to go down though which I'm not quite liking. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 03 2012 19:22 Lmui wrote: With the last change to orianna (50 flat mana cost on Q), it was viable to level Q to try and dominate lane at the expense of teamfight AoE damage. The patch preview mentioned a cd reduction on her Q but I guess that didn't make it into the patch. The other thing that you'd have to see is the global cooldown change on orianna. Changing her responsiveness might do more than the numbers would tell. Also, her passive was apparently changed but there's no mention of it in the patch notes. It's possible that not everything made it into the patch/preview but i'll be hopeful that they left stuff out. Overall though, a lategame buff, her W+R is going to wreck teams that group even harder than it did before, something that's pretty good. Her sustained damage through using Q is going to go down though which I'm not quite liking. honestly, I'd believe the patch preview more than the unofficial patch notes of the pbe server, but that's just me. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6215 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On July 03 2012 19:16 Ryuu314 wrote: weren't most oriana players levelign W anyways? Oriana was always mana hungry; she was never not mana hungry. If the QoL changes go through, which they should since they were in patch preview, she's probably still going to be in a good place. Oriana wasn't really even a bad champ prior to this patch, just underplayed. I'm just waiting for Riot to slowly overbuff Xerath then laugh when he becomes fotm and everyone's wondering where the fuck he came from. Idk, last night I was playing a bunch of Ori games, maxing Q. Didn't really have trouble too much trouble with mana. I will probably start maxing W now depending on how much they buff the CD on Q. And nobody will start playing Xerath, he is no fun at all. On July 03 2012 19:20 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: FTFY. Viktor more terrifying than Xerath imo. That ult just melts people wtf. And W such a good area control tool too. Re Itemisation in LoL: New items are going to need to have good reasons to buy them as well as expand breadth of gameplay. SHHHHHH | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On July 03 2012 21:50 Chrispy wrote: I confess.. I find the Proving Grounds super fun and highly addictive. All the fun of dominion without having to worry about stupid cap points. Edit: Regarding Patch Notes Alistar - doesn't do anything...at all Gragas - nice little QoL buff. Not really needed with a defensive rune set up, but definitely nice for lane phase. Janna - that's quite the hefty nerf. She'll still be good just because her kit is so strong, but that's a significant hit. Lux - interesting buffs. Doubt it'll completely change how much she's played, but definitely nice little mana buffs. Naut - it's a start Orianna - they don't list the passive change or how much the CD on Q has changed. She's definitely gonna be OP now, the question is just how much Soraka - holy crap, I guess they're neutering the most picked supports. I predict a big(ger?) influx of very aggressive supports like blitz/leona Athene's - probably unneeded, but ok... Ionic - *shrug* QSS - decent nerf, but there needs to be some decision making for carries to make: more MR and shield from banshee's, or utility from QSS. I think it's a pretty good change. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I don't like the dredge line change for Nautilus, I bought LB 10 days ago on a smurf and was kinda shocked about distorsion huge cooldown at early levels, Dredge already felt very long before you had CDR, so now I'll feel pretty shoehorned into shurelya's or glacial and similar stuff rather than wit's or aegis even if I manage to get fed. Meh, really. Only being able to use it once in most teamfights is... :/ I don't feel that Sona's buff will change a lot of things, except maybe to charge a powerchord. Her mana issues always came from W for me, not Q. Same with Rammus: I'd rather have some defensive bonuses from DBC back rather than some mana. MF on the other hand is pretty nice, her E was barely leveled or used because of that. Lux's cost reduction is quite huge too. Janna's W cd nerf is the biggest of all imo, being able to have pretty much always a spell available was a big strength in later teamfights once you had some levels in each one and CDR. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
kennen range nerf is a godsend, oh thank heaven riot. maybe kennen will be beatable top lol jk he still has no mana costs, cc, and a free escape alistar nerfs are gonna hit his jungle really hard when he doesn't have blue. he can basically ONLY gank if he wants to gank. he'll go oom trying to clear camps in between ganks, so that's good. naut changes are good, ty riot lux buffs are pretty hefty. maybe lux is a counter to orianna or something and they felt guilty about making orianna OPrianna so they buffed lux? idk caitlyn's ult will soon be the only global if they keep extending it's range and decreasing everyone else's  ALL FOUR OF THE NEW SKINS ARE FUCKING AWESOME | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 03 2012 21:50 Chrispy wrote: I confess.. I find the Proving Grounds super fun and highly addictive. Proving Grounds is awesome fun and there's nothing to be ashamed about enjoying a plain ol 5v5 deathmatch. | ||
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koreasilver
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