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On June 30 2012 14:19 r.Evo wrote:
For the next first of April I'll beg to Neo that they can merge League/DotA forum into a "MOBARTS forum", make one joint GD and General Questions thread. Boy, that'd be the fun of my life. =S
Yeah, it'll snowball into a giant flamefest that'll eventually snowball into the closure of the forums. Let the flame wars begin.
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On June 30 2012 16:19 Lmui wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 15:51 QuakerOats wrote:On June 30 2012 14:50 UniversalSnip wrote:
im skeptical of that to say the least, trist gets 90% bonus as and phantom is still best on her, graves Q doesnt' benefit from attack speed and phantom is still right on him, etc, every ad carry has something that doesn't synergize with phantom and it's still the best combo with infinity edge there is Is this true? I thought I remember someone doing the math and IE+BT ended up being more DPS than IE+PD on Trist. Just ran the numbers. A level 18 Trist with 2x dorans, zerks, BT+IE does ~800 dps with her steroid up. With 2x dorans, zerks, IE+PD, she does ~900 dps. IE+PD is superior by about 11%. The BT route does provide more survivability through lifesteal but you lose mobility for it. You also get more consistent damage with BT+IE rather than IE+PD meaning you don't rely on crits. I'm not sure about draven since I can't find any resource on whether or not the bonus damage from Q can be affected by crit.
dravens Q bonus damage is NOT affected by crit, his non Q damage is multiplied, and then the Q bonus is added on top. only AD helps scale his Q, not AS (past 30% outside of bloodrush) or crit.
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On June 30 2012 16:19 Lmui wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 15:51 QuakerOats wrote:On June 30 2012 14:50 UniversalSnip wrote:
im skeptical of that to say the least, trist gets 90% bonus as and phantom is still best on her, graves Q doesnt' benefit from attack speed and phantom is still right on him, etc, every ad carry has something that doesn't synergize with phantom and it's still the best combo with infinity edge there is Is this true? I thought I remember someone doing the math and IE+BT ended up being more DPS than IE+PD on Trist. Just ran the numbers. A level 18 Trist with 2x dorans, zerks, BT+IE does ~800 dps with her steroid up. With 2x dorans, zerks, IE+PD, she does ~900 dps. IE+PD is superior by about 11%. The BT route does provide more survivability through lifesteal but you lose mobility for it. You also get more consistent damage with BT+IE rather than IE+PD meaning you don't rely on crits. I'm not sure about draven since I can't find any resource on whether or not the bonus damage from Q can be affected by crit.
LoL Wiki says that Spinning Axe enhanced attacks can critically strike but the bonus damage from the ability is always a percentage of your total AD.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Draven_the_Glorious_Executioner/Ability_Details
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Just got done with a game with AP galio mid, and man his teleport ganks and flash ults are RIDICULOUS. Nothing is sweeter than teleporting into a 5v2 and catching their entire team in their ult. Everyone dies, the end.
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On June 30 2012 16:56 DeltaBravo wrote:
Just got done with a game with AP galio mid, and man his teleport ganks and flash ults are RIDICULOUS. Nothing is sweeter than teleporting into a 5v2 and catching their entire team in their ult. Everyone dies, the end.
Wait for the day you flash ult into a team, catch all 5 and then realize their Udyr was in bear stance. T_T
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On June 30 2012 17:04 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 16:56 DeltaBravo wrote:
Just got done with a game with AP galio mid, and man his teleport ganks and flash ults are RIDICULOUS. Nothing is sweeter than teleporting into a 5v2 and catching their entire team in their ult. Everyone dies, the end. Wait for the day you flash ult into a team, catch all 5 and then realize their Udyr was in bear stance. T_T
Or they have an irelia. Or better yet when you flash ulti into them and somehow that was the moment the ashe picked to arrow to initate a fight and you just flash up into an ashe arrow right as it's launched and you die to focus fire before your ulti even goes off.
T_T galio why you so mean.
Or you can just pick galio to go top lane vs darius, max bulwark and just laugh and laugh and laugh that every time he hits you with an auto attck he heals you to full hp because of his passive.
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For Draven, with blood rush level 5 up, not factoring in his Q yet, IE+BT does 15-16% less damage than IE+PD
Assuming that you catch every axe and moving to catch the axe costs you 0 autoattack time and you throw a spinning axe every 2.5 seconds (assuming the moment you catch the axe, you throw it with no downtime.)
1 axe up: IE+BT does 11% less dps than IE+PD
2 axes up: IE+BT does 6% less dps than IE+PD
This is slightly inaccurate because I didn't factor in the quantized nature of autoattacks with draven's Q but regardless, the math is telling me that IE+PD does more damage than IE+BT and experience tells me that catching axes is easier if you move faster. Therefore I'm going to recommend that you go IE-> PD.
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After the patches, I can't get windowed mode to work properly on my dual monitor setup. It is always off-center. Does anyone have the same problem?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2kUyW.png)
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PD gives movement speed. He is talking about IE + BT vs IE + PD which dosent have much gold difference between the two.
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On June 30 2012 21:35 AUGcodon wrote:
PD gives movement speed. He is talking about IE + BT vs IE + PD which dosent have much gold difference between the two.
Oh my bad, I kept reading IE+PD / BT+PD -_-; too early
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On June 30 2012 16:43 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 14:19 r.Evo wrote:
For the next first of April I'll beg to Neo that they can merge League/DotA forum into a "MOBARTS forum", make one joint GD and General Questions thread. Boy, that'd be the fun of my life. =S Yeah, it'll snowball into a giant flamefest that'll eventually snowball into the closure of the forums. Let the flame wars begin.
It could be a valuable lesson on how we need to live together and tolerate one another!
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I'd just save a shiftwindow setting that put it where I wanted and use that.
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I used to think Mobility boots were shit, but now I buy them in most of my games. Gank everywhere, never be late for a teamfight.
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On June 30 2012 17:28 Lmui wrote:
For Draven, with blood rush level 5 up, not factoring in his Q yet, IE+BT does 15-16% less damage than IE+PD
Assuming that you catch every axe and moving to catch the axe costs you 0 autoattack time and you throw a spinning axe every 2.5 seconds (assuming the moment you catch the axe, you throw it with no downtime.)
1 axe up: IE+BT does 11% less dps than IE+PD
2 axes up: IE+BT does 6% less dps than IE+PD
This is slightly inaccurate because I didn't factor in the quantized nature of autoattacks with draven's Q but regardless, the math is telling me that IE+PD does more damage than IE+BT and experience tells me that catching axes is easier if you move faster. Therefore I'm going to recommend that you go IE-> PD.
I believe that you should compare IE Triforce vs IE PD.
Not to mention that aspd-based DPS is always less reliable than dmg-based DPS because you generally need to move around quite a bit which means you won't get to attack as much, this at least holds true for someone with 550 range. You also failed to take the damage increase for E and R into account.
Of course when you start juggling axes you will notice that you will actually miss autos with too much aspd or you will miss some axes.
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not sure if you're off-center bug is the same one that you get if you click on something else while the loading screen is loading, but opening task manager and selecting maximize from the right click menu in the applications tab is probably the quickest fix for that, or like previously said switching back and forth from full screen and borderless once in game works as well.
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I like mobo for lane phase on certain junglers, but I'll usually sell them for mercs or tabi in mid-late.
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Easiest way to fix is to put the start bar to the left/right and then back bottom
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Man why is Orianna so underplayed? She's so much fun and good.
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